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#2425357 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 July 2013 - 10:59 AM

I wish the series against the Chicago would be seen in a different way. The Wings joked away a 3:1 series lead the Hawks played their 4 worst games of the season once they've turned it on the Wings didn't even have a chance - this team is not close to Chicagos level. Statements like the above are exactly why I would have been fine with missing the playoffs, because at least it would have shown the higher ups that changes are needed standing pat will not get the job done, period. Other teams a re improving getting better each season and the Wings are - like it or not - falling behind which also means it will get harder and harder to attract players in free agency. Holland has done a lot of great things and nobody will take it away from him, but the guy does have problems with overpaying you can't expect UFAs to go to a non contender and take a discount anymore, the current Wings edition is not close to the cup, so the only option to get these guys is to take the risk and sometimes overpay. It may or may not turn out but at least itshows the league, that the Wings are still a force to recognize come draft, free agency and trade deadline...something, this team hasen't been for almost 5 years now. It would be even longer if Hossa didn't take a paycut in order to get his chance at the cup. No this is not an overreaction its the pure and sad reality. Like others mentioned, there is still time but the top guys are getting signed soon so waiting and then sign some meh players will not make this team better or bring back the WOW or ROAR effect this team used to own.

#2425203 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 03 July 2013 - 01:02 AM

How is it overreaction to expect the best franchise in all of hockey to get the players they want?

The top UFA players next year will want to cash in too...! So at some point the Wings have to show their financial power again.

Heck the Flyers don't have enough capspace but yet are finding ways to land UFAs.

Building from within is nice but you have to surround the only two remaining superstars with other pro ven guys and this not willing to overpay mantra will not get the job done.

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#2424666 Red Wings No Longer "Presented by Amway!"

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 July 2013 - 12:11 PM

The posts on this thread make me wonder about our education system. Cleary economics isn't being taught in school anymore. If the RW or any pro team doesn't have sponsorships, what happens? Ticket prices go up. Concession prices go up. Parking goes up. TV/cable prices go up. For the RW to spend 64.3 million on player salaries, they have to bring in twice that to cover all their expenses. GM's cost money, scouts cost money, the beer and hot dogs cost money, the JLA has utility bills to be paid. Plus all owners want to make a profit. or at worst, break even.
Now for those that dislike Amway, please get some idea of what you are talking about. You do realize that the De Vos family-co-founders of Amway own the Griffins right? The arena they pay in is owned by the Van Andel family, the other co-founders family. Not to mention the ties with the Whitecaps, the various lector hall/labs/residence halls on many of Michigan's college campuses. Plus the 5000 or so hourly workers at the Amway plant in Ada. The business model of Amway is no different than the franchise model of Little Caesars. Little Caesars doesn't make money off of selling pizzas. They make money off of selling the ingredients to the thousands of franchises around the world.

Sometimes it is better, to know a little bit about the people posting stuff. I have intended and also studied economics and I know the view of some economists I just don't agree with them, because no matter how you slice it, there is always a bigger picture one.

Amway is a pyramid scheme, period. Schemes like that are built to create a huge income for the founders/co-founders and early starters by milking all the people who join later. There is a reason why such schemes are often targeted by laws.

Also there is difference between having a team presented by .... or just paying to show up on the bill boards, megatron or wherever.

Naming the new arena after some famous persons just would show the rest of the league, how to do things the right way.

Tell me you wouldn't love a name like "The Geordie Howe Palace", "The Yzerman Dome", Lidströms Plaza or the "Mike Illitch Arena" I really think Mike deserves to get his name on it he has done so much for this team and the city of Detroit.

#2424608 Tim Thomas watch 2013

Posted by frankgrimes on 02 July 2013 - 08:08 AM

It's only a matter of time before Luongo snaps and says something crazy....he's a highly paid, competitive person who is being jerked around. The fuse has to be getting short.


Luongo really has handled this professionally and with a lot of class Gillis on the other hand comes off like a compete idiot. It's really amazing, how this guy can still have a job after that fiasco. Luongo has put up his house for sale and I highly doubt, that he is thrilled right now.


Gillis only has himself to blame for this.


As for Thomas when he is on his game, he is as dominant as a goaltender can be I also love the fact, that he doesn't give a crap about being mainstream (= political playball) for a bunch of idiots. I think, he he will definately end up in Philly or Edmonton, maybe Buffalo as a mentor for Enrot if they trade Miller.


Good luck Timmy

#2423635 2013 NHL Entry Draft Discussion

Posted by frankgrimes on 30 June 2013 - 11:55 AM

These guys aren't NA (minus Berglund)?


THAT was all him? Man I am surprised this guy might be even better than I first thought. Thanks for clearing that up great pickup for the jackets.

#2423484 Mike Smith re-signs with PHX. 6 yrs @ $5.6 mill year w/ NTC

Posted by frankgrimes on 29 June 2013 - 11:56 PM

Mike Smith at 5,7 per? WoW I must s ay, I am starting to like Howards deal more and more now prices are getting into a ridiculous area.

#2422069 Xbox One and PS4

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 June 2013 - 06:10 AM

Yeah MS basically scrapped everything that pissed everyone off, they announced it officially today. Would have thought they came to their senses before today but I guess not.


Doesn't change one thing for me:


1. don't play with your potential customers

2. the code for this crap is already in place, what or who should stop them from using it later and then what? No refunds!

3. kinect mandatory - yeah no thanks not letting MS spy out my behaviour, room, face, motions.

4. overpriced the PS 4 has more power and is 100 $$$$ cheaper so thats another huge no brainer


#2421786 Gary Bettman Stanley Cup Presentations

Posted by frankgrimes on 24 June 2013 - 03:08 PM

I always loved the idea of having a former legend from each of the two opponents handing out the cup.


If I were the captain I wouldn't even wait just take the cup and celebrate with the my organization  and fans.

#2421631 2013 Stanley Cup Finals - Boston Bruins vs. Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by frankgrimes on 23 June 2013 - 11:40 PM

No clue why Wings fans here are cheering for Chicago. 

Thats extremely strange isn't it? I don't like either team so I am cheering for both to lose but cheering for our most hated rival is just strange.

#2421288 Who would you rather have: Marchand or Shaw?

Posted by frankgrimes on 21 June 2013 - 10:28 PM

This is like deciding, if you want to jump from the right or left side into the sea. That said easily Shaw. Marchand is just acting tough, because the Bruins tough guys are having his back. This guy would play a very different style, if that wasn't the case. Shaw at least brings a physical element and is usable even without bodyguards.

#2421052 Flyers to buyout Briere

Posted by frankgrimes on 20 June 2013 - 01:27 PM

Nothing against him, but stay away from Briere please. Wings are going to get younger, bigger Briere doesn't match the new direction.


The Flyers are really handeling their players like crap at some point this will come back and haunt them.

#2420550 Datsyuk agrees to 3-year extension, $22.5m total, $7.5m/year

Posted by frankgrimes on 18 June 2013 - 11:09 AM

When all is said done, even though getting your number up in the JLA is extremely difficult #13 has to be there. He took one for the team, great cap hit and awesome length, thank you Pasha looking forward to 3 more years, what a great player.

#2420357 2013 Stanley Cup Finals - Boston Bruins vs. Chicago Blackhawks

Posted by frankgrimes on 17 June 2013 - 08:52 PM

Oh sure it's the ice conditions.  That's the problem with the Hawks. 

Everything is a probem if it goes against Edzo and his Hawks. I am very sure, the lights are too bright...

#2420208 2013 Offseason Thread

Posted by frankgrimes on 16 June 2013 - 07:38 PM

Isles got a 7 rounder for the marks to Mark Streit, may not seem much but at that pricetag the Wings should be able to get a 4 rounder for the rights to Filpulla. Better than lettimg them walk for nothing...

#2419890 Talking Tootoo

Posted by frankgrimes on 14 June 2013 - 04:07 PM

The guy just doesn't provide anything, he is not an enforcer just an agitator and not a very good hockeyplayer. Rather have a real enforcer and another fourth line guy, didn't like the signing back then and for sure not liking it one year after.