A lot of understandable excitment here nice but keep in mind him being UFA does also mean, he can choose a team to his liking. There will be a lot of teams biding for his services so the Wings will have to make him a great offer. Something like 6 mill for 4 years should get the job done.
The best thing is if Niskanen signs with Minny -- which I think will happen -- there is another great UFA target.
Tuch, Larkin, McCann, and Milano are my top four for the Wings at 15. Honestly, though I kinda want to trade the pick for some help on the back end. Either that, or trade down to aquire a 2nd round pick.
Whos the second best defender after Ebklad ? Looks like the draft is very forward heavy
Ritchie, Tuch, Perlini, Larkin one of those 4 pls stay the hell away from guys like Ehlers, Barbashev. If they pick him might as well throw the pick away because he will go to the khl if things arent going his way
Also enough with the small soft euros need some hometown boys and size and grit
I don't understand how people are willing to pay a premium for Boyle but cringe on the money for a guy like Niskanen ? Every contract holds some risk yes, Niskanen is coming off his best year but it's not like he has been horrible before the guy knows how to move the puck and how to play a solid defensive game.
If you have to overpay him by about 0,5kk you do it, especially with our top 4...
The amount of negative opinions being spouted around here are incredible. We're not even in July yet and people are calling the season practically as good as dead and all because of what? Because we re-signed one of our best players from last season and we haven't addressed any of our issues yet. I mean, everyone is entitled to their opinions and that's fine, but when you're constantly thrashing out the same old line over and over, it gets a little tiresome. I know I know. KH sucks, Franzen is lazy, Howard will never be the elite goalie that we seem to somehow be entitled to just because we're the Red Wings, our D couldn't win the Calder Cup let alone the Stanley Cup, and we're got a forward group that's full of a bunch of washed up, old, warn out, injury prone veterans who can't even keep up with their own children on the ice anymore.
We all know that success comes in cycles, and that good teams eventually get knocked down a peg a little and then have to build their way back up to the top again. This is precisely what is happening with the Wings right now, and with what we've seen last year that we've got good young kids in DeKeyser, Jurco, Sheahan, Tatar, Nyquist and Mrazek all ready to contribute, why should we trade a bunch of em away when we're not going to get full return on them and when really, right now, they provide our team with energy, skill and desire to win. Alfie coming back helps because he's got a bomb of a shot for the PP, he's still got good wheels, and provides another leadership presence in the room. Those of you who are bashing him, do you really think that our situation would improve if you shoved some unready kid onto top line minutes for the entire season? Don't you think that would actually make our team worse and then we might be 'mediocre'?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not oblivious to the fact that this team has holes, which are primarily on D. But at least for heavens sakes, give management a chance to address them before you start calling for their heads.
Don't have to read it if you don't like it, problem solved. I think it isn't so much negativity and more concerns - for all the right reasons - since 2009 this team hasn't even come close to anything near cup contention. Then Lidström retired and there was no plan B because we didn't get Suter.
The problem is, Alife and co. aren't what the Wings need longtermwise a young team at some point needs to build chemistry in order to go forward and know the in and outs of their defensive or offensive linemates. Look at the Kings they grew together and even then, Lombardi saw his team needed a broader leadership group brings in Richards, sees the team isn't scoring enough brings in Carter --> first cup for the kings, two years he sees a top 6 need brings in Gaborik ----> cup #2.
And what are the Wings -- a team that isn't even close the talent level of the powerhouses -- doing ? Sign one patchwork player after another instead of maybe risking the streak and build for the future. If the mojo around the league is really that the Wings aren't willing to overpay well then good luck getting any top ufa to sign here, it's not going to happen. Unless of course you are 34+. The needs for improvement have been evident since 2009 and that to me is enough time to make the neccessary move especially after losing an alltime top 4 defender. Armstrong has build a very good Blues team and yet he saw a chance/need and brought in Miller yeah it didn't work out but at least he tried. Thats what great GMs do they are willing to take risks, the Wings aren't a small market team and they shouldn't be run like one, our owner is willing to pay everything just to win with an almost blank cheque I simply expect better than bringing back Alfie and some patchwork signings come July 1. Holland once was regarded as the best GM in hockey time to prove it..
Also capspace is useless if you don't use it, is Niskanen worth 5,5 to 6 per ? Probably not but overpaying is part of UFA and trade deadline other GMs like Chiarelli, Lombardi and Bowman are ok with it, but Kenny seems to have a hard time adopting to this. Like some others I'm starting to believe Lidström did not even make the team as a whole better he also made Holland better than he might be.
The leadership on this group is more than fine, when you have Z, Pasha, Kronwall that's enough to show the young kids how stuff gets done and how to handle themself. Alfie at least for me deserves to retire in Ottawa this team isn't going to compete for the cup anytime soon..so I don't understand this signing at all.
As a good as Nyquist was last season let's put things into perspective here, O'Reilly is the more proven better player. Are people honestly expecting Goose to keep up that unreal stamkoslike PPG pace? I hope not, if so some of you will be disappointed.
If Goose adds 20 more pounds and still produces at such a great pace, then we can revisit this debate but so far ROR is the better player. Guy also plays an almost perfect clean game 2 penalty minutes in a whole season? _Wow
He's realistically probably a really good 3rd liner, but he has played all over the Kings lineup, including 1st line with Kopitar.
Nolan is more like a Thornton. Though he's bigger and only 24, so his game still might develop some.
Kopitar is another guy who has great size, he doesn't fight but he for sure knows how to use his body. I remember the time he got drafted I told a buddy of mine whichever team is going to draft this kid has a potential star right there, he laughed it off well now everyone can see what this guy can do.
Overall the Kings lineup is just filled with guys that have size and can obviously play really well. They have the makings of becoming a dynasty.
I'd love for the Wings to have drafted someone like Jordan Nolan. 6'3" 221 lbs. 24 yrs old. Will hit, isn't a afraid to scrap with anyone. Can chip in a few goals. picked 7th round 186 overall.
Or Dwight King. 6'4" 230 lbs. 24 yrs old. HIts, will fight, can play hockey and go to the hard areas of the ice. 4th round, 109th overall.
Over the years it's been great for the Wings that they didn't have an anti-Euro bias in drafting guys. I swear though it seems like sometimes they're biased against drafting big physical kids in the late rounds. Like they'd rather keep their fingers crossed on a small skill player in hopes they'll land another Zetterberg.
Yeah and it's not like King is a bad player, the guy can play for sure and their fourth line is feared around the NHL. The problem with drafting so many small guys in all the later rounds is that the Wings might still think, they are ahead of the curve when it comes to Euros which simple isn't true, other teams are sending their scouts to Sweden, Swiss, Finland and the other top leagues too so it's much harder to find a gems. Would be a good time to change the approach and start drafting big, physical kids.
Special how? I get that you like enforcers, and I'm certainly not going to try and talk you out of it, but you're starting to inflate Thornton's qualities into something mythic. Even as far as enforcers go he's not all that great.
- Can play the game (watch his penalty against Pavelec that was some serious hockeyskill right there)
I know a lot of people think Thornton is like Scott but the guy can/could play on a fourth line role. Guy changed the whole dynamic against Vancouver in 2011 and that team was loaded with talent. Finding enforcers like him is very hard and to be honest I think the Bruins will regret this decision in a lot of ways. Bergeron is extremely talented and a hardworker but he doesn't strike me as someone who would tell his own teammate to shut up and take a seat.