I love Jimmy, don't get me wrong and he is our #1 goalie. I'm not on the bandwagon of getting rid of him. However, you have to agree Mrazek has only had limited NHL experience and is doing pretty damn well as our #1 right now. We haven't had a goalie like that coming up through our draft system since I don't know when. I only see him getting better. Yes, he'll have his ups and downs just like any goalie. However, remember, he's a rookie that is our #1 right now, and without these injuries to Monster and Jimmy, would still be playing in the AHL.
Let's be frank, just about every rookie (save for the very bad ones) comes up to the NHL and looks like the next Roy. That is until the league figures them out. Then all of the sudden those .939 1.34 back to back seasons (playing only 18 games or so) dip down drastically to something like ...885. Back to the AHL they go. Maybe a couple of them will be seen in the NHL a couple of years from now as a back up. Or they just fade away, and those rookie seasons get chalked up as flukes.
Mrazek is lumped in with these very same rookies until he's proven. I'm not too quick to jump on a boat that I've seen way too many times...that just ends up sinking. And for that reason, there's no reason to shorten Howards leash...on an already shortened leash by the fans.
Is Mrazek Talented? He looks like it. But he's certainly not ready to take over Jimmy's job.
@toby91: Every goalie goes through rough patches. Even the top 5 that people always drool over. That's why you look at the big picture. Not a hand full of games here and there that can be cherry picked to make a case that the goalie is just plain average (see, I have proof! he went on a stretch of 8 games where he averaged .905).
The man may not have elite stretches as good as the top 5. But when he has his low points, he still performs on par, with you average goalie. I rarely see Howard get lit up for more than 4. And that's rare. It's 1-2, with an occasional 3. 4 being a bad game. He's let in more than 4 throughout his career, but I'm sure there's maybe a dozen of them. He just plods along with 1-2/occasional 3 goals against for the majority of career. To me, his consistency is constantly understated. Never elite. But never really bad. And people talk as if this is a bad thing.
I really don't understand the flak Howard gets, or the short, SHORT, leash he's been given.
For some reason, he's been labeled an barely average- average goalie. It almost seems like the fans, or just hockey fans in general, are hypocritical about the guy.
Barely average-average= a .900-.910. .915 on a good year? Maybe 60% at the shootout?
If that's what we expect from Howard, then last season he shouldn't have really been crucified. He played within his talent level, accord to most. You see, to me, Barely average- average goalies do not post .920+ the majority of their career (so far). To me, until his average season last season, an average goalie doesn't post around 75% in the shootout, consistently. To me, that's high end of above average goal tending. Or has he just been overachieving his whole career? And don't tell be it's because of the stout defense we put out on that ice. /sarcasm
Oh, but what about this year's shootout numbers! Statistical anomalies happen. You just don't go from one of the better shootout goalies, to the worst, without a reason. I'm sure it will be fixed.
Mrazek has talent. But he's far from ready. He has had the benefit of an offensive burst from the Wings right now. Sure it's a team game. But had it been Howard it net letting in those very same goals? The man would be on GOAT status, if he isn't there already.
Mrazek can't catch a puck. He can't swallow a puck. Sure Jimmy's rebound control was bad, but not this bad. It was mostly Jimmy's kick saves (as still kind of there) that were the problem. Never a glove issue, or swallowing the puck...to this degree.
I feel like Mrazek supporters are on a high right now because "he's winning". But once there's a stretch where he needs to squeeze points from 5-6 1 goal games in a row. I know Jimmy can do it. Mrazek? I'm not so sure. And as excited as some people are, and as I am, I'm not ready to hand over the reigns to the kid until he's 100% better than Jimmy. And Jimmy is a realllly good goal tender. It won't be an easy take over, no matter how we try to conjure up a scenario.
Would any bad team be willing to trade a top pick for those guys? Doubtful. Also, the bad teams aren't Cup contenders, so Pavel and Hank would not likely want to go to those places.
The mid level or Cup contending teams don't have high draft picks, so what's the point?
Holland and company can make good draft picks, problem is, we don't get high enough picks to draft a Tavares or Stamkos. That's what this franchise really needs for the future. And as I stated above, it's unlikely for multiple reasons that we'd get picks that high.
We're stuck with hoping that Nyquist or Tatar turn into Datsyuk and Zetterberg type players.