As long as he never see's the ice in a Wings jersey again I'm all for keeping him in Grand Rapids.
Having gone through the amount of struggles he did as a kid entering the league I think he would be an excellent mentor for the prospects teaching them what it takes to be a pro hockey player.
As much as I hated seeing him on the ice the last couple years the one thing I can't take away from him is his effort, the guy works as hard as anyone on the ice and if he can instill that in a kid like Mantha he'll be damn near unstoppable at the NHL level.
all of them. None of them helped us win a Cup...i am all for signing him to develop in GR, but we have no room for another undrafted European experiment on the big club. I'd rather give the spot to Mantha.
Considering his agent said the reason he signed with us is to develop like Jurco did under Blashill I don't think you need to worry about him taking a spot on the big club.
He'll make Grand Rapids a better club next season.
Did you know that Ekblad is the first defenseman to be granted exceptional status and compete in the CHL a year before eligable age. Tavares was given the same status in 2005. Zetterberg has a few more season's in him at most, if his back will not force him into early retirement, that is.
Ekblad is an awesome prospect but he also plays the toughest position to transition to the pro game in.
There are all kinds of highly touted defenceman who have fizzled out without reaching their potential, and its a position we are deepest in prospect wise.
If we had the 1st overall pick I wouldn't hesitate to take him but that's entirely different than trading away our best player for the right to pick him. We'd be making a far bigger hole than we're fixing.
Some people let their fandom bias get in the way of actually thinking.
I for one would rather trade our first and a few players to get someone good. I'd still like to win soon not five or seven years from now....but that's where holland is half assing it and needs to make up his mind.
Holland has made up his mind...he just made a decision you don't like. He's not going all in to win right now, he's banking on the prospects keeping us contenders long term.
Whether he's right or not only time will tell.
Personally I think this is the worst draft in years to trade up in..I'd rather trade down or trade away the 1st round pick. Buffalo has 3, 2nd round picks I'd rather get them if we're looking to deal.
I'd do it, and I dont think it would be very crazy. Zetterberg is nearing the end of his career and Ekblad is a possible franchise defenseman.
It would be utter insanity.
Ekblad may not even be the first defenceman taken in this draft, or the one with the most successful career. If he's lucky he'll become a top pairing defenceman, but he's far from a Franchise player.
Yes in a way you can. I'm not saying go capitals be all offense by any means. BUT. Having a couple guys who focus in and excel in offense would be good. If be ok if some didn't play defense but was consistently scoring 35-40+ goals every year. We NEED one guy like that.
Also IF and for the sake of the wings I HOPE SO but IF actually lives up to his contract and is a 2c spezza can then be a winger for us.
Of all the guys rumored to be available he clearly makes the most sense. Hell I'd be ok with Alfie back then. Alfie Weiss and spezza as number two line is good. Meaning nyquist or Franzen is on number 1 and other on third. It's a move that not only helps us and gives us insurance now but can help us down the road if he gets an extension.
And I assume 5-10 teams don't or can't get him on his list so here's to hoping a 1-10 chance!!!!
What good is a guy who scores 35-40 goals a year if he's on the ice for 70-75 against?
I'd rather the guy who scores 20 but is a plus player, especially when you're talking about a center.
I'm not opposed to going after Spezza but he'll have to drastically change his game to fit into Babcock's system..
Yeah but of that 5-10 teams, Detroit joins that list the minute Bryan Murray asks for a roster player... damnit Kenny
Murray traded Heatley before for Cheechoo and Michalek, so we could do something like Weiss and Franzen, players past their prime who (could) find their groove. Franzen is familiar with Paul MacLean as well. Doesn't seem like a great deal but Murray isn't a great GM, he just might bite on this. Ottawa needs roster players not more prospects
Nobody is going to take Weiss under any circumstances, nor are the Wings looking to deal Franzen.
Ottawa wants a 1st, a roster player and a prospect for Spezza.
Well it seems odd that when holland would pull the trigger at the deadline we would make deep runs to the playoffs and to the finals. Made it with Hossa, drake, hasek, hull, and shanny. Grant it, those previous years they could spend money forever, but acquiring serious skill at the deadline seems to be working. And none of those guys you mentioned have exactly been tearing it up in the nhl yet. Bertuzzi? Really? He hasn't even been called up yet.
I'm just really irritated with the way they have been running things the past few years. Paying old washed up guys, not making trades, not spending all their cap space. Over paying for guys or handing out too long of a contract. It's just ridiculous. Hollands plan for keeping things going sounds a lot like just keeping up appearances and strategizing to have one really good season every 5 or 6 years and they are getting their asses handed to them by the bruins, hawks, and hell, they could hardly beat the coyotes this past year. It just seems like a lot of mediocrity for a very proud franchise and fan base.
I'm starting to wonder if you even watch the same team as me.
Absolutely none of those guys were deadline pick-ups. Shanahan and Hasek were trades but they happened very early in the season. The rest were off-season Free Agent signings.
We spent to the cap this past season, and while we got handled pretty easily by Boston, we gave Chicago all they could handle last season and were a Danny Dekeyser Injury away from potentially adding another cup. It's also been 4 years since we played Phoenix in the playoffs and we swept them then, so I'm not sure what you're talking about there.
Back to our deadline moves, Holland pulled the trigger on one this past deadline and it's been the most commonly criticized move he's made in years (besides re-signing Cleary).
No, but there is Ericsson, dekeyser, quincey. And I don't mind giving up second or third rounders. How many of those have worked out recently anyway? I remember seeing a thread with a post about how guys that we have passed up on in the draft have turned out a lot better than the guys the wings picked.
Ericsson, Dekeyser and Quincey are not Jack Johnson type defencemen. Especially not the calibre he was when he was traded.
We also don't have the 8th overall pick to offer.
As far as how many 2nd and 3rd round picks have worked out...in the Wings case the answer would be many. Ouellet, Sproul, Jurco, Tatar, Bertuzzi, Nastasiuk, Janmark etc.
Just because better people have been passed over doesn't mean we didn't get good players with our selections.
Hats off to the Kings for their success, but we don't need to emulate every team that wins the cup...The Wings system has been proven successful too.
Just because he is scoring in juniors doesn't mean he will make it in the NHL. Let's see how he's does with the big boys first.
I still think he is a 4th liner at best.
Its just like mantha yes I think he will be good. But I don't think he should make the jump to nhl to start the year. Maybe like halfway through but not to start. I wanna see how he does in the ahl(and I can watch him a lot live then to!).
Nothing he said was inaccurate.
He said the Wings future was full of potential...Not full of NHL 1st liners.
Just because they have potential doesn't mean they will all reach it.
Right now the Wings prospect pool is ranked 3rd in the NHL, not bad for a team that has picked in the top 20 only twice in the past couple decades.