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#2358400 Trading Filppula

Posted by Richdg on 20 February 2013 - 04:56 PM

Yes he is off pace from last season, but so is everyone not names Zetterberg or Datsyuk.  Filppula is coming off a career best 66 points in 81 games, and you are saying all he would get us in return  is a middle of the road depth player or a mediocre prospect? Really? So lets say trading Filppula for Jordin Tootoo would have been an even swap?  Or lets say we trade Filpulla for TJ Hensick? Gimme a break guys, you really under value Val right about now. I am not saying you could get Shea Weber for  him, but he has more value than a mediocre prospect...expecially if you package Tatar and our 1st rounder which seems like it may be a top 15 the more I watch this team...maybe even a top 10.

NO!!!!!! Don't not trade away picks for this years draft! It is loaded! Pick up more picks for this eyars draft. Add young talent. There are several guys in this years draft that could walk onto the team right now and be in our top 3 players. Do not give that up! Add in the ages of datsyuk and Z, we have to find the next cornerstone(s) for the next 12-15 years. The only place that is possible is the draft. You can get good players via trade for the next 5-8 years, but not the next 15.

#2357484 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by Richdg on 19 February 2013 - 11:28 AM

Hindsight is always 20/20. There is no perfect GM in any sport anywhere. heck even fans can't agree on what type of players they want. Some like small speedy guys, other big power guys, others yet a mixture. Same thing with drafts. IIRC about 63% of first rounders become career NHL guys. That means they play more than 200 games. in the second round it drops to 25%. For the 3rd round on, it is only 12%. 1 out of 6 drafted players ever play more than 200 games in the NHL. Now those that become stars...... well it is a really small number.

Has Holland done things that I disagree with? Yup. has he done things I like? Yup. Point is, it is always a mixed bag. We were on top of the league for 20 years. To stay there we traded picks and young players. Now we are paying for it. Would I trade a single SC for 3 1st round picks today? hell no.

Now it is time to rebuild. This will take 2-3 years to do it right. No it will not be fun. But it is what it is. 

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#2356418 Notes from Saturday's practice

Posted by Richdg on 16 February 2013 - 03:04 PM

There have been very few times in my years as a Wings fan that I have either questioned Holland or Babs but this one just doesn't make much sense to me.  Nyquist hasn't been that great either but his up side over Dan Cleary right now is worth keeping him here for the time being.

Could it be, and i realize this is crazy, but maybe Nyquist isn't as good as some here think? After all he seems to have been passed by tatar. Let's face some possibilities here. Nyquist has been up a couple of different times. he hasn't been able to stay and beat out any one of several over the road has beens/never were's.

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#2356280 The Good, the Bad (or average), and the Ugly

Posted by Richdg on 15 February 2013 - 11:46 PM

Great movie.  Unfortunately, it's a misused and misunderstood title.  


Quincey belongs in the ugly part.  He's not scoring, not defending, not hitting, etc.  Getting paid well, though.  


Brunner should be in the good.  He's made some mistakes, but he's scoring and exceeding expectations.  

Brunner was -3 tonight.

Good: Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Ericsson

Bad (or average): Franzen, Filppula, Brunner, Quincey, Howard

Ugly: Cleary, Kronwall, White

These are the guys I expected things out of this year.

I guess you have to go back to before the season. What did you expect? I thought we were/are a slighly better than .500 team that would end up between 6th and 10th in the WC. Guess what. That is what we are. To "good" to be considered a bad team, but not good enough to hang with ethe top teams anymore.

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#2356265 Bertuzzi's continuing back problems

Posted by Richdg on 15 February 2013 - 11:22 PM

I work at a hospital. We get intractable back pain patients all the time. Usually when it's severe and sudden like this, it's from muscle spasm and there is no need for surgery. Usually goes away after a few days of heavy duty muscle relaxers. But who knows if that's the case here.

After wtaching tonights game, we all could use some of those pain killers.......

#2356264 Howard = Average

Posted by Richdg on 15 February 2013 - 11:18 PM

I guess we need a thread for each and every player. That way when they play well we can talk about their HOF career and when they play bad we can talk about how crappy they are.

As for Howard, not sure how much more he can do. If it wasn't for him we would have a losing record and be giving up 7 or 8 goals a game.

#2355259 2/13 GDT : St. Louis Blues 4 at Red Wings 3 (OT)

Posted by Richdg on 13 February 2013 - 10:15 PM

This was one of those games that drive you mad. We were off the last 2 days, so we were rested. Got off to a 2-0lead, then slowly and surely pissed it away. We didn't give up a lot of shots, nor did we take many. Just a flat game by the whole team.....

#2354336 Joakim Andersson Recalled

Posted by Richdg on 11 February 2013 - 11:11 PM

Ok, that's one stat but let's look at the rest of his play... Took a silly penalty, is a minus, has three giveaways and no takeaways and no shots on goal. He has potential but he is not NHL ready verses a solid role player who has a wicked wrister, some speed and is very effective on the PK.

Eaves was out of the line up with a serious concussion.....give the brother a minute!

Just wondering if he is still dealing with that to some degree. They do seem to be finding every reason to not play him.

#2350472 NHL rescinds match penalty to Blues' Backes

Posted by Richdg on 02 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

I will take the win, but man that was a bad call that gave us the game. 3-3 tie with 9 to go, and the refs gave us a 5 min PP on a phantom call. The down side is, sooner or later the same will happen to us.....

#2345859 worse before better.....

Posted by Richdg on 24 January 2013 - 01:27 PM

Notable teams currently out of a playoff spot.


Detroit Red Wings

Vancouver Canucks

Philadelphia Flyers

New York Rangers

Washington Capitals


By this logic, all of these teams are damned to having a terrible season, here's what I think we should do.


1) Watch hockey.


2) Repeat step 1 until 15-20 games into the season.


3) Use logic and see how teams are REALLY going to play the rest of the season after they actually play some hockey, get their bearings together from not playing in the NHL for so long, some not playing any hockey at all in 9 months, no preseason, and minimal training camps.


I've mentioned this before, look at the standings as we are 3 games into the season. The Flyers, Rangers, Canucks will in no way finish in the bottom of their respective conferences as they sit now, because determining the layout and future of a team this soon into the season is ridiculous. I'm not sure why this isn't understood better. This isn't the NFL where we play a dozen and a half games and even in a shortened season, starting 1-2-0 doesn't spell catastrophic scenario in my mind.

You don't need to watch 30 games to know and understand that the RW's are:

1. old

2. small

3. slow

4. have declining skills

5. injury prone.

All of which was true before the season, is true now, and will be true throughout the season, baring trade. Those 5 things together=average to poor team.


PS the other teams you mention are all bigger, younger, stronger, faster, equal or better skill and healthy. Those items combined = good to great team.

#2344782 Colaiacovo Out 3-4 Weeks with Shoulder Injury

Posted by Richdg on 22 January 2013 - 06:48 PM

To quote Cpt. renault..... "I am shocked to find out gambling is happeneing here!"........... "here are your winnings sir'.......

#2344547 Samuelsson out (groin), Nyquist up from GR

Posted by Richdg on 22 January 2013 - 01:38 PM

sammy should have never been signed, water under the bridge. gus needs to play, to see if he can play. IMHO Gus will be lucky to be a 40 point per season guy. He is very small and not very fast. yes he can handle the puck, but that is hard to do while you are laying on your backside.

#2316289 Dear Mr. Holland: Forget about FA, trade for Yandle and Ryan

Posted by Richdg on 06 July 2012 - 10:31 AM

Trades of course take value. But what is better? a 23 year old Smith that has played 14 career games, or a 25 year old Yandle who is an AS caliber Dman? if your team has cap issues, you may wish to stick with the younger unrpoven guy. We don't have cap issues. In this case i want the proven performer. If I could a do a Smith, Emmerton, Tatar for yndle trade, it would be done so fast peoples head would spin. Yes prospects are nice. But that is all they are: propects. There are no guarantees they will ever work out. Yandle has however PROVEN he can play at a very high level and is still very young.

#2308164 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by Richdg on 19 June 2012 - 10:49 PM

Things you know you will always get with Darren Helm:

1) Speed.
2) He will outwork anyone on the ice for either team.
3) He will kill penalties.
4) He will score the occasional goal.

Yes, 4 years for 2 million is a no-brainer for me. Helm has made himself untouchable on this team.

Untouchabe? That is a little much. Yes good checkers are always needed. But so are stars that can take your team to the promised land. A team of stars isn't going to get it done, nor is aa team fo checkers. But there are packages where helm could be moved. But we are talking about picking up stars. If the pens were to offer us Staal for helm and others, I would do it in a heartbeat. No, I am not saying we can do that, but as an example it mkes the point.

#2308153 Darren Helm signs 4 year extension

Posted by Richdg on 19 June 2012 - 09:51 PM

Forums are so damn funny. First glad helm is back. very good checker. But a month ago I said, and I quote "it is going to take around 8 million per season to resign Helm, Abdelkader, and Quincey". Everyone on this forum, and I do mean everyone said I was nuts. no way that was going to happen. Now after the first signing, its all "great deal" or "should be a bargin in 2-3 years" etc....