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#2679796 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on Today, 07:30 AM

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a 'cap' on the max amount (thought it was a % based on the hi end of the cap) you can offer a player?

 

Yeah it's 20 % so if the NHLPA uses their own money to pay up, the maximum aav would be 14,6 million aav. So at some point the money is going to be equal  I'm fully expecting Buffalo to not bow out before that with Toronto I'm not so sure., My "personal" max would be whatever he is worth to the franchise. I.e. go max and load it up with bonuses for him and family :)




#2679779 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on Today, 02:49 AM

I would love Shattenkrik asd much as everyone in a Winged jersey but the truth is this: The guy will be an UFA after this year, so unlike he agrees to sign an extension with the Wings my offer for sure wouldn't include Larkin or Mantha. In my mind St. Louis would be dumb to trade him, Pietrangelo and him are the backbone of their defense and with Schwarz, Tarasenko plus Backes (if he returns), their top 6 should be set for years to come.

 

No, to Justin Schulz he doesn't help our top 4 situation at all. Keep in mind he won't have Crosby, Kessel or Letang running the PP here so trusting hm to be the guy seems like a lot (i.e. his play in Edmonton).

 

I know people will hate me for that but I'm glad, Yandle signed an extension not that he isn't a good defender but I think he wouldn't have helped the Wings at all because this team needs a steady defenseman who can also provide some offense at the right time. Hamonic would have been awesome but he wants to play in western Canada. If the rumors are true and Winnipeg doesn't want to pay Trouba then Holland has to be all over this, Michigan kid who's limit is the sky.

 

Larkin, Trouba, Mantha, Danny D., (if we see the first half goaltending) even Mrazek would be a solid core to build for the future.

 

btw. I still don't understand the downplaying of Goose, everyone knew what he was but since he signed his extension a lot of people started to expect too much out of him. There is nothing wrong with being a solid top 6 sniper, yeah he needs to bulk up (go train with  Gary R. or Dwayne Johnson) but let me tell you this: if the Wings had someone with size who can create room for him or Tatar, they would score more or at least be more dangerous. So why I'm happy with the development of both guys I would easily trade of them because they are the Wings best bet to land something this team needs while not giving up the future, of course it needs to be a package.

 

For a signed Shatty: Goose/Tatar + one of AA/Svech or every defenseman not named Danny D.  + 2nd 2017




#2679747 Lesser FA players.

Posted by frankgrimes on Yesterday, 08:36 PM

Give me Matt Martin and Luke Schenn 2 guys who will hit everything that moves all the time both shouldn't cost much.


#2679333 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 June 2016 - 08:03 AM



Been pondering the Stamkos situation. We would obviously love to have him and have the money stashed away if he can be swayed now.
With that said, I think it's highly unlikely that he'll join our team. Trying to see it from his perspective, what's most important? In rank, I believe:
 
*Money
*A chance to win the cup
*Acknowledgement from teammates, coaches and the fans
*A future legacy
 
Based on the teams that are actively going for him, we rank mid or low on these selling points. I see Tampa and Toronto clearly in the lead. It would have to take very special circumstances to sign him.
 
I am betting he will re-sign with Tampa.


Exactly that's why paying a premium (Chychrun), instead of one of AA or Svech (a position of strange), could turn out to be a huge mistake.

I think the most important thing is obviously money and every team that wants a realistic chance at him will have to go 11 plus.

I think from all the teams competing for his services Buffalo is offering the biggest chance to become a juggernaut in the future, Eichel, RoR and Ristolainen are already there.. Toronto has some pieces falling in place and the best coach in hockey but they also have tremendous pressure and media scrutiny.

The Wings can offer a guaranteed number 1 center spot and the ability to become the next captain...So the sales job from Holland and company needs to be a huge one.

With that being said maybe there is one team nobody thinks of that will ****** him.


#2679320 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 June 2016 - 01:57 AM

Told you ladies he might do this in the offseason thread a few hours prior. Kenny can still play. This is an excellent trade that opens up for all sorts of possible future trades.
It nags me though that we could have had Chychrun at pick #16. Guess you can't get everything in life.
 
Still, it's bigtime to loose that 6.5 million burden.

Well Arizona would have been with Svech or whatever his name is or AA too...both positions than wings are better at than at defense. This trades evaluation will depend on 2 things;

1. Can the Wings convince Stamkos to come here? Yes, the cap space is there but others can offer equal money and th ability to play with Eichel. This reminds me too much of the Suter Parise situation. Although I think Toronto would be the wrong choice for him.

2. Chychrun's development. A physical beast being compared to Scott Stevens falls into the Wings lap and they trade him. Did it ever occur to people that that is a reason, why the Coyotes where so eager to get this guy? The kid the Wings drafted is yet again undersized (wouldn't be a problem if this was a heavy team but it isn't), and known for questionable defensive abilities .. So I just hope Hakan saw something in him..because frankly most experts didn't.

A lot of people seem to think Stammer is a given which is far from the truth and if not him, then what? There is no other number 1 center available. Cap space is great if a team can use to get the best possible player otherwise use less. Back in the days I would've said oh great no bring in Stammer...but after getting passed over by Suter, Parise, Niskanen and with an unknown future Stammer to Detroit is far from a given...and I shudder at the thought of signing Eriksson, Vanek or anyone of that "caliber"


#2679197 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 24 June 2016 - 08:53 PM

Agreed. Stamkos' likely next teams, in order:

1. Toronto
2. TB
3. Buffalo
4. Detroit

If what Dreger is true it's more like

1. Buffalo willing to go 12 aav
2. Toronto
3. Tampa Bay but the captain needs to up his offer
4. Wings and everyone else who is interested

But hey gotta pass on a much needed gift in order to draft another undersized pick no one ever heard of.


#2678778 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 23 June 2016 - 10:46 PM

I find it funny how every year people are falling for the same media games. What is MB supposed to say other than he isn't shopping Subban but he would be dumb not to listen at offers if Edmonton offers Hall, Nurse and their 4 pick you gotta listen.

The only real story line is where does stammer sign other than that ..Even the top 3 in the draft are set.


#2678580 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by frankgrimes on 22 June 2016 - 04:54 AM

where do you project him ?

From what I've read a lock to go top 3


#2678277 Hawks trade Teravainen and Bickell to Carolina

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 June 2016 - 03:56 PM

Sounds like Blackhawks got there Taravainen replacement in Nick Schmaltz. Kid from North Dakota who can play.

 

They always seem to find players nobody has ever heard of and yet they take of :(




#2678276 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 June 2016 - 03:46 PM

No seriously though the point of Toronto. I know a lot of Toronto fans that live in the area here and I haven't met one that's overly optimistic about their future but here we have Red Wings fans speaking on their behalf talking about how they'll be a cup contender in a few years.
 
The grass is greener on the other side I guess. Funny how when Babcock was here he was an issue. But not that he's there, Toronto is going to be amazing. 

Re-read the posts? Most people agreed that Babs did a phenomenal job by getting the Wings into the playoffs. Just because some thought Blash would come in and be even better isn't Babs nor Blash's fault.

Nobody said they are going to be contenders but the Leafs are doing the right thing right now...Mathews, Rielly is a really good start and they could always use Marner or Nylander to get a top defender I.e. they are assets. Will it work? Who knows but having Mathews, Eichel and Pulju in the same conference is not something I'm looking forward too

Would I take their team over the current! Wings ? Of course I would same goes for Buffalo and of course Edmonton with McJesus and Nurse. The Oilers are 1! top pairing guy away from taking of and as soon as that happens it won't be pretty for the rest of the league, that's for sure.




#2678222 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 June 2016 - 09:33 AM

All this speculation is rather pointless. If Holland knows for sure that Stamkos has no interest (no matter the pricetag), in becoming a Red Wing then eating the caphit for one year isn't the end of the world. As great as Ladd, Looch, Backes and Yandle can be they aren't worth anything close to Stammer. If the price for moving the contract is anything more than one of Jurco/Pulkinnen + Second + Pasha then Holland is absolutely right to not do it and eat the cap.

 

Also it's funny that everyone is so focused on the usual suspects Florida/Arizona and Carolina yet Ottawa has an owner who looks to cut costs at every possible way so I'd try to work out a deal with them. Melynk could claim he spent to the cap yet he won't have to actually pay to the cap, sounds like a win-win for me. Also don't forget Pasha has to agree to a move because he has an NTC in his contract but I'm sure he would.

 

I think people are making way too big of a deal out of this. I've been critisized Holland for a lot of things and I believe rightfully so because this team has driven further and further away from the big goal but he is absolutely right to take a stance against getting bent over a 1 year contract in a NON cup contention year. Also I shudder at the notion of making Larkin the number 1 center, the guy isn't ready for it yet, period. I'd rather see him develop at his insane pace but not forcing things, like Smith stated no Stamkos means no number 1 center for the Wings next year, simple as that. Z with his demolished back shouldn't and can't be counted on to carry the load any longer lower his icetime and use him as a great third line center with an ATOI ~ 15 mins.

 

Also I find it funny, how much drama the media outlets are trying to create for the draft. Everyone knows the top 3 are basically set and not a whole lot will change.




#2678142 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 18 June 2016 - 03:19 PM

People think Stamkos might not go to Toronto because Babcock said he wasn't interested in big pieces.

Yet.

He could be bulls***ting though so.

 

Whenever did Babs say something like that?

 

Also that's not Babcock's decision it falls on the shoulders of that Friisdahl guy, MLSE brought in last month.




#2678132 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by frankgrimes on 18 June 2016 - 02:51 PM

So basically: Pasha wanted a five year contract, got a 3 year with the option to go home before the 16/17 season and that's exactly what he's doing right now.

 

People shouldn't be surprised that Holland is taking a hard stance through the media, can't just say please take the contract. Of course 7,5 million are a lot of money but the fact is it's only for one year and it's not a cup or bust year for the Wings. Glad he mentioned, that he won't give up a high draft pick or one of the top 2 talents (Larkin, Mantha).




#2677845 Red Wings re-sign Riley Sheahan: 2-years, $4.15m

Posted by frankgrimes on 15 June 2016 - 11:27 PM

So happy for Tinky Winky, he is a fine player and deserves this. As always there is more to hockey than just box score watching.


#2677788 Gordie Howe has passed away. 1928-2016.

Posted by frankgrimes on 15 June 2016 - 03:58 PM

On topic I think the Penguins could have held their parade on another day.