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#2613280 Time for an offer sheet?

Posted by Richdg on 05 June 2015 - 04:04 PM


Is Hamilton really worth $7M?  Blows my mind an RFA is commanding this type of money.  I knew he was good, but not *that* good.

Petry just got 5.5 million per to resign. Hamilton is a much better player and younger than Petry. One is a 25 point per year RHed D and the other is a 40+ point per year RHed D. 6 years difference in age as well. No one is worth it, but that is the market.

With the expected cap increase and LTIR for Savard, they'll have about $10-11M in space. Tight but I still bet they'd match. Most of the spots they have to fill can be filled cheaply. Plus they could opt to move Lucic and/or Eriksson.


Moot point though, as we do not have our 3rd rounder in 2016. We'd have to trade for that pick back (not just any third, our own) before we could even submit an offer.

That is correct. Holland has 25 days to work out a deal with NJ to get our 2016 pick back. That is all it would take. A Tvrdon for the pick type of deal should make it happen.


But lets dream for a minute.....






That is a very good BL corp and we would still have more BL prospects coming and all of our best F prospects. Not to mention about 10 million more in cap space after trading KFQ.

#2610044 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by Richdg on 25 May 2015 - 12:50 PM


I disagree. He won't make the team out of camp, but we might seem him join the team later in the season, possibly as a winger. He's an exceptional skater; he plays a remarkably mature, rounded 200-foot game; he's got a good frame for an 18-year-old; and his vision, smarts, hockey IQ, playmaking ability are all commendable. While NCAA hockey isn't AHL hockey, killing it as a freshman like Larkin did is extremely impressive and bodes well for his adjustment to the pro game. This is a kid who just played for the USA in the IIHF World Championship as an 18-year-old, the only other 18-year-old on the roster being Jack Eichel. This is a kid without any true holes in his game or even areas of concern. He's not a project. He has to bulk up, has to get used to the grind of the pro schedule, has to make all the necessary adjustments that every player in his situation has to make - but I don't think the adjustment period will be a long one, maybe not even a full season. This is one of the ten best NHL prospects.

Going from a 35-40 game college schedule to a 75-80 game pro schedule is a huge step. Going from amatuer hockey to pro hockey is another huge step-something that AA and Mantha just reminded us. Both tore up junior last year and neither even scored 20 goals this year for GR. It takes time for guys to develop. The question is, how much? Could all 3 make it to detroit next year? yes. But I am not going to hold my breath. All should get there but all have things to do before they make it. Larkin needs to add 20 pounds of muscle. That is hard to do in one summer. Come 2016 he should be ready. Also, there is no need to rush him. We have a ton of C already: Datsyuk, Z, Sheahan, Helm, Glendening, Abby, Andersson, etc... are all natural C men. Even if Weiss is moved/cut we still have 6 on the team.

#2609478 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by Richdg on 21 May 2015 - 02:39 PM

Glad he is begining his pro hockey career. Give him a nice taste of what it is like. But let's not go overboard. The step from amatuer hocey to pro hockey is huge. Mantha reminded us of that agian this year. Let him develop on his pace, not ours as fans. If he goes to GR and dominates, GREAT! If it takes him a season or 2 to develop, no problem.

#2609263 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by Richdg on 20 May 2015 - 10:41 PM

Yes it is a 99% chance that Blashill is next. That could be good or bad. Never been a NHL head coach. The only other guy of interest would be Dan Bylsma-another Michigan guy with a career winning % of .628 which is better than Babcock (.620)! Both guys are in their early 40's.


Now I do have a question for those that question what Babs meant to this team. How many guys were under acheiving? Very few. Most of our players were play at or above their talent levels. Yes Franzen, Smith, and Jurco can and should be doing more, but that is it. Now keep in mind we had to win our last 1 or 2 games each of the last few years to even make the playoffs. That was due to Babs. he got us there. Can the next coach-whomever it ends up being, keep doing that?

#2607141 Free agents this off season

Posted by Richdg on 11 May 2015 - 09:53 AM

Those trades happened ages ago and besides a few of them none were big names that were big cornerstones in teams winning cups

All the teams that won the cups drafted the core guys .... And teams haven't been trading big name stars for years now and no big name ufa guys have been hitting the market for years as well

Times have changed man ... We signed weiss and traded for cole and zidlicky didn't work

If your willing to trade mantha athanasiou larkin holmstrom mrazek bertuzzi for non elite stars who will be ufa's in 3 years then I thank f***en god your not our gm

Alot of utube who had great junior careers never produced at the nhl level ... A few 60 pt seasons in Florida was nothing to get excited about when we landed him , injury or not

Sorry if I pissed you off with the idiots stuff but I got a lot worse s*** from people when I hated the signing when it happend

And as for vermette yes there's more to a players game than points but I'm pretty sure the hawks didn't get him to not produce on the scoresheet just like the rangers did with yandle ... When you give up a high price they did for a player I'm sure there expecting points as well as good overall play

Yes those trades happened BEFORE each of those teams won the SC. Its called building a team. Something we haven't been doing. We have been static for years now. The UFA market is dead, which means we have to trade and draft. Just drafting isn't enough. Many of those guys were also key players on their teams to win. Carter for example is LAK best and most consistant offensive threat. Chara, Boychek, and seidenberg are/were bostons top 3 Dmen. Sharp, Hossa, and Versteeg were dominate players for the Blackhawks. The Pens were the only team with limited outside players on their team. Of course we haven't talked about the Rangers yet. But they haven't won a cup yet either.....

#2607076 2015 Draft

Posted by Richdg on 10 May 2015 - 09:20 PM




Meloche sounds intriguing...

He would be the D I would take. While we have lots of D prospects, only 3 are RHed and one of those Marchenko should be in Detroit next season. As Zidlicky reminded everyone, having RHed Dmen on the point does matter.

#2606636 DRW Free Agents / Salary Thread

Posted by Richdg on 07 May 2015 - 09:09 PM

Babcock is defense first coach. There is a reason for the saying "defense wins championships". because it is true. If the other team doesn't score you have greatly increased your chances to win. His focis is winning game 2-1 or 1-0. Go back the this past Olympics. Team full of the worlds best players and they played a puck control defense first system.

This was also Bowman's system. The left wing lock is all about reducing scoring. he threatened to tradeStevie Y if he didn't start to play d. Federov was the same way. Which is why he went from 120 point seasons to 80 point seasons.

Now if you are playing a defensive system to win, wouldn't you want to play the best defensive forwards? yes. Why have Z and Dat been stars for so long? Yes they score, but they are great defensively.

Now look at our prospects and their development. What part of the game takes the longest to develop? defense. What have most on this site complianed about? Our prospects "overripening" in the minors. What are they learning to do? It isn't offense, it is D. That is Babs/Hollands plan. Play good D or don't play here. IE Hudler and many others.

#2606019 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by Richdg on 04 May 2015 - 09:12 PM

Calling him out like that is 1. Unnecessary and 2. Embarrassing guy came back after a broken leg and went into his first pro season. Heck I'd trade Nyquist, Tatar before trading Mantha guy has the size and skill to become a power forward.

True, but we have to remember. Kenny prefers his forwards to be 5-10/180 and from docile socialist countries.......LOL. This makes it easier for him to make a trade for a 37+ year old pending UFA.......

#2578966 Anthony Mantha

Posted by Richdg on 05 March 2015 - 11:03 AM

The light looks to finally be on. mantha has scored in 3 of his last 4 games with the griffins. 4 points in that stretch. Has 12 goals and a good chance to get to 20 in his first year of pro hockey. Not a bad start. Not the explosive start we all wished for, but solid none the less.

#2568656 2/5 GDT - Red Wings 3 at Avalanche 0

Posted by Richdg on 05 February 2015 - 09:18 PM

A fight! Brings back such good memories..........

#2568091 2015 Draft

Posted by Richdg on 03 February 2015 - 08:32 PM

Yes we drafted a lot of F's last year. But it is still a bit more of a need than D. But we also have to keep value in mind. Most of the F's in the area of the draft we should be picking seem to have higher upsides than the Dmen do.

No of course if we move up or down in the order that can and will impact things. Same is true with trades. if we have to move say 2 of our top D prospects to pick up a top 4 RHed D, that changes the needs overnight. The pick could also be moved-even though Holland says he will not.


Another thing to keep in mind is the overall quality of the draft. Not as good as 2013 was equal-maybe slightly better than 2014, but 2016 looks to be better than this year.

If we go forward 5-6 years, what would be the best possible lineup?





McKee (I know....)-Glendening-Abby

Miller-Little Tuzzi









#2557757 Andreas Athanasiou

Posted by Richdg on 19 December 2014 - 08:03 PM

AA is out with a broken jaw....... for a while.

#2551691 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by Richdg on 24 November 2014 - 09:00 PM

He is just like Shanny offensively. Shanny was not a banger, he stayed in good shooting positions so he could shoot. Most of his career he averaged less than 1 hit per game. Which makes sense-you don't want your high end shooters in the corners, you want them in front of the net somewhere to get their shots off. Yes Shanny was much more willing to drop the gloves than Mantha ever has been. But then again Mantha is a better skater than Shanny was.


now who makes it up first? The RW's said all summer that Mantha was going to be given every chance to make the roster coming out of camp. At no point did they ever say that about Pulks. Now Pulks is a RHed shooting winger that scored 30 goals last year. Yet the guy with 0 professional games was going to be given the chance. Why?


I was one and remain a guy that believes if we are going to make a deal, Tatar is the guy to be moved. Value for value. tatar is the most limited overall of all the young F's that have made it to date. That is not saying I dislike him. But to get a legit front of net forward or a good puck moving RHed Dman you have to give up something. No one is going to give us a star for table scraps.

#2551455 Mantha getting closer.

Posted by Richdg on 24 November 2014 - 09:08 AM

Mantha will move up before Pulks because he does things that Pulks can't due to size. I like Pulks but he is one of about 8 guys that fit the "small scoring euro" description. How many do we have the fit the "power forward" description? No one other than Mantha. Please don't even try to put franzen in that group....

But Mantha needs a good 15-20 AHL games first. 2 reasons: 1 to develop and 2 so I have time to get down and watch him! LOL


As for Mantha dropping the gloves, 1 word: Shanahan.

#2550732 In an odd way.....

Posted by Richdg on 21 November 2014 - 09:22 AM

Because it is early in the season, in an odd way I actually look forward to Griffins games more than RW games atm. It is the young talent - Mantha that I am really looking forward to watching. Hell I don't even care about the Griffs record. Just that Mantha, Pulk, Oullett, Sproul, AA, etc... have good games. Of course if they all are, the record will take care of itself. If we can find 2-3 more studs like Mantha over the next couple of years, then by 2020 we will be legit SC contenders again.