Eichel vs Larkin the future of team USA on display here should be a good one.
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Posted by frankgrimes on 14 December 2015 - 09:46 AM
Posted by frankgrimes on 08 December 2015 - 03:27 PM
It was very difficult for me to make this decision to have to step away from the game, Dupuis said in the team release. My wife and four children have always been my first priority, and playing with my condition has become a constant worry for all of us. I want to thank my teammates and the Penguins organization for their unwavering support during this difficult time.
As stupid as it may sound I think it's a sad and smart decision at the same time because he is putting his family and longterm health over his hockey career and by all accounts Dupuis had a very solid one and even won a cup. So hopefully he can now enjoy his post career without health problems and maybe stay involved in some form.
Posted by frankgrimes on 08 December 2015 - 03:15 PM
Meh. Gotta voice in on this one. Already stated I don't want him winning. But I'd say he's up there with Domi and Panarin. If it keeps up like this for all those it's gonna be tight. Also doubt Connor McJesus gets it if they do.
He has a lot of things going for him. The plus-rating, his placing and production on the top lines. Homegrown kid. Mature. Scores readily.
I don't like it. If you catch my drift.
Lol his nickname is now McJesus? I've read McSavior McGretzky but McJesus takes the cake lol
Panarin is playing on a stacked team has tons of pro experience and plays with maybe the hottest player in the league right now, Kane is riding an insane 20+ game pointstreak. I personally don't care if Larkin wins or not if he has a great season every Wings fan will know it an award doesn't change that.
Posted by frankgrimes on 08 December 2015 - 03:12 PM
WiiM thinks Glendening is the worst player in the NHL based on analytics, which he's not. Just shows you can't make reasonable judgements based solely on analytics. Another analytic peice a week ago said the wings will miss the playoffs based on their play in the first 22 games. Sometimes analytics go way overboard and are just ridiculous
I like Glendening a lot he gets the job done sure he may not be flashy but he gets the job done and thats all I care about. As a plus side he isn't afraid of going to the dirty areas either and doesn't shy away from contact which is rare enough for this team.
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Posted by frankgrimes on 07 December 2015 - 01:15 PM
For the most part Boston with Julien as coach plays a simply 'north-south' game of dump, and chase...Guys like Ferraro didn't seem to have the skills for Detroit, but will do fine in Boston.
Well Boston used to be one of the most entertaining teams in the league but with the loss of Looch and Thornton that's sadly gone. This team could have been a contender for years to come if they didn't trade away their future in Seguin, Hamilton. Looch was the face of that franchise.
Don't know if the system is simple or not it seems to be a good fit for Ferraro and I for one like that.
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Posted by frankgrimes on 01 December 2015 - 03:18 PM
It's an awesome read. Guy seems like a bit of a hothead on the ice but class guy of the ice. http://www.theplayer...coyotes-hockey/
Manso was our assistant captain and had been in the league for a decade. I’ll never forget him looking me in the eye and growling, “Don’t you ever roll your eyes at the coach again! I don’t care how good you are or what you go on to do in your career, don’t you ever disrespect your coach like that again!”
Here’s the thing: Manso wasn’t a guy anyone would expect to suck up to the coach. He wasn’t even a particularly vocal person in general. And I think that’s why his message got through to me so clearly. He didn’t do this for himself; he did it because it was right.
But for one reason or another, this organization showed faith in me. They could have easily gotten rid of me at any point, and nobody would have had a second thought about it. That’s the business, and you either learn to understand that or it’s forcefully taught to you. But somehow, throughout the years, I avoided the cycle of getting moved from team to team.
And that’s really how it works in this profession, unfortunately: If you get moved one time, it generally happens again and again. And at that point, even if you’re a high-caliber player, it can be difficult to stick because you don’t get to establish yourself in any one place. When you watch the really great teams, you notice a certain flow and grace in their play. You’ll see a special chemistry on their best lines. That takes time to develop.
When you get brought up by great guys like that, you feel a responsibility to pass on their message. So much of this game is about respect, and when I tell a young guy something to improve, I’m paying my respects to Kris, Keith, Teppo and the other veterans who had an impact on my career. If I didn’t pass on that knowledge to the young guys, I would be ignoring a big part of my obligation as a veteran of this league. I’ve never seen it as a chore, but as a way to make my team better. That’s all I ever really want.
Just a few highlights, Doan seems to really love being captain. I agree with him the fans who are still showing up there deserve all credit in the world but yeah in the end it won't be enough and the team will be on the move soon. I also like the fact how he isn't just thinking about himself but also his family when it comes to trades.
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Posted by frankgrimes on 29 November 2015 - 08:29 PM
I'm only going to quote this one, but the post you made in response to me earlier in the thread was spot on dude.
The only thing is we seem to be able to develop forwards amazingly well, especially compared to developing defenseman. So I think we have a better chance at developing someone into a number one c, than we do a number one d. That's the only reason Id consider trading Larkin for someone like OEL or ekblad, which I'd still be hesitant to do, and i doubt Florida or az would do it anyway.
But we really didnt do much development with Larkin, he did it all on his own, which is what makes it so special. We don't pick high enough to get players of his calibur, and when we do they're damaged goods in some aspects.(compete level, or another skill that's not at a high level) that we have to teach them.
Larkin's a very, very special player.
I said it last year when he was tearing up the ncaa, He's our next captain.
And the potential of having our captains and assistant captains all from Michigan in the future is so damn cool.
Does anyone know if we Would be the first team to have all our captains from the teams home state?
Wow that would be incredible cool I think we'd be the second team, since the Habs had that French only captains and A's policy some years ago.
But yeah Larkin is very special but Ekblad is probably the most untouchable Panther right now, guy has future Norris winner written all over him. Like I said there is no way I'd be dealing Larkin for a realistic return right now, neither would I trade Mantha. But with the exception of Danny D. some package will be needed to get that top pairing guy even if it means dealing one of Goose, Tatar, AA..
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Posted by frankgrimes on 27 November 2015 - 09:33 AM
Do you think the fans should have "protected" their game from the forward pass in the 1920s? Now THAT increased scoring.
As far as growing the game, I just don't think the NHL is in a place where it can turn away potential new fans. Do we really think hard-core fans are going to leave the NHL in droves because of a 2" change to the size of the net? You can't even see that difference on your TV at home. But the increased scoring that would result WOULD help star forwards grow their brand and that brings in more casual fans.
Edit: To clarify, I'm not saying you're wrong. I get that hockey traditionalism is an important part of why the game is where it is. But I think sometimes we're more than a tad bit overreactive to what would, actually, be a minor change. We're acting like making the nets 2" bigger all the way around would fundamentally isolate fans of the "way the game used to be." For one thing, the game USED to be higher scoring. For another thing, it's not changing the way the game is played. It's just rewarding high-skill players slightly more for what they already display on a nightly basis.
At the very least, let's reverse the trend of scoring going down each season and keep things where they are now. That isn't going to happen just by players "trying harder." Ovechkin tries plenty hard and has just as much skill as anyone else from back in the day, but he can't get above 100 points. That's a product of the game, not his play or his effort level.
Making the rinks larger will do nothing and honestly it will never happen. The arenas today are multifunctional no sane owner will agree to shut them down for a few weeks and risk losing a lot of revenue, it's just not going to happen. Also players, coaches would figure out in a hurry how to take away the new space (i.e. olympic ice). Well I don't care if it helps star-forwards they are STAR forwards so they should be able to score a bunch of goals and assists right? Funny nobody is saying let's help the star defenders doing their job, so why help the forwards? I personally couldn't care less if a new fan is turned away because his favorite player hasn't scored 100 points and "only" managed to get lets say 88. Honestly 100 points should be the exception (a highlight) in a players career not the norm.
Gretzky is hands down the best player who ever played the game but back then goalies - with the few obvious exceptions - weren't as atheltic and well trained as they are now. Never understood why people are so fixated on 3 digit numbers if its that important they can go watch the NBA.
I think a lot of fans are protective (not that it matters what he think anyways..) of the game because some of the changes have all been for the worst: hockey in places with ECHL like attendances, salary cup, instigator rule, constant twinkering with the ASG till it has become basically a joke. Also Ovechkin is not a playermaker he is a finisher, which means he will score more goals and have less assists so I doubt he'll ever reach 100 or whatever points.
Another reason why the game "used to be higher scoring" is owners were able to aDD and KEEP all-star-talent that isn't the case anymore, players have to get used to new linemates, find new chemistry and need time to figure it out. And now people want to punish goalies for being reallyreally good? Doesn't make sense to me.
Posted by frankgrimes on 26 November 2015 - 05:50 PM
If fans aren't protective of their game it will get worse each year simple as that. it's your opinion so you aren't wrong bit you are focussing only on the star forwards which I think is a mistake because there are superstars on the defense and in goal too.
Hockey fans are notoriously protective of their game, I think to a fault.
Someone explain to me why I'm wrong.
If a potential fan can't appreciate a low scoring game a great blocked shot, fantastic safe well maybe then hockey isn't the right sport to follow for them pure and simple.
My novel idea if someone wants to get 100 points is. .play your rear end of and hope to stay injury free. The nhl is the best league in the world scoring goals is and should be tough star forwards will need to figure out a way to do it.
The goalies then played mostly a stand up style and more often than not weren't in good shape that's changed now
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Posted by frankgrimes on 26 November 2015 - 02:10 PM
Just saw the highlights from that Ottawa Dallas game both played like they don't know what defense means and the goaltending was average at best. That's not exciting
Right now the game just lacks some other elements that made it must watch TV like more and harder hits, fights and the occasional line brawls.
Some people just can't embrace the fact that goaltenders are now extremely good athletes too.
I want the goals to have an impact and tight games accomplish that. I'm sure it's damn hard to score on Price , King Henrik and Rinne but so what they are the elite of the elite for a reason.
there is no need for tinkering it would just make the game more gimmicky and that's the last thing we need.
If anything bring back the fantastic old-school hockey instead of making the current game even worse
Posted by frankgrimes on 24 November 2015 - 08:40 PM
Guy would be an absolute sensation, young, big and with the development of Larkin our post Z and Pasha center future would be set for years to come. guys like this don't make it to UFA anymore
btw. good job Tortarella not even a month in and players are already asking to be traded what a great hire by Kekailainen
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Posted by frankgrimes on 24 November 2015 - 02:29 PM
Wow that's surprising thought the Leafs would the most valueable franchise again.
conclusions from this list:
- Wings are (again ) worth the least from all Original 6 franchises
- the league wants 500 mill expansion fee yet only 11 teams are worth more than 500 mill, 6 of them being original 6 teams. Dream some more NHL..
- with the exception of the Habs all Canadian teams lost some value (very surprising)
- surprised that the Pens aren't worth more with that much talent
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Posted by frankgrimes on 19 November 2015 - 07:56 PM
Ya god forbid they have fun at an event that's supposed to be fun for the players and fans. Shame on bettman *sigh*
Ya I'm sure playing 20 minutes of three on three in a meaningless game, while other players can enjoy the time-off with their families is a lot of fun.
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