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#2681255 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Richdg on 01 July 2016 - 11:52 AM

Except Backes will be broken in 2 years. Worst contract of the day.

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that is your opinion based on nothing. Backes is a better player now and in the past than nielson is. There is 0 debate about this. 3 years from now we will all be bitching about Nielson still being on the team and costing us 5.25 mil in cap hit. This team is slower and softer today than we were last season.

#2677365 Gordie Howe has passed away. 1928-2016.

Posted by Richdg on 10 June 2016 - 12:12 PM

Not close to being the Wings best player of all time, let alone the GOAT. Lidstrom, Feds, Yzerman go before him

You must be 12. Gordie was the best. But don't take my word for it take Gretzky's. he thinks/thought Gordie was the best ever as well.

#2676101 Mantha

Posted by Richdg on 17 May 2016 - 01:52 PM

Mantha's final numbers for the year:


79 games played 27 goals 32 assists 59 points.


If he can put up those type of numbers at the NHL level we have a stud. He and Lil Bert carried the Griffs in the PO's.

#2675723 Mantha

Posted by Richdg on 11 May 2016 - 08:47 AM

Mantha is currently 3rd in scoring for the AHL playoffs. 8 points in 7 games. 4 goals and 4 assists. This also makes 27 goals in 77 games at all levels.

#2674898 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by Richdg on 02 May 2016 - 02:59 PM

I personally would trade the 16 to the jets if possible for the 22 and 36

Been reading up on some draft stuff online and checking out players

Sure the 2 Finns going in the top 3 everyone knows about but I seen a few others who caught my eye that we can look at later in the draft

Number 9 euro rated prospect henrik borgstrom , gonna turn 19 later after the draft and put up some good numbers in Finland , like 50+ pts I believe and is going the NCAA route next season, and he stands at 6'3

The other one I believe was ranked 28th Otto koivula who's only 17 (turns 18 in September ) who's 6'4 220 and put up 50+ pts already http://www.elitepros...p?player=241338

I know most kids usually get passed over at that age but I'd love for us to risk it and hope he turns out to be a star

As for defense there's 15 euro ranked Lucas carlsson who went undrafted last season and is gonna turn 19, and Stepan falkovsky who also went undrafted last season and stands at 6'7 and came down to North America to play in the juniors this last season

Also like Dennis cholowski, Lucas johansen(Ryan johansen'a brother),Frederic allard,James greenway and Kenny Johnson (jack johnsons brother)

Gonna keep reading around, alot of info out there .... I like to look at 30+ ranked guys and some euro guys and look for possible gems

Greenway would be a good 3rd rd pick if we had one....... Going to college which gives us extra time on the development side.

#2674499 This hits the nail on the head......

Posted by Richdg on 29 April 2016 - 03:23 PM


Nope. But true. Please I am not attacking anyone personally, so don't take it that way.

#2674426 This hits the nail on the head......

Posted by Richdg on 29 April 2016 - 09:24 AM

Good read.





#2674152 Fixing this mess....

Posted by Richdg on 28 April 2016 - 09:36 AM


Such authority. Were you president of a debate club? Look around, there is no shortage of debate. You seem to have a way snubbing people who probably agree with you on major points. I agree 100% Holland needs to act and has not. I disagree in that he has said the right things, even this week. He always leads with excuses. 

Not sure what you are talking about???? Many of us debate without taking any offense to things, please join us.

I couldn't disagree more with that, but whatever...


We have guys like Helm on the team and in the minors. We don't have many/any rugged wingers in the system. That is the big difference IMHO. You need both and would never say otherwise. Vs TB it was shown once again how important a good rugged checking line is.

#2674151 Mantha

Posted by Richdg on 28 April 2016 - 09:31 AM

I am and have been a fan of Mantha's from the beginning. I spent months before the draft hoping we would draft him. That being said he is a very good prospect. Nothing more at this time. Until he proves he can score in the NHL he will remain a prospect. There is however only 1 way for him to prove he is a NHL caliber player: Play NHL games. Sending him down when he was clearly helping us was a mistake. Our PP was much better with him on it. Then he goes down and we went 1 for 24 on the PP in the PO's. Now maybe we still struggle, maybe not. But to use the same guys that have sucked on the PP all year in the PO's and expect a different result is stupid. Plain and simple, Holland/Blashill screwed up.


Yes all prospects get overhyped before they actually play. Nature of the beast. Same is true with Larkin. We think/hope he will be a star someday, but as of now he is not. 2 years from now, maybe.


The one thing that does bother me with the RW's and Mantha is the negative comments in the press about him that haven't been said about others. The "spare forward" comment by Holland was flat out stupid. Jimmy D last year same thing. This hasn't happened with Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Pulk, etc... Why are they doing this with Mantha? Maybe he is a kid that thrives on confrontation? Don't know. But some of this is bad management.

#2674031 The Holiday tradition: 2016 Draft thoughts.....

Posted by Richdg on 27 April 2016 - 03:21 PM

The only thing smith and I disagree with is what is the best way to fix our D. We both agree it needs to be improved. Greatly improved is what is needed.

#2674027 Mantha

Posted by Richdg on 27 April 2016 - 02:09 PM

Just to compare.

Nyquist first trip up was in 11/12. He played 18 games and scored 1 goal.

Tatar first trip up was 10/11. He played 9 games and scored 1 goal.

Datsyuk's first year was 01/02. He played 70 games and had 11 goals.

Abby played 54 games over three seasons: 07-10. He scored 3 goals over that stretch.


Mantha's 2 goals in 10 games is 16 per 80 games. Those are decent numbers for a rookie that wasn't a top 5 pick.

#2674024 Mantha

Posted by Richdg on 27 April 2016 - 02:00 PM

My point being, AHL dominence doesn't always mean a player is a good NHL player. Mantha was not good.

pure craziness. he was good. he wasn't great.

#2674008 Mantha

Posted by Richdg on 27 April 2016 - 10:58 AM

And Pulk destroyed AHL goalies. I think Mantha will be about as good as Nyquist, but he's not there yet. He wasnt ich more than a PP specialist. Had Trashill used his players better, they could have had a better chance without Mantha.

There are many differences between Pulk and mantha. The only thing Pulk brings is a great shot. He isn't big, or fast, or very skilled. He is a great shooter. That is easy to stop. Mantha brings much more than Pulk and more than most of our F's. He just needs game time. In a couple of years he will be better than Nyquist because he does so many things that Nyquist can't do.

#2673809 Fixing this mess....

Posted by Richdg on 26 April 2016 - 10:12 AM

Anyone see game 7 between Chicago - St.Louis? Did you catch how the Blues defender Pietrangelo played? Did he look exactly like someone that played on this team up to 2012 in his prime?

Land him and we have a replacement for nr 5. If I was Holland I'd at least explore the possibility. A little inquiry post-season.

No chance in hell they ever trade him. Just not worth the time to talk about. Now Shattenkirk on the other hand could be had for the right price. In some ways he fits our needs better being RHed to pair with Dekeyser.

#2673578 Ownership shows Support for Kenny Holland

Posted by Richdg on 25 April 2016 - 04:38 PM

If Zetterberg is our top line center next season, we're in trouble.  He has no room to talk or be angry.  His body can't do what it once did.  Nothing can change that.  


As for Holland, he'll never be fired.  The Ilitch family has given him immunity long ago.  

Dombrowski though the same thing.