You seem to be missing my point entirely, I already conceded that the best elite talent would come from the CHL.
What I'm saying is that the top NCAA teams like the 2005/2006 University of North Dakota would mop the floor with Sidney Crosby's Rimouski Oceanic, despite the fact that the best player on either team would be playing for Rimouski.
The talent in the CHL gets spread out by the draft process, and even the best teams are lucky to have a couple elite talents with the rest of the team made up with 16-19 year old kids. With the recruiting process in NCAA sports the best programs almost always get the best talent available and the remainder of their teams are normally fully grown men in their mid 20's.
If Tootoo does drop the gloves it will probally be against clune
Clune is wearing a shield to cover up stitches he got recently, he won't be fighting anyone any time soon
Wow. So much to take in there. If you really think Tootoo is the "hardest hitting forward in the league", or "one of the top middleweight" fighters, I need you to take an elementary physics class and then maybe we can talk. I suppose you also think that Cal Clutterbuck is an "elite power forward" because he leads the league in "hits" every year.
A "hit" is supposed to be scored as initiating physical contact that dislodges the puck from the puck carrier. Guys like Tootoo and Clutterbuck throw themselves around and look good on TV to fans raised on "Slap Shot", but running guys behind the play is gratuitous and really pretty irrelevant to the scoreboard. Yes, it makes the fans in the arena go "ooh" and "ahh", the same way people gasp when a runaway car drives through a farmer's market.
Tootoo had 6 goals in 77 games last year and was a HEALTHY SCRATCH in the Playoffs. Prior to last season, he never had more than TWELVE assists in an NHL season. Go look at the list of guys that had more goals than him from the 2011-12, and that $1.9 million AAC starts to make you feel sick a little. We didn't need THIS guy to have a tough hockey team. Pre-staged fights by a guy who was brought in to be a circus act to improve team morale, and he isn't even in the right "weight class" to fight anyone of significance.
I can't argue with people about "my hockey knowledge" when the person telling me I'm an idiot would rather watch fighting and general douchebaggery than the actual sport of hockey.
He didn't say Tootoo is the most frequent hitter or the best hitter he said he was one of the "hardest hitters". Tootoo absolutely fits that description, in one of the most recent player polls he was voted by the players as the 2nd hardest hitter in the league behind only Chara. Tootoo was the best signing the team made in the offseason and IMO he's been the best player in our bottom 6 so far as well.
The hit itself doesn't have to create the turnover. if in anticipation of the hit, a player makes a rushed inaccurate pass ending in a turnover the result is the same as if the hit caused the turnover..
Tootoo causes defenders to make plays far quicker than they want to, and is easily our best fore-checker. You may not like physical hockey but don't deny its effectiveness...just look at what almost every team does to the Wings defence.
Look, I still think the Wings will make the playoffs but that's what scares me. Obviously Holland would think nothing is broken and go into next season with the same roster with minor tweaks. Its almost like maybe missing the playoffs would make them rethink about their roster. After 20 years of greatness, its gonna take alot to get a stubborn Holland and Co. to really blow up the roster from older players.
The only way this roster is going to be "blown Up" is if Holland, Nill and Devellano are all fired and even then its a longshot to happen this offseason. Missing the playoffs for one season won't change the teams philosophy. The only thing that will change if the Wings do miss is that we'll get a better draft pick that will still end up playing at least 1 season in Grand Rapids before making the roster.
I don't really get why everyone thinks that getting younger is going to improve our fortunes, we have 5 rookies playing right now and the team is performing worse than when we had all the veterans playing. Other than Tatar, and Lashoff (on some nights) none of the rookies have been better than the guys they are replacing.
We just have a couple guys who are making a tremendous amount of mistakes that keep costing the team goals. Kronwall in my opinion needs to be played on the 2nd pairing, or even 3rd. He can't defend the oppositions best players and he keeps screening our own goalie. Cleary should be either in the pressbox or on the 4th line, he has no business being on the PP or anywhere near the top 6.
Where to start...I'm assuming to do this you've gone back in time to last years Free Agency period and not signed anyone of the guys that we did. Conceding that here are some problems I have with your roster.
A goaltending tandem that was average in the AHL, led by a 21 year old with 1 game of NHL experience and backed up by a guy who should be playing for Toledo.
over 40% of our cap space spent on 3 players, none of which worth anywhere near 9 million dollars a season.
No depth whatsoever...every injury would require a FA signing, which we couldn't do because of lack of cap flexibility.
What happened to half the roster? you can only buy out 2 guys, did Abdelkader, Eaves, Quincey, Bertuzzi, Samuelsson, Miller, White, Kindl and Mursak all retire