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Would be happy with a point here, Blues are having two games in hand right now this is going to be a very tough one.

Granted and it is sad, I've never met Ilitch but let me tell you what kind of owner I think this guy is:

Ilitch is one of the only owners in this piss poor communism league, who stood up against the revenue-sharing, not happy with the lockout and guess he is the one, spending millions of his own money on the best available development coaches, over the top hotels and services (Wing Bird III anyone?!). Without the cap I'd bet my car Mr. I would spend whatever it takes to provide the team with near endless resources if it means another cup!

Ilitch is a competitive guy, he wants all his teams to do well and therefore will be spending. Having said that, there is no point in overpaying for average-players just for the sake of spending money, this would be just stupid.

So while everyone is entitled to his own opinion, I for one can't thank Mike enough for being the best owner in not only hockey but all of sports. An example of an owner playing it poor although filthy rich would be the guy who bought Manchester United (soccerclub), as his private toy. 

There are now 4 threads with basically the same content, wouldn't one doom/gloom thread be enough.

Who cares if the Wings are making the playoffs, if you can't compete win the big price there is no point in doing so.

All this whining about Holland standing pat and not selling the future, unbelievable. If I were Holland I'd have taken the easy road out last summer (- retiring with Lidas and moving up as president of hockey operations in the organization) and left my successor trying to fix a behind the pack team, going out as a GM legend! One at least has to love his will to fix it and leave (hopefully Stevie, Shero or Chiarelli) with a great roster to build from.

Develano has pissed away his chance to ever GM the Detroit Red Wings, with his stupid and insanely offending comments. This organization from top to bottom is and always was about being classy and you can't tell me Mr. I was happy with this comment. You try your best to threat players well and then someone of your own organization is throwing the players under the bus like nothing? Doesn't fly with me.

So of course people can critisize Holland all they want, but at least admire his will to fix things.

I did not expect the Wings to be buyers, but for sure sellers.

Filpulla is believed to command 5m per so why not trade him for a first? At that price it would be desastrous to  bring him back.

White is sitting more than playing, if not a second a third should have been possible.

I am glad Holland stood pat but these two guys should have been dealt today! Prices will never be that high again for Filpulla and this ladies and gentlemen is a lost first round pick.

I agree the time to unload Filpulla and White is going to be tomorrow! The prices will never be that high again and there is a good chance of getting a first and second for this duo back, at least Holland has to try it.

I might be one of the few who thought Cola was pretty good last night.

 

as for white, does anyone think we can get a 2nd rounder for a journeyman who is struggling right now?

I do believe, some desperate teams might be willing to give up a second for him, keep in mind Regehr returned two seconds in a deep draft and he is not 2 times as good as White, sure better but not by much. I have nothing against White, he for sure is a serviceable second pairing guy but honestly playing with Lidas made him better, than he really is/was (same goes for Kronwall).

Detroit Red Wings have traded their 6 round pick for Matt Kassian - April Fools - never happens this team doesn't need grit or enforcers...

Is Lindy Ruff an option for next year? I'm not panicking here and not trying to overreact but Babcock's been here for nine years. Is it time to move on and try something new? What about Ruff? We're bringing in a guy that is very familiar with the East where the Wings will be playing next year. What do you guys think?

0 Stanley Cups, forced firing by the higher ups of the Sabres so thanks but no.

Babcock is not the problem with this team, these are transition years so might as well give it time. Losing some and winning some in a row are exactly the attributes of average teams (only bad teams are worse), so give it time, be sellers and play the kids.

I am cautiously optimistic that Dan is going to make a good impact with the Wings.  Maybe not this season, but probably next season.  Still, at this point, its great to have a top prospect on the team. 

I think Smith and Dekeyser could be a very nice pairing for at least another decade. Really happy he is signed, way to go Dekeyser!

Lidström is even doing great things for this organization after retirement, just a walking legend. Loved the interview guy is coming off very smart and calm.

Man that sucks, I don't care if people like the guy or not but seeing someone getting lined up by a 99 mp/h blast isn't something I'll be ever cheering for. Had this kind of luck with a "professional boomerrang" when I was younger and even then the blood was coming out like nothing now imagine what a puck can do.

Also in Crosby's case such things could make his conussion return and really thats not something to laugh at. I don't like his attitude although he has gotten better over the years but his talentlevel is through the roof, so get well soon and yes even as a diehard Detroit Red Wings fan I feel wishing him well, is the right thing to do.

Frank, you and I have had our differences, but I agree with you.

 

The Wings playoff streak is nice, but I would rather see the Wings really compete every few years than just make the playoffs and die in the first or second round every year.  The problem is that Wings fans as a whole would hate to see them tank for 2-3 years just to rebuild.

My thoughts as well, the streak is nice and all but really it is just a number. I'd rather see this team in the hunt for highend UFAs and the cup again in the not so distant future, instead of making the playoffs and getting bounced in round one or not later than round two, thats just not RedWings Style.

Differences are part of discussion boards as long as both side respect each other no worries here ^^

Can't believe DeKeyser is getting blamed for taking his time, it is a huge decision so for sure he will go through all the offers pros and cons and when he is ready, he or maybe his agent are going to anounce it. GMs passed on this guy in the draft every time so let him enjoy his "revenge" a bit.

Andrew Walker ‏@fan960walker 6m

Breaking: #Flames GM Jay Feaster along with Hartley -enroute today to meet with highly sought after NCAA free agent Dan Dekeyser (West Mich)

 

I don't think Danny is stupid enough to sign with Calgary after what just happened lol

There are only two competitors which I really "fear" the Bolts because of Stevie Y and of course the Predators, having the chance to learn from Weber shouldn't be underestimated although I hate this guy.

The Wings can only build depth through the draft.  We don't draft high enough to get superstars reliably, so we still need to trade for our team to have any bite to it.

Exactly the reason, why some people (like me) would love to see this team being sellers at the tradedeadline.

The cap is an excuse.  We did fine under the cap up until the last two years.  2010 was derailed by injuries, but was still a good team.  Everything after that was just complacency.  

Sorry but I respectfully disagree, the decline started after the last cup run and it was obvious. Thanks to be cap the Wings couldn't keep their roster, not only would they have done so otherwhise Detroit would for sure have fixed the wholes and try again next year with an even better roster thanks but not, the cap destroyed that. In the end the Wings ended up with a worse team than before - i.e 2 round exit against the Sharks (first of two in a row) - so the cap is not only an excuse it is fact.

Looking back it really is unbelievable how much quality this team has lost over such a short amount of time, no other team had to deal with something like this and yet Babcock is doing a tr emendous job, by still keeping them somewhat in the hunt for a playoff spot. Some weeks ago (during the lockout) I did post how this roster would look like if the best owner in all of sports wouldn't be handicaped by a small little guy who knows nothing about hockey.

Do I blame Holland for standing pat too long? Yes, but since last year he is trying to improve this team, going hard after Suter and now Dan DeKeyser though in the end signing players is a two way street (offer/sign it).

That said I can't wait till this team will be loaded again and face the Penguins in the Stanley Cup Finals....with a different outcome this time!

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