I would like to see Kenny work that Old Holland Magic and make a couple sneaky-shrewd moves that pay off in a major way and, in turn, make him look like a total genius.
I like Alex Chiasson, who could be had for peanuts and/or lint.
I like Alex Semin, who could be had for Andersson and [insert players who make us wish that amnesty buyouts were still a thing, e.g. Weiss, Kindl, Ericsson].
I like Dustin Byfuglien, who would be the best (or an extremely close second-best) defenseman on this Wings team and could be acquired for substantially less than his true trade value. (The catch being that he has only a year left on his contract and that he will most definitely Get Paid next summer. Would we be able to pay him? Hard to say. Would it be worth it? Also hard to say.)
I like Mike Green, who could be had for only money. (I think Byfuglien is the better high-scoring, right-shooting, smooth-skating, 30-year-old American defenseman who "can't play defense and sucks." But if he's going to cost us a really good asset - say, Jurco or Pulkkinen - and then demand $7.5M x 6 years...Mike Green might be the better option. Unless Mike Green demands $6.5M x 5 years, in which case...well, there are plenty of other defensemen I like.)
I like a lot of players. I don't buy this "Well, in terms of trades, Phaneuf is pretty much the only realistic option, and we're not interested in him, so I guess we're standing pat" mentality. There are always deals out there. The Sharks got Brent Burns and a second-round pick for Devon Setoguchi, Charlie Coyle, and a first-round pick. Don't tell me "There's no hockey store" or "It takes two to dance." (And don't tell me it's all about getting more out of our young players when Cleary is still in the picture.)
Imagine a line of Tatar-Datsyuk-Semin. Imagine DeKeyser paired with Byfuglien and Kronwall paired with Quincey or Marchenko.
This team is a couple additions away from being really, really good.
I like that in theory, but what I think would end up happening is we would have 2 very one dimensional winners. The offensive winner would be someone who scores a ton but suck defensively, and the defensive winner could end up being a stay at home d-man who scores 6 points a year.
They should continue to do it the way they do it, but with more emphasis on the defensive side of things.
Anyone else notice that Canadian teams pretty much swept the awards. Hmmm..... COUGHriggedCOUGH
Karlsson winning the Norris again is kind of the death knell for that award for me. Don't get me wrong, he's a great player but even Sens fans acknowledge that he had a bad start to the year.
The award is allegedly "given to the defenseman who demonstrates throughout the season the greatest all-round ability in the position." By giving it to Karlsson this season in spite of his bad Sep-Dec they've removed both the "all-round" part and now the "throughout the season" portion as well.
If they were giving the award for best two-thirds of a season then it should be Giordano's. Apparently hockey writers have about as long of memory as the younger members at hfboards. If you've played well in the last month then you're the greatest of all time.
I'm actually glad to hear (or read) that other people feel this way too. It was more exciting, the players were better, the teams were better. Its kind of amazing to me that the Stanley Cup final ratings are so high these past few years considering, as a hockey obsessed maniac myself, I could care less who was in it or who won these past few years. I wonder if its because the last 5 years of finals have been played in mostly big cities (Chicago, Philly, NY/NJ, Boston and LA).
I think a lot of people don't realize how different the game is. I really miss the way hockey was played back then.
As for the ratings, I'm pretty sure you've touched on a large part of it. It wouldn't surprise me to see that future SC finals will be played in predetermined arenas, a la the NFL. Everything seems to be geared toward ratings and growing the fan base.
But since this is a thread about Phaneuf...he sucks.
I'm a huge fan of both Datsyuk and Zetterberg, I think they're both world class players and were two of the best in the business in their prime. In saying that, I'm not sure if either should have their numbers retired. If they do, awesome, if they don't, it's definitely not a knock on either's career. I however agree 100% with what kliq has been saying in this entire debate. kickazz, you seem to repeating the same stance over and over again, most of which I disagree with. I'm not saying either opinion is correct but I do agree with kliq's arguments. We shall see how it all plays out... Anyway, I'm drunk. Can't wait for the draft / training camp... I miss hockey... Go Wings!
Awesome. Why don't you explain your definition of a 4th liner to Stan Bowman or Steve Yzerman? You know, the GMs of the two teams that played for the Stanley Cup. I'm sure they'd love to hear your opinion. That's if you can catch them when they're not busy making hemp bracelets and smoking grass. Peace man. Groovy peace.
Are you insinuating that Bowman and Yzerman do no currently know the definition of a fourth liner? There are no hard and fast rules regarding fourth liners, let alone third, second, and first liners. Some have a use for them, some do not. If every teams lines were the same, nobody would win and nobody would lose. Some teams could put to use a gritty fourth line, and some teams have an absolute need for one. Some teams don't need one at all. We have four lines getting pushed around by little fellas that got stuffed into lockers in high school, so I think we need one.
Peluso is definitely garbage, but he's getting paid garbage. Garbage also has it's place, though. A tough fourth liner that gets 6 or 7 minutes a night, with other guys in the same role, has only one objective...physical intimidation. That's something we don't have for 30 seconds. I'd be happy with this signing.
Good signing for Winnipeg. He isn't going to play every single game, but he doesn't seem like a liability, from what I've seen. Not an offensive threat by any stretch of the imagination, but he plays his role well.
Gee, maybe one of these teams will make it out of the first round next year.
Right, because we've been consistent at making it out of the first round recently...
Yes, he's so valuable that he managed to land a contract that pays him less than Joakim freaking Andersson lmao
So, he's cheaper, and does two things well. Andersson is more expensive and does zero things well.
9 points in 3 years played in 49 games this year... Yeah great guy to have. I cannot believe he didn't get more.
I don't need my 4th liners scoring points. I want my top two lines scoring points. I've won the Stanley Cup in every hockey video game I ever owned, and all those teams had a goon on the 4th line that didn't score a lot. In fact, on NHL 2000, I had a season with the Wings where I traded for Scott Parker on my 4th line and he put up over 500PIM and didn't score 5 goals. I had another one with Twist ....................well, you get the idea.