Public support is often the death nail for coaches and GM's. That being said IF Holland wants to be aggressive, be careful what you wish for. I want moves yes, but these have to be the right moves. I fully understand that there are no sure things, but there are moves that increase the risks of failure. We have to avoid those at all costs.
The pieces don't matter, it was freeing up the money needed to resign his stars. So he shipped out a guy declining in production to do that. As we sit today we need at least 4 maybe 5 high end players and we don't ahve the money to do it. All of our money is tied up in old declinging vets that Holland will not move. Pick whatever names you want: Z, Kronwall, Ericsson, Howard, Green, etc....
There are plenty of positives you can take from a loss.
Rotating in rookies or substituting in a defenceman who hasn't played in almost a month - are desperate moves we don't need to make after a very close game 1. We aren't the 2008 versions of ourselves. We came in 8th place. We aren't supposed to win. Does Brendan Smith change all of that? The guy had 2 assists in the last 17 games he played.
When we win tonight with the exact same lineup - I can't wait to hear what Blashill should have done different to win by a higher margin.
Coached longer than many on this forum have been alive-over 20 years at all levels in many different sports. But that isn't the point.
You are right, we are not supposed to win, we finished 8th, and we are not going to win the SC. So why not play the youth and develop them instead of playing old and broken down playrs that are not going to be here next year? Bench Richards, Helm, Andersson, etc.... Play Mantha, Jurco, Pulks and anyone else that has a chance of helping us down the road. By playing those guys we learn what we have. Maybe they make it maybe they fail. But now the team knows what it has going forward.
Right now none of us know if Jurco, mantha, Pulk etc... are going to make it. They only way to find out is to play them. So now these guys are on the bench or in the minors and next fall when we have to count on them we don't know if they can produce.
I agree with you, despite my hilarious jokes about Andersson - he is surprisingly not our savior, or a Conn Smythe candidate at this point... Jurco is probably better suited for the 4th line especially because Andersson hasn't even been playing Center. That question comes down to Blashill's opinion of who is better defensively.
In terms of a rotating in Smith to jump start our team... We. Didn't. Play. A. Bad. Game.
We lost by a goal, to the defending Eastern Conference Champions in their building... We had 36 shots on goal, and a number quality scoring chances that could have easily gone in: I can think of Sheahan, Nyquist, Datsyuk, and Green missing the net on golden opportunities. If we play like that again tonight, we probably win - and If we did win on Wednesday, which was a hell of a lot better than the game 1 (we won) last year - this thread doesn't get to 9 pages.
WE. LOST. Close doesn't count. We lost to wounded team missing their 2 best players.
last nights game was a classic example of what we lack as a team and were we need to improve. Yes we started out ok. we were even or better than TB for the first 25-30 mins. Then we went downhill fast. Did Z, datsyuk, Nyquist, and Tatar even play in the game? Never heard their names mentioned other than when Tatar was about to get body slammed by Coburn. We were pushed around and treated roughly and other than Abby and DD-when he had no other choice, NO ONE ANSWERED!
Both int. the guys in the studio talked about needing to get someone in front of the net to pick up the rebounds and score. Of course they guy that could be doing that was sent down to GR "due to defensive issues". But it was Helm that was responsable for 2 of TB goals.
TB out skated us as well. This is a team that was missing their best F and best Dman. They still won, still out muscled us, and out skated us.
During the first int. the studio crew on FSD talked about the RW's need to find a way to work into the high traffic areas in front of Bishop. Just wondering whom the RW's have that could do that? Answer: He is in GR tonight.
In the 10 games that the wings played with Mantha in the lineup the record was 6 wins and 4 loses. In the 3 games since we stopped playing him we are 1-2.
Yes Mantha had a -6 in the 10 games he was here. 3 of that came in the 7-2 loss vs the Pens. Who were his line mates in that game? Datsyuk and Helm. All 3 of those guys were -3 for the game.
Helm is not nor has he ever been an offensive player. He has great speed and that is about it. His best goal total since turning pro was with the Griffins-16 goals in 1 year. His best in the NHL is 15 in a season. Helm is a 3rd/4th line checker and that is it. That is all he brings to the game. Now that is not a knock on Helm. he is very good at those things and every team needs people that can play that role. But Helm is not a top 6 forward in any way shape or form. To use him in that role only hurts the team.
Same is true with Glendening. A great checker. But neither should log top minutes.
You know what they call teams with guys like Helm and Glendening playing in their top 6? Expansion teams.
Do the Math - there are 60 Minutes in a game - how many minutes do 4th line players typically play? 7-10 Minutes is about the average.
This season, neither Helm or Sheahan have seen extended time on the 4th line - hence their MPG averages. Glendenning is our best penalty killer, and averaged a more reasonable amount of ice time because of it.
To put 3/4 of our most physical forwards (who all play Center) on the "4th line" is ridiculous, and a waste of time to discuss because it never has and never will happen lol.
To say that Mantha is better than Andersson is debatable, but those who have played hockey understand Anderson's superior defensive + faceoff ability (in relation to Mantha) make him a more valuable 4th line player. If Mantha failed to outscore Helm on Datsyuk's wing - which is statistically true - Helm is obviously the more valuable 2nd line player because of all of the other things he brings (Speed, Physicality, 2-way Ability, Creates space for Pav, Faceoff Ability etc.)
In terms of Anthanasiou - what makes you think he has the ability to play at the level we expect for more than his average of 9 MPG? He's an unproven commodity who has done well on a PPG basis considering his MPG, but it also isn't uncommon for players to lose their productivity when the minutes increase. Happens all the time.
Sorry WW, you are so lost I am not sure where to even begin. Bless your heart.
I don't get some of you guys dislike for Dekeyser. He is a legit 50 Dman in the NHL and by far the best we have. Is he a #1? No. But he is a #2. #2 Dmen make 6-7 million per year. You don't have to like that but that is the market rate and what he will get paid. We need to lock him up for the next 8 years and be happy we have him. Then go get him some help because this year he was largely doing it all by himself.