No seriously though the point of Toronto. I know a lot of Toronto fans that live in the area here and I haven't met one that's overly optimistic about their future but here we have Red Wings fans speaking on their behalf talking about how they'll be a cup contender in a few years.
The grass is greener on the other side I guess. Funny how when Babcock was here he was an issue. But not that he's there, Toronto is going to be amazing.
Re-read the posts? Most people agreed that Babs did a phenomenal job by getting the Wings into the playoffs. Just because some thought Blash would come in and be even better isn't Babs nor Blash's fault.
Nobody said they are going to be contenders but the Leafs are doing the right thing right now...Mathews, Rielly is a really good start and they could always use Marner or Nylander to get a top defender I.e. they are assets. Will it work? Who knows but having Mathews, Eichel and Pulju in the same conference is not something I'm looking forward too
Would I take their team over the current! Wings ? Of course I would same goes for Buffalo and of course Edmonton with McJesus and Nurse. The Oilers are 1! top pairing guy away from taking of and as soon as that happens it won't be pretty for the rest of the league, that's for sure.
All this speculation is rather pointless. If Holland knows for sure that Stamkos has no interest (no matter the pricetag), in becoming a Red Wing then eating the caphit for one year isn't the end of the world. As great as Ladd, Looch, Backes and Yandle can be they aren't worth anything close to Stammer. If the price for moving the contract is anything more than one of Jurco/Pulkinnen + Second + Pasha then Holland is absolutely right to not do it and eat the cap.
Also it's funny that everyone is so focused on the usual suspects Florida/Arizona and Carolina yet Ottawa has an owner who looks to cut costs at every possible way so I'd try to work out a deal with them. Melynk could claim he spent to the cap yet he won't have to actually pay to the cap, sounds like a win-win for me. Also don't forget Pasha has to agree to a move because he has an NTC in his contract but I'm sure he would.
I think people are making way too big of a deal out of this. I've been critisized Holland for a lot of things and I believe rightfully so because this team has driven further and further away from the big goal but he is absolutely right to take a stance against getting bent over a 1 year contract in a NON cup contention year. Also I shudder at the notion of making Larkin the number 1 center, the guy isn't ready for it yet, period. I'd rather see him develop at his insane pace but not forcing things, like Smith stated no Stamkos means no number 1 center for the Wings next year, simple as that. Z with his demolished back shouldn't and can't be counted on to carry the load any longer lower his icetime and use him as a great third line center with an ATOI ~ 15 mins.
Also I find it funny, how much drama the media outlets are trying to create for the draft. Everyone knows the top 3 are basically set and not a whole lot will change.
So basically: Pasha wanted a five year contract, got a 3 year with the option to go home before the 16/17 season and that's exactly what he's doing right now.
People shouldn't be surprised that Holland is taking a hard stance through the media, can't just say please take the contract. Of course 7,5 million are a lot of money but the fact is it's only for one year and it's not a cup or bust year for the Wings. Glad he mentioned, that he won't give up a high draft pick or one of the top 2 talents (Larkin, Mantha).
l agree we need blue line to get better but Stamkos is another tier than those 3
Can't believe what I'm reading here people would rather have a known lockerroom cancer (Radulov) and some good - but not Stammer good - players instead of an elite center not even in his prime yet? Yes, the Wings priority #1 needs to be the blueline at all costs but other than drafting into the top 10 or trading for Trouba there is nobody available so the options here are (sadly) limited.
BUT all Stamkos would cost is money, guys of his ilk usually don't make to UFA and people would pass on that opportunity? Seriously the Wings also need to replace an elite #1 center in Pasha because the truth is Z's top 6 center days are over and if Larkin takes a bit of a step back, the Wings would be without a number 1 center. So Stammer would make a lot of sense. The funny thing is, I don't even expect to sign here but taking the afore mentioned guys over him? Wow that's just insane.
Agreed. Except they'll be looking to get paid and even if that's the case Holland should pay them well.
But it seems like a pipe dream.
Well there is no salary cap on coaches so why not spend big on them. I don't know if Carlyle wants to be a benchboss again and Oates just hasn't the resumee so if they do well in their roles they'll might get another look.
Especially Randy could help out Blas a lot with his experience