I personally would trade the 16 to the jets if possible for the 22 and 36
Been reading up on some draft stuff online and checking out players
Sure the 2 Finns going in the top 3 everyone knows about but I seen a few others who caught my eye that we can look at later in the draft
Number 9 euro rated prospect henrik borgstrom , gonna turn 19 later after the draft and put up some good numbers in Finland , like 50+ pts I believe and is going the NCAA route next season, and he stands at 6'3
I know most kids usually get passed over at that age but I'd love for us to risk it and hope he turns out to be a star
As for defense there's 15 euro ranked Lucas carlsson who went undrafted last season and is gonna turn 19, and Stepan falkovsky who also went undrafted last season and stands at 6'7 and came down to North America to play in the juniors this last season
Also like Dennis cholowski, Lucas johansen(Ryan johansen'a brother),Frederic allard,James greenway and Kenny Johnson (jack johnsons brother)
Gonna keep reading around, alot of info out there .... I like to look at 30+ ranked guys and some euro guys and look for possible gems
Greenway would be a good 3rd rd pick if we had one....... Going to college which gives us extra time on the development side.
Such authority. Were you president of a debate club? Look around, there is no shortage of debate. You seem to have a way snubbing people who probably agree with you on major points. I agree 100% Holland needs to act and has not. I disagree in that he has said the right things, even this week. He always leads with excuses.
Not sure what you are talking about???? Many of us debate without taking any offense to things, please join us.
I couldn't disagree more with that, but whatever...
We have guys like Helm on the team and in the minors. We don't have many/any rugged wingers in the system. That is the big difference IMHO. You need both and would never say otherwise. Vs TB it was shown once again how important a good rugged checking line is.
I am and have been a fan of Mantha's from the beginning. I spent months before the draft hoping we would draft him. That being said he is a very good prospect. Nothing more at this time. Until he proves he can score in the NHL he will remain a prospect. There is however only 1 way for him to prove he is a NHL caliber player: Play NHL games. Sending him down when he was clearly helping us was a mistake. Our PP was much better with him on it. Then he goes down and we went 1 for 24 on the PP in the PO's. Now maybe we still struggle, maybe not. But to use the same guys that have sucked on the PP all year in the PO's and expect a different result is stupid. Plain and simple, Holland/Blashill screwed up.
Yes all prospects get overhyped before they actually play. Nature of the beast. Same is true with Larkin. We think/hope he will be a star someday, but as of now he is not. 2 years from now, maybe.
The one thing that does bother me with the RW's and Mantha is the negative comments in the press about him that haven't been said about others. The "spare forward" comment by Holland was flat out stupid. Jimmy D last year same thing. This hasn't happened with Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, Pulk, etc... Why are they doing this with Mantha? Maybe he is a kid that thrives on confrontation? Don't know. But some of this is bad management.
And Pulk destroyed AHL goalies. I think Mantha will be about as good as Nyquist, but he's not there yet. He wasnt ich more than a PP specialist. Had Trashill used his players better, they could have had a better chance without Mantha.
There are many differences between Pulk and mantha. The only thing Pulk brings is a great shot. He isn't big, or fast, or very skilled. He is a great shooter. That is easy to stop. Mantha brings much more than Pulk and more than most of our F's. He just needs game time. In a couple of years he will be better than Nyquist because he does so many things that Nyquist can't do.
Anyone see game 7 between Chicago - St.Louis? Did you catch how the Blues defender Pietrangelo played? Did he look exactly like someone that played on this team up to 2012 in his prime?
Land him and we have a replacement for nr 5. If I was Holland I'd at least explore the possibility. A little inquiry post-season.
No chance in hell they ever trade him. Just not worth the time to talk about. Now Shattenkirk on the other hand could be had for the right price. In some ways he fits our needs better being RHed to pair with Dekeyser.
Public support is often the death nail for coaches and GM's. That being said IF Holland wants to be aggressive, be careful what you wish for. I want moves yes, but these have to be the right moves. I fully understand that there are no sure things, but there are moves that increase the risks of failure. We have to avoid those at all costs.