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#2525471 Alfie informs Wings he wants to return

Posted by frankgrimes on 24 June 2014 - 12:23 PM

The amount of negative opinions being spouted around here are incredible. We're not even in July yet and people are calling the season practically as good as dead and all because of what? Because we re-signed one of our best players from last season and we haven't addressed any of our issues yet. I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's fine, but when you're constantly thrashing out the same old line over and over, it gets a little tiresome. I know I know. KH sucks, Franzen is lazy, Howard will never be the elite goalie that we seem to somehow be entitled to just because we're the Red Wings, our D couldn't win the Calder Cup let alone the Stanley Cup, and we're got a forward group that's full of a bunch of washed up, old, warn out, injury prone veterans who can't even keep up with their own children on the ice anymore. 


We all know that success comes in cycles, and that good teams eventually get knocked down a peg a little and then have to build their way back up to the top again. This is precisely what is happening with the Wings right now, and with what we've seen last year that we've got good young kids in DeKeyser, Jurco, Sheahan, Tatar, Nyquist and Mrazek all ready to contribute, why should we trade a bunch of em away when we're not going to get full return on them and when really, right now, they provide our team with energy, skill and desire to win. Alfie coming back helps because he's got a bomb of a shot for the PP, he's still got good wheels, and provides another leadership presence in the room. Those of you who are bashing him, do you really think that our situation would improve if you shoved some unready kid onto top line minutes for the entire season? Don't you think that would actually make our team worse and then we might be 'mediocre'? 


Don't get me wrong, I'm not oblivious to the fact that this team has holes, which are primarily on D. But at least for heavens sakes, give management a chance to address them before you start calling for their heads. 


Don't have to read it if you don't like it, problem solved. I think it isn't so much negativity and more concerns - for all the right reasons - since 2009 this team hasn't even come close to anything near cup contention. Then Lidström retired and there was no plan B because we didn't get Suter.


The problem is, Alife and co. aren't what the Wings need longtermwise a young team at some point needs to build chemistry in order to go forward and know the in and outs of their defensive or offensive linemates. Look at the Kings they grew together and even then, Lombardi saw his team needed a broader leadership group brings in Richards, sees the team isn't scoring enough brings in Carter --> first cup for the kings, two years he sees a top 6 need brings in Gaborik ----> cup #2.


And what are the Wings -- a team that isn't even close the talent level of the powerhouses -- doing ? Sign one patchwork player after another instead of maybe risking the streak and build for the future. If the mojo around the league is really that the Wings aren't willing to overpay well then good luck getting any top ufa to sign here, it's not going to happen. Unless of course you are 34+. The needs for improvement have been evident since 2009 and that to me is enough time to make the neccessary move especially after losing an alltime top 4 defender. Armstrong has build a very good Blues team and yet he saw a chance/need and brought in Miller yeah it didn't work out but at least he tried. Thats what great GMs do they are willing to take risks, the Wings aren't a small market team and they shouldn't be run like one, our owner is willing to pay everything just to win with an almost blank cheque I simply expect better than bringing back Alfie and some patchwork signings come July 1. Holland once was regarded as the best GM in hockey time to prove it..


Also capspace is useless if you don't use it, is Niskanen worth 5,5 to 6 per ? Probably not but overpaying is part of UFA and trade deadline other GMs like Chiarelli, Lombardi and Bowman are ok with it, but Kenny seems to have a hard time adopting to this. Like some others I'm starting to believe  Lidström did not even make the team as a whole better he also made Holland better than he might be.


The leadership on this group is more than fine, when you have Z, Pasha, Kronwall that's enough to show the young kids how stuff gets done and how to handle themself. Alfie at least for me deserves to retire in Ottawa this team isn't going to compete for the cup anytime soon..so I don't understand this signing at all.

#2525309 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by frankgrimes on 23 June 2014 - 04:12 PM

As a good as Nyquist was last season let's put things into perspective here, O'Reilly is the more proven better player. Are people honestly expecting Goose to keep up that unreal stamkoslike PPG pace? I hope not, if so some of you will be disappointed.


If Goose adds 20 more pounds and still produces at such a great pace, then we can revisit this debate but so far ROR is the better player. Guy also plays an almost perfect clean game 2 penalty minutes in a whole season? _Wow

#2525307 HHOF Class of 2014

Posted by frankgrimes on 23 June 2014 - 04:06 PM

So very well deserved congratulations to the Dominator and all the other inductees strong class.

#2524925 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by frankgrimes on 20 June 2014 - 06:18 PM




He's realistically probably a really good 3rd liner, but he has played all over the Kings lineup, including 1st line with Kopitar. 



Nolan is more like a Thornton.  Though he's bigger and only 24, so his game still might develop some. 


Kopitar is another guy who has great size, he doesn't fight but he for sure knows how to use his body. I remember the time he got drafted I told a buddy of mine whichever team is going to draft this kid has a potential star right there, he laughed it off well now everyone can see what this guy can do.


Overall the Kings lineup is just filled with guys that have size and can obviously play really well. They have the makings of becoming a dynasty.

#2524922 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by frankgrimes on 20 June 2014 - 06:13 PM

The Kings have drafted a few guys like that.  


I'd love for the Wings to have drafted someone like Jordan Nolan.  6'3" 221 lbs.  24 yrs old.   Will hit, isn't a afraid to scrap with anyone.  Can chip in a few goals.   picked 7th round 186 overall. 


Or Dwight King. 6'4" 230 lbs. 24 yrs old.  HIts, will fight, can play hockey and go to the hard areas of the ice.  4th round, 109th overall.



Over the years it's been great for the Wings that they didn't have an anti-Euro bias in drafting guys.  I swear though it seems like sometimes they're biased against drafting big physical kids in the late rounds.  Like they'd rather keep their fingers crossed on a small skill player in hopes they'll land another Zetterberg. 


Yeah and it's not like King is a bad player, the guy can play for sure and their fourth line is feared around the NHL. The problem with drafting so many small guys in all the later rounds is that the Wings might still think, they are ahead of the curve when it comes to Euros which simple isn't true, other teams are sending their scouts to Sweden, Swiss, Finland and the other top leagues too so it's much harder to find a gems. Would be a good time to change the approach and start drafting big, physical kids.

#2524891 Joe Thornton to the Wings?

Posted by frankgrimes on 20 June 2014 - 03:39 PM

Paul Statsny - -the man with the difficult name -- would be available for nothing but cash, he is also younger so I would prefer him. Giving Jurco for Thornton would be a huge mistake.


Also keep in mind the guy has a no movement clause and I highly doubt he would waive it for another team entering the twilight and soon rebuildtime.

#2524858 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by frankgrimes on 20 June 2014 - 12:43 PM


 Special how?  I get that you like enforcers, and I'm certainly not going to try and talk you out of it, but you're starting to inflate Thornton's qualities into something mythic.  Even as far as enforcers go he's not all that great. 


- Leadership

- Physicality

- Can play the game (watch his penalty against Pavelec that was some serious hockeyskill right there)

- fight


I know a lot of people think Thornton is like Scott but the guy can/could play on a fourth line role. Guy changed the whole dynamic against Vancouver in 2011 and that team was loaded with talent. Finding enforcers like him is very hard and to be honest I think the Bruins will regret this decision in a lot of ways. Bergeron is extremely talented and a hardworker but he doesn't strike me as someone who would tell his own teammate to shut up and take a seat.

#2524771 State your unpopular opinion *Mod Warning Post #'s 200 & 219*

Posted by frankgrimes on 20 June 2014 - 04:45 AM

I think the Big Bang Theory is one of the worst sitcoms I've ever seen.


Not a football fan but after some stuff I read Go Redskins Go, Cowboys >>>> Indians

#2524580 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 June 2014 - 11:41 AM

The hype for Mrazek is funny the guy hasn't done anything worthwhile at the NHL level and yet people are already making him the next starter. Reminds a lot on a certain guy named Jacob Markström.

In 11 games in the nhl, he has a 1.8 gaa and a .926 sv%
And obviously he has been great in the ahl also

There are a lot of guys who have done well over such a small period of time but I think you really need to see a bigger picture like 30 games for two seasons to really get a better evaluation

#2524567 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 June 2014 - 11:07 AM

I think teams should have to pay 100 % of a players contract if they decide to buy them out, it doesn't count against the cap and the players would have a little more security.


Also the Tootoo situation is a bad one, I've always been against this signing saying that I'm really wondering what Holland and Babcock expected out of this guy ? If you bring in someone like Tootoo you should expect energy, a scrap here and there and some decent low ice time minutes nothing more. Hopefully he can sign somewhere else and retool his career there.


I'm really starting to think that this front office has a false idea of what a fourth line should and shouldn't be.


Nothing but the best of luck for him.

#2524545 Compliance buyout expected to be used on Tootoo

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 June 2014 - 09:19 AM

Weiss can't be bought out because the deal was sadly signed after the new CBS otherwise perfect candidate.

#2524518 Detroit re-signs Gustavsson 1 yr $1.85 mill

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 June 2014 - 04:19 AM

I think Holland might also want to re-sign him in order to push Howard to be better. Without the monster this team doesn't make the playoffs so having two capable goalies is not the worst thing in the world.

#2524517 Shawn Thornton will not be returning to the Bruins

Posted by frankgrimes on 19 June 2014 - 04:17 AM

If they are facing the enforcer out and let the rats ruin the show, hockey will become like soccer on ice = unwatchable.


It's funny how often Thornton gets called a goon, the guy has skill and brings a lot of energy, leadership teams like the Oilers should be lining up to get him and his leadership. He could do some huge guidance for Gazdic or join the Flames and build the toughest 4 line in the NHL with McGrattan and Westgarth. There is potential for him that's for sure. Guy will be in the NHL next year and thanks god this game needs more not less players like him.


It's also funny, when the team with the softest fourth line in the league is talking about wasting a roster spot on someone like Thornton. For years now our so called fourth line has been a joke compared to the ones from Boston, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Kings heck even Chicago has a more physical fourth line.


Mark my words Chiarelli will regret this decision as soon as the Leafs are rolling into B-town. Would love to see a reinnovation of a grind line and the bash brothers but I also know it wont happen.

#2524230 Eaves is OUT in Nashville

Posted by frankgrimes on 17 June 2014 - 12:28 PM

Eaves seems to be in that tough position where he's not physical enough to be a consistent 4th liner (including injuries), and not skilled enough to play on a 3rd line. He's got really high IQ on the PK, but he's had such terrible luck getting hurt. I wish the guy nothing but the best.


I feel terrible for him the guy deserves to play an injury free season and show the teams what he can do. Maybe he should put on a few more pounds in order to become a physical fourth liner.

#2524062 Avalanche are taking Ryan O'Reilly to club-selected arbitration

Posted by frankgrimes on 16 June 2014 - 04:45 PM


Just to be clear...ROR isn't getting paid 6.5 million because he is worth that.  He got that because Feaster tried his best to screw Colorado and make it an undesirable contract.


It was backloaded so his minimum qualifying offer has to be at least 6.5 million.  Colorado is doing their best to correct the situation.  Which makes complete sense.


How does it make sense? Arbiration is only accomplishing one thing: pissing off the player endlessly do you think Weber signed the enormous offersheet because he wanted to remain a Predator after they took their captain and best player to arbitration? Hardly.


From a business point of view the Avalanche are doing the right thing but hockey is bigger than business, there are also things like relationships, integrity and honesty. If that bridge is burned now O'Reilly will walk at the earliest option and have at least 20 teams offering him the moon. He knows it, his agent knows it  so the Avalanche aren't doing themselves any favors here.