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#2385397 Mike McKee

Posted by FlashyG on 16 April 2013 - 03:48 PM

USHL is the equal to CHL. Better than the WHL but slightly behind the other 2. Just not as many teams. USHL is very very good.


The USHL is nowhere near as good as the CHL. There is a debate to be had between the CHL and the NCAA, but the not when it comes to the USHL, its not even close.


Top American prospects generally avoid the league all together. 

#2384981 nhl.com calls Kenny the best GM

Posted by FlashyG on 15 April 2013 - 12:45 AM

The argument "Ken Holland doesn't suck because there are GMs who suck more" doesn't work.


If people are going to credit him for the old system's success, then you can give credit to Shero for constructing a team for the new system.


Holland has been an abject failure since the cap was implemented; I refuse to credit the 2008 championship to him considering something close to 60% of that team was Hakan Andersson finds.


The new system had nothing to do with Shero constructing his team in fact Ray Shero had little to do with constructing that team, being terrible for a long period of time constructed that team for him. He took over a team that had selected in the top 5, 5 years in a row, with 4 of them being in the top 2. The biggest adversity he's had to face was a problem of his own making when he had to trade Staal away because he couldn't fit all his top 5 picks under the salary cap. Let's see him rebuild the team when those players start retiring, and have him do so without the luxury of having any top 15 draft picks and without missing the playoffs. Maybe then he can start being compared to Holland.

Also if Holland doesn't get any credit for the teams draft choices because he employs a scout who recommends which players to pick, then no team's GM should ever get credit for a draft choice. They all employ scouts.


Below is a list of players drafted while Holland was in charge of amateur scouting. If I follow your logic Holland should get credit for the cups in 97, 98 and 2002 since he drafted the core of those teams. He also made several trades in those years that provided key parts to those cup winning teams.


Yves Racine

Sheldon Kennedy

Mike Sillinger

Nicklas Lidstrom

Sergei Fedorov

Dallas Drake

Vladimir Konstantinov

Keith Primeau

Slava Kozlov

Jason York

Martin Lapointe

Jamie Pushor

Chris Osgood

Mike Knuble

Darren McCarty

Dan McGillis

Anders Eriksson

Mathieu Dandenault

Tomas Holmstrom

Holland is the best GM in the history of the franchise, arguably the best in the history of the NHL, and a guaranteed first ballot Hall of Fame Inductee.

#2381309 Concerned - we might not make it in to the playoffs

Posted by FlashyG on 06 April 2013 - 12:53 AM

Draft well? Nill admitted that drafting Pavel wasn't some stroke of drafting acumen, but in fact dumb luck. As Mickey says 5 times a game 'Sometimes its better to be lucky then to be good'. For every gem you give me I can show you how other teams have done the same, maybe not with 6th or 7th round picks, but with picks after the 2nd round (which just about every scout will admit anything after the 60th pick is a crap shoot). 

This isn't any new data but it shows the odds you have of drafting a successful player based on your position in the draft between Holland's first year as GM until 2005. To be considered a top player in this chart you have to play at least 200 NHL games with a PPG average at or above .5 PPG.

The second chart is Holland/Nill's success in the draft compared to the rest of the league.
Basically what it shows is that during that time period the Wings were better than the league average in every single slot, but more than twice as likely to land a top player past the 101st pick in the draft. They were also an astounding 7 times better than the league average drafting between 51 and 100.
Some of that might be luck, but 7 times better has to have some skill involved as well. Credit where credit is due, our management team's preference of skill over being NHL ready has paid dividends for this team over the years.

#2380046 Holland retirement watch?

Posted by FlashyG on 03 April 2013 - 11:29 PM

What comment was that?

He said the owners were ranch owners and players and employees like himself were the cattle, and without the ranch owners they'd be out of work.
Conveniently when the comment was printed by most media outlets or read out on TV they left off the tidbit where he refers to himself as cattle and edited it so it looks like he was only referring to the players.
I doubt Ownership felt embarrassed by it at all, in fact I think every owner out there was probably nodding in agreement. Illitch probably even paid the fine for him.

#2379624 Nyquist, Tatar, dekeyser

Posted by FlashyG on 03 April 2013 - 02:40 PM

Because as good as Nyquist and Tatar are offensively they are still prone to rookie mistakes, same goes for the rest of the rookies in the line-up. I think using a roster of half rookies is a recipe for disaster defensively.


The reason those guys are playing with Datsyuk is because they are better playing along the boards than our rookies and someone needs to go to those areas to get the puck for Datsyuk.


Everyone is freaking out because we didn't trade several roster players for Gaborik, when he has 1 more goal than Dan Cleary this season.


I wish Wings fans could just enjoy what they have for once instead of falling victim to greener grass syndrome

#2379593 Nyquist, Tatar, dekeyser

Posted by FlashyG on 03 April 2013 - 02:29 PM

How many rookies do you guys want to play?


We already have Lashoff, Brunner, Nyquist, Smith, and Andersson playing regularly, with Dekeyser about to join that group shortly. That's 1/3 of the playing roster. 


The only Griffin who should be with the Wings is Tatar and if he comes back it will be at the expense of Nyquist most likely.

#2379086 Ryan Sproul to play with the Griffins for the rest of the year

Posted by FlashyG on 02 April 2013 - 11:55 PM

I'm as high on Sproul as any prospect in our system but he still has a long way to go before playing for the Wings.


He struggles with Defence in the OHL, even jumping to the AHL i expect him to make ample mistakes leading to a  lot of -'s.


I do think his offence is unlike any defenceman we have at any level of our system though, he will quarterback the PP and put up pts even if he gives up a few going the other way. I think he'll be much improved next year if he's paired with a strong defensive guy like Ouellet. 


Next year is going to be a big one for Grand Rapids, although they will probably be hurt up front losing Nyquist, Tatar and Andersson (Hopefully)

#2378866 Official NHL Trade Deadline thread

Posted by FlashyG on 02 April 2013 - 05:34 PM

3, second round picks from a team that is the lowest scoring in the league for a guy who has 0 goals this year.


This solidifies in my mind that we should be selling right now. The prices are too outrageous to be looking to add to our team.

#2378860 An interesting point about our apparent deadline strategy

Posted by FlashyG on 02 April 2013 - 05:29 PM

Let's look at the top teams that appear to have a roster deep enough to make a run for the Cup.


From the West:

Blackhawks: Kane, Toews, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, Sharp.

Canucks: Sedins 1 and 2, Kesler, and a group of solid-to-good defensemen. 

Ducks: Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan, Selanne.

Wild: Koivu, Heatley, Parise, Suter. 

Kings: Kopitar, Brown, Richards, Carter, Doughty, Quick.


From the East:

Penguins: Crosby, Malkin, Iginla, Kunitz, Neal, Letang.

Bruins: Bergeron, Horton, Krejci, Seguin, Lucic, Marchand, Chara.

Rangers: Callahan, Gaborik, Nash, Richards, Mcdonagh, Lundqvuist. 


For the Red Wings?


Datsyuk, Zetterberg,...


Our big guys need help. Datsyuk can't carry the entire team himself. No one can.  It's a team sport, and we don't have a solid team as a whole. Our bottom six can compete with most any other team. 


Our top six struggles. If we ice a line of Dats, Z, and (insert body here) like we used to, we've got a soft second line. We need a solid scoring top 6 player. Vanek, Gaborik, Eriksson, Ryan. Any of those guys would help, just to name a few possible options (pipe dreams?). We have two solid centermen! Then need a bit of help, though. 


On defense? Kronwall is not a #1 defenseman. He could be a great #2. But he needs someone there to make him better. Yandle? Myers? Either would help immensely. Whichever one would give us something to build around in the back end, while what we have currently are a bunch of good blocks with no cornerstone.


Sorry for the uber-long post. Hope it made at least some sense! 


I think you're drastically undervaluing some of the Wings players in order to make this list.


Both Franzen and Brunner have produced at essentially equal or better rates than many players on your list including, Heatley, Selanne, Hossa, Sharp, Carter, Brown, Richards, Iginla, Horton, Lucic, Callahan, Gaborik and Richards.


Offensively Kronwall has outplayed every defenceman on your list but Suter and Letang. Kronwalls deficiency is his defence, and the 2 guys you suggest acquiring are actually worse defensively than he is.


Then in net you list Quick who has the worst Sv% of all starting goalies in the entire league, and who trails Howard in every single goalie stat.


Detroits list of depth should read


Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Kronwall, Brunner and Howard.


Still isn't likely to get us the cup, but definitely better than you make it seem.

#2378694 Ericsson for Courturier?

Posted by FlashyG on 02 April 2013 - 01:29 PM

ya VERY LOW :sigh:  He dominated the world juniors and gave some stellar performances .... hes playing great in the ahl in his first season , played great in his first nhl game and he just turned 21 .... hes way ahead of what jimmy howard was when he was this age your fooling yourself if you say otherwise


an elite goalie is a goalie who is the most valuable player to there team , he takes his team to the next level and can win series by themselves (lundqvist,renne) howard is good and hes more important to our success with lidstrom gone  but datsyuk/zetterberg is more valuable to us and howard hasnt won any series for us by himself and mrazek has that ability

Lets dial back the hysteria around Mrazek a bit here, he's a good prospect but at this point he's nowhere near the level of Jimmy Howard and we'd be lucky if he ever is.


Playing great at the World Juniors isn't any sort of guarantee that you'll be able to do the same in the NHL especially as a goalie. The World Junior top goalie list is littered with guys who had absolutely no success in the NHL.


What we've seen of Mrazek at the NHL level has only told us one thing definitively, and that is he is not NHL ready yet.

He was ok in his first outing but faced very little in the way of difficult shots, then he was subpar in his second game before being returned to the minors. He hasn't played a single playoff game at any professional level, he didn't steal any series in the OHL, he stole 1 game in the World Juniors but didn't lead his team to any sort of medal and he hasn't won anything at the AHL level yet either so I'm not sure how you can classify him as someone who has the ability to steal a series.


I'm against trading him too, mostly because we lack depth in net throughout the organization but lets see how he develops for a few years before we anoint him the savior of the franchise.

#2376748 3/31 GDT: Blackhawks 7 Red Wings 1

Posted by FlashyG on 31 March 2013 - 11:26 AM


#2376587 FlashyG's GDT Photoshops

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#2376569 Larry Murphy Fired by FSD

Posted by FlashyG on 30 March 2013 - 07:09 PM

you have realize that all you redmond/murphy lovers are super homer fans. I mean you all frequent red wings message boards. I honestly could care less about their stupid 'back in my day' stories, the rediculous homerisms. The lack of objectivism, both LOVE fighting, the hatred of all penalties that meant to protect players (even when 10% of the NHL is injured). It'd be nice to have someone on the telecast with an opposite opinion, a little bit of devils advocate.


I never disliked either of them, but they are both not great broadcasters. FSD probably thought it would be better to keep one rambling former player, and then try to get someone more professional, someone with opposing opinions. Clearly redmond is the better of two.


I watch a lot of tsn, sportsnet and CBC. And all those telecasts blow what FSD throws out there.


I also watch a lot of TSN, Sportsnet and CBC and I don't think the gap between them and Detroits crew is that large.


They are all guilty of some of the very things you're complaining about regarding Redmond.


When Pierre McGuire is on TSN he spends half the game prattling on about the Junior program that every player on either team came from, he often celebrates physical play (labeling those players his Monsters) and many of their on air personalities openly complain about the #'s of penalties called.


CBC's crews are blatantly homers unless they are calling a game involving 2 Canadian teams. They will applaud the odd good play of a visiting team or highlight a player, but will still openly complain about any calls going against the Canadian team. They also employ a large # of former players who are constantly arguing over one another making it impossible to get any information of value out of the broadcast. As far as their love of physical play and hatred of penalties, they continue to employ Don Freaking Cherry. 


Sportsnet though is far worse than anything you'll ever see on any Fox Sports Broadcast. The last Oilers game I watched their crew spent half the game talking about their sons Midget games, right down to showing a team photo and giving shout outs to many of the team members and their families.


Honestly I don't know how you can level those kind of accusations and Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond and then hold up a broadcast that features Joe Bowen as an example to follow.

#2375689 time to trade filppula?

Posted by FlashyG on 28 March 2013 - 11:34 PM

Unless Datsyuk tells management he's going to re-sign or a trade offer comes along offering us a center Flip will almost certainly be re-signed.


We'll need a 2nd line center while Jarnkrok develops if Datsyuk heads home.


We can't rely on picking one up in UFA especially when Flip would likely be the best center available.

#2375346 Dreger: Wings 'very interested' in Bouwmeester *merged*

Posted by FlashyG on 28 March 2013 - 06:00 PM

just heard dreger say on tsn that wings want bouwmeester and now flames will want more for bouwmeester because they got robbed by the iginla deal and theyll want a young goalie to start either mrazek of patterson


if we trade away mrazek im gonna flip man! hes future star , i always joke with my friends that we got the future hasek (they always saying how wings are done and were rebuilding soon ... little do they know )


This is great news for the Wings.


If Calgary is increasing their demands for Jbo it increases the chance that the Wings walk away from the deal entirely and that is a win for the Wings.


He isn't worth the contract he's signed to, if you want Bouwmeester it would be better to wait and sign him as a FA to a much smaller cap hit.