Agreed. I was going to say something like this since the Norris has basically become for the defenseman with the most points..
Personally I think a purely offensive defenseman should be in the same category as some other point producers. That would greatly improve the Norris and actually make sure that guys who shouldn't even be in the conversation for the trophy won't take it away from much more deserving players . Or if that's not possible just split it into the best overall defender and the one with the most points that way everyone knows which award is the more important one for a ..defender.
I mean not even nominating Weber, Suter and Keith ? Too bad Giordano for hurt guy would have won otherwise.
The best example is how good Phaneuf was when he first entered the league, this guy was heralded as a young Scott Stevens he was that good of an open hitter. I don't need the usual suspects flower power Greenpeace folks to know what I'm expecting from hockey and what I don't expect..sissy hockey, gimmicks such as 7 outdoor games , Rogers instead of Bell, less hitting hip checks, almost non exciting ufa lists...are for sure not things that I associate with hockey neither are showboaters and other questionable grow the game crap.
Anyhow Phaneuf will get dealt and I think he benefit tremendously from it...Toronto is just too tough of a market for most athletes especially if one has the burden of the C
I think we can all agree on this finally: hockey in the 90s and pre 2005 was just so much better and more exciting it's not even close. But as long as the stupid BOG doesn't act or finally getting changed to guys like Mr. I, Pegula...we won't see an improvement.
First the mantha and 1st rounder nonsense and now at the end of hockeycentral damian cox mentioned the redwings when they mentioned a few teams that could draft Ilya samsonov
Seriously? Think everyone knows detroit needs defensemen and not a Russian goalie when they got petr mrazek emerging ... Guys always saying bulls***
It's Damian Cox so
Personally I think the Wings should look at the option of trading down for Werensky, big hulking defenseman and in my mind the second best one in the draft after Hanifin. http://www.sbncolleg...l-draft-profile guy is exactly what the doctor ordered
Plus he is a local boy so that adds some extra plus
I just don't get it, if the NHL(PA) and all others do hate the shootout so much either get rid of it or if for whatever reason they don't want to do that let it be the way it always was and hopefully will always be.
This 3:3 is just turning this thing into another gimmick,
like we've needed more gimmicks in a our game, which is more and more becoming something it shouldn't be.
Chicago is not going to trade Seabrook because that guy is a huge reason why Keith can do what he does all the time, jump in on the offense and score. When I'm thinking of Keith, Seabrook I'm thinking of a marginal lesser top pairing than what Weber/Suter were a few years ago.
Hawks will move a lot of players before Seabrook I think after Toews, Kane and Keith he is by far their most valuable player.
A few years ago the Wings had the chance to offer-sheet Pietrangelo with a Weberlike contract (before the new CBA) but didn't something I still can't understand till today. Sure Franson will cash in and I can see teams like Dallas, Calgary lining up with trucks of money for his services, maybe even Boychuck like
Bickel makes 4 million per year for the next 4 years and was a healthy scratch..good fourth liner with third line upside but there are much better options available for the fourth line and especially cheaper ones
One if not currently the best 4 liner in the game what a bargain. Big touch, workhorse and will drop the gloves against anybody. Winnipeg is already a big team but Peluso adds some much needed protection, Backes and Reeves weren't running around as much after Peluso wanted to talk to them.
Guess it's safe to say Winnipeg, Blues are now having the toughest 4 lines in the league...good luck trying to run the stars against them.
Agreed frank. But and this does relate to them, if either one/both are moved for a top pair Dman we do need to go F. I still prefer to go F anyway. I would rather sign/trade for proven vets on the BL than to trust prospects. Kinda like pitching in baseball. You draft pitchers becasue there is a shortage of quality arms. You can always trade for hitters. In hockey goal scoring is a premium.
The problem is, soon this team will need both things so I'd rather go for preventing goals now and try to build a new defensive core around Danny D and then look at fixing the center-problem. The Wings can't afford to go into another Lidström situation when Pasha moves on.
Lol talk about overrating Larkin , there is no way he even touches the top 5 in this draft class: McDavid, Eichel, Hanifin, Marner, Strome, Crouse should be set. Maybe 7 but I think Werenski or maybe that Russian kid will own that position .
I don't care about what position he would be wings for him at 17 and now have to develop both guys Larkin and Mantha.
Mantha will be fine and make Mr. Players are cattles eat cow.
Man!! You people are super sensitive! Jesus! Toews and Kane just proved they're better than D and Z and you all get mad. You think I enjoy watching Chicago win again? NOPE. But you know what? It's the truth. But Kane and Toews are supposed to better, they were higher picks for a reason. But even as Wings fan I'd take those two over D and Z any day of the week.
The thing is you are comparing a prime Toews, Kane to the Z and Pasha from nowadays both in their mid 30s.
If you would have said that Toews is better than Z I'd agree but better than a prime Pasha ? I don't think so defensively they are even matched but in terms of also creating offense and making people go wow how did he do that against other nhl players ? It's Pasha.
Also look at the support core Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsen, Hossa and Sharp I mean that's a top pairing and tons of options for loading up the first line or even things out on the second line
Kane isn't even a center so it's tough to compare.
Currently Toews is for sure a top 3 player in the league but ranking him above a prime Pasha is false.