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#2537418 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by frankgrimes on 27 September 2014 - 03:34 AM

Getting a tough guy would be easy and cheap.  Would it do anything to improve the Wings or prevent any injuries?  I doubt it.  The Wings never were a "free agent destination" and as has been discussed many times, the free agents who have "shunned" the Wings haven't gone to better teams in better cities or for more money in most cases.  Are the Wings too loyal and stick with veteran players way too long?  Absolutely.  In some cases, it worked, in others it didn't.  

 

Keeping the other team honest can be correlated to less injuries. Hockey is a physical sport there is no way to 100 % prevent injuries but there are ways to force the other team to clean their act up. One of them is to finally get a another Downey, DMac to take care of business. Yes it's easy and cheap, yet it hasn't been done since our last cup (needless to say the Wings haven't one anything since then and are losing out on top UFA players also).

 

The Wings were never a free agent destination ? False, there was a team when the Wings could almost dictate the terms and free agents still died to come here...I know it seems like forever. Ehrhoff went to a much better Stanley Cup contender for 4 million that's an absolute steal!

 

 

 

I'm just saying that I'll take a meathead if we can't get a fighter with talent (which I know we won't).    

 

Enforcer may be on the bottom of the list, but the top of the list isn't something Holland seems to be able to realistically address.  He doesn't have any sway over free agents anymore and neither does the organization.  We're not going to obtain a top 6 winger or a top pair defenseman, so what's the use wishing for the impossible.

 

Getting a tough guy would be easy and cheap.   

 

The funny thing is those so called "meatheads" are playing a very clean game they know what their job is and they execute it well. I really can't think of any cheapshot by the likes of Colton Orr, Brian McGrattan (guy even gives other enforcers a second chance to guess if they really want to go with him!) or Frazer McLaren.

 

Also in my mind Tootoo is more of an agitator than an enforcer, yeah he will fight and provide some energy but agitators often need enforcers because they aren't feared, their job is to get under the skin of the other team.

 

For everyone saying getting g etting a tough guy is low priority...well the team also failed - like GMR 1983 mentioned - to land top pairing or top 6 guys and some of them don't even want to come here so that doesn't leave a lot of options other than hoping for some prospects to turn out much better than expected, otherwise neither Pasha nor Z will see another cup with this team. And personally I'd rather watch an entertaining team than pussysoft one that gets pushed around and have their best player missing time due to ellbows, hard preseason hits...The rematch against the Ottawa Senators was embarrassing.




#2537397 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by frankgrimes on 26 September 2014 - 01:26 PM

Wheter people like it or not the mental mindset also plays a huge in hockey. If I'm a bigger team I'd love to play the Wings:

 

- hit everything that moves ... at worse case a non existant powerplay big deal kill it off and keep hitting

- go after their star players and no response

- star gets injured ? Well we don't have to fear anything because the team is pussysoft and won't fight fire with fire.

 

Downey used Laperiere as his punching bag and the whole team came together in such an amazing fashion. I'm starting to wonder what would happen if someone pulls a Keczmar against Pasha, Z business as usual I guess ? For everyone saying oh we don't need tough guys we need skill, this team hasn't won anything since they've lost toughness (sure the Wings also lost a ton of FO and on ice skill too) but that's the fact.

 

Players want to feel safe outthere and play there game, without having to worry about rats.

 

How is Calgary too tough ? They might add a 160 lbs !!! player would people like it to feed someone like that to the wolves ? The rats - who are now taking over - would absolutely take advantage of him and intimidate Johnny Hockey at every opportunity they might still do it, but then have to be prepared for the wrath of Bollig, McGrattan, Engelland, Yonkman...

Last season 1 guy stood up for Pasha and it was Sam a guy who doesn't and shouldn't fight.

 

Yeah the Milan Lucic type doesn't grow on trees but it's not that hard to add guys like Colton Orr, McGrattan heck McLaren, Frazer, Steve MacIntyre were on waivers and could be had for nothing. We are talking about 4 line players here, there job isn't to score goals or prevent them they have an average TOi  of ~ 8 minutes their job is  to keep the other team honest and making sure that people pay for taking advantage of Pasha. If we had MacIntyre or McLaren on our team, Scuderi would have thought twice about hitting Pasha and Cowen would have kept his damn ellbow down. Injuries are not something that will go away so the last thing this team needs is the added factor of more injuries from hard hits in PRESEASON games. Get rid of the instigator and let's see if the Marchand's, Cooke's and Lapierre's of the league are still so "brave"




#2537347 Hockey Podcasts

Posted by frankgrimes on 26 September 2014 - 01:27 AM

I highly recommend the Puckpodcast, Eddie Garcia and Doug Stolhand are excellent hosts and they are covering all the news.

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#2537310 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 September 2014 - 05:19 PM

You guys are going to love this...

 


Link

 

Loving it but it shouldn't even be news. I mean it's a long summer the players have a lot of money and maybe rich families so they should be able to attend some MMA training too. But of course it must be nice if guys like Gillies, Bollig are willing to teach them how to defend themselves. Feels like yesterday when everyone thought the Flames would be a pussysoft, undersized team and now look at them, guys like Chara won't be laughing like they did against Abdelkader..

 

Personally I think guys like Pasha, Nyquist, and Tatar would welcome the addition of someone who has their back.

 

Here is my Brian McGrattan on the addition on Brandon Bollig (reporter asks him about the added size and toughness on the team):

it's actually security for our young players to go and play as freely as they want...without having to worry about anything.

 

I would LOVE if someone on this team would say the same thing about Pasha, Z, Nyquist and guess what I think they would welcome it too.

 

The days of having the PP as an enforcer are long but gone. I don't know about some of the anti-toughness fans but personally I would love seeing the skilled guys on this team doing their thing as freely as they want...




#2537298 Datsyuk 2nd degree separated shoulder injury - out approx 4 weeks

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 September 2014 - 03:20 PM

 

agreed.

lol. and you know this how? there have been so many instances of players taking runs at star players on pertty much every team that this notion is laughable.

 

enforcers do not deter players from taking cheapshots anymore thanks in large part to how the nhl has changed the rules

 

Remember in 2008, when lapeirre took a run at lidstrom and injured him. downey was in the lineup but that didnt stop him from going after lidstrom

 

or how about kronwall this past season when mcleod boarded him right next to tootoo.


it's hilarious to think by today's standards that mccarty only got a 5 min major for fighting after that beatdown. If he did that today, he would probably be gone for the year

 

Monahan made the Flames and could focus fully on hockey, nobody took cheapshots or borderline hits against him and guess why ? People FEAR McGrattan as every cheapshot artist = rat should. The point of the matter is this Pasha is by far the best player on this team he is wasting his last years on a team that doesn't stick up for each other and where the FO doesn't bring in guys that could help out. It's not just about fighting it's that whole "anti physicality" mindset that I'm questioning Downey said it best himself "hey you can hit our players but if you try to take advantage of star/weaker/smallish players someone sneaky will come around the corner..."

 

The last player who took liberties with Kessel was a behemoth called John Scott nobody else has done so, because nobody wants to answer to Colton Orr, Frazer McLaren. Phaneuf told Crosby to keep to clean his act up or else he would hit him in the same manner...nobody on our team is doing that and maybe just maybe there is already too much complacensy...

 

Ok Scuderi laid out a clean hit fine, where are the guys that say "ok it's preseason and they are playing this like regular/playoff season in terms of physicality let's hit Maataa, Kunitz ...in the same manner" there is freaking nobody. Things like this are also a bounding experience for team they rally around each other and know everyone heas each others back.




#2537294 TSN new website a mess ?

Posted by frankgrimes on 25 September 2014 - 02:59 PM

I don't get it TSN has had such an informative and well organized site. Yeah, you want a more modern look but why not keep the great structure instead of throwing the whole concept over board and thencreate something where nobody knows, how to find stuff ?! i.e. Podcasts, Season Preview...

 

Also please stop that stupid "load more" button and add SITE numbers seriously how difficult is that ? Even I could code that.

 

Now the site looks "modern" but more like a mobile unorganized site...disappointed. If somebody knows where to find the podcasts etc. please link them :(




#2536936 9/22/14 7:00 PM. Preseason GDT - DET 2 @ PIT 1

Posted by frankgrimes on 23 September 2014 - 03:19 AM

Woke up this morning, first thing I thought was "wonder how the Wings did?". Second thing I thought was "I wonder who got injured?" :(

 

Same and I guess nobody stood up for Pasha ... same old same old :(




#2536843 9/22/14 7:00 PM. Preseason GDT - DET 2 @ PIT 1

Posted by frankgrimes on 22 September 2014 - 07:24 PM

Nobody going after Bortuzzo do that against a Calgary player and you leave the game in a different way...


#2536674 Barry Trotz Wants Ovechkin to be more like Yzerman

Posted by frankgrimes on 20 September 2014 - 07:31 PM

Ovechkin is the epitome of the lazy, one dimensional Russian of this generation. He is waiting for the puck on the powerplay and unloads his crazy one-timer. The Captain wore the Wings logo deep in his heart, the return to glory started with him, Stevie even changed his whole game just to help out the team. The guy basically played some playoff series on one leg and NEVER complained. Making him captain has been a real mistake, he isn't a leader and never will be he is a very good goalscorer but really has no other ability.

 

Ovechkin is what he is and he will never change the words Yzerman and Ovechkin in the same sentence are just *LOL*

 

I hate to say it but the only guy who is close to become a lighter Yzerman is captain serious Jonathan Toews :( also at least to me the best pure goalscorer and TEAM guy is Stammer, he never complains is already elite and keeps working his butt off to be in even better shape each year, something that can't be said about Ovechkin.

 

btw. the sad thing is if more Russians were like Pasha and less like like Ovechkin, Kovalchuck there wouldn't even be a russian factor in the NHL and some of them could MAYBE turn into useful two way players.




#2536553 TSN ranks all major league sport franchises.

Posted by frankgrimes on 18 September 2014 - 11:32 PM

ESPN more than enough to skip the whole article


#2536546 Mantha's Injury

Posted by frankgrimes on 18 September 2014 - 08:50 PM

Sucks for the guy but I doubt he would have made the team. So let him get healthy and start in the AHL. Injuries will happen and Mantha should get a few callups here and there. Get well soon this Sucks!


#2536382 Ericsson and Alfredsson not 100%

Posted by frankgrimes on 16 September 2014 - 08:27 PM

Man, if Alfie's back is tweaked before the pre-season begins how can he possibly be considered for a contract?


I don't think that's even in consideration right now. I think the team will wait and see how all of this plays out for Alfie and if things are going well he might get signed. But really that should not be important now the important thing is Alfie getting healthy and being able to enjoy a pain free life.


#2536334 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by frankgrimes on 16 September 2014 - 04:40 PM

A lot less than I thought also now it's quite clear what cost the delay - lowballing.

 

If the guy continues to play this well his next contract will be a huge one that's for sure if he wants to stay. Danny gave a huge hometown discount here just so he can attend the camp what a player what a person..

 

So now he should be good to go for the camp book him a flight + room and let's start training camp.




#2536312 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by frankgrimes on 16 September 2014 - 02:46 PM

A bit off topic...

 

DD didn't get to spend any time with Lids - unlike Ericsson, and Kronwall - he was thrown in full speed ahead, and didn't look outta place one bit.

 

IMHO - he's our 2nd best Dman, and with Ericsson questionable...Well - Holland better get this kid signed.

 

Exactly I would go as far and say that in 2 years tops he is going to be our best defenseman if he continues his amazing progress. The problem with Holland is he is overpaying for the false guys and low balling the players he should overpay (including top UFAs :( ).




#2536265 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by frankgrimes on 16 September 2014 - 01:13 AM

If that's what it takes sure. Babcock has all the leverage here his salary doesn't count against the cap and his resume is unreal. I don't think Quenville is the highest paid coach, I think it's Carlyle