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#2567232 Marchenko recalled from GR... Ouellet sent down

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on Yesterday, 09:06 PM

The mindset around here is that Doan is their Yzerman, which makes me :lol:

But that's how they feel. Immediate jersey retirement, job in the front office, etc. whatever.

I would salivate over OEL in a Wings jersey though. Kid's the real deal.


#2566517 1/27 GDT : Red Wings 5 at Panthers 4

Posted by Jersey Wing on 27 January 2015 - 10:21 PM

SEXY!

 

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#2566157 Give Patrick Hersley a shot?

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 January 2015 - 02:25 PM

What is this fixation in pointing out that so and so didn't play in Europe so it's not the same situation?... The point is that every player develops at a different pace, some much later than others. To go along with the generalization that you're using in saying that he won't make it because so and so didn't make it taking the same route, you're now saying that European's in general don't want to play third pairing minutes in the NHL, and that they would rather be the go to guy in Europe?... Come on man, that's ridiculous. Who's to say that it wasn't Patrik Hersley's lifelong goal to one day play in the NHL? I'm not saying it was, but for you to say it wasn't, is way off base.

 

You're reaching here, and for what? Again, no one here is saying "We Need To Sign This Guy", "He Is For Sure The Real Deal". People (myself anyway) are just saying that it wouldn't be the worst idea to give him a look in the offseason. Really, what's the harm in inviting him to training camp and if he impresses, and he's willing, signing him to a two-way contract? None...




#2566118 Give Patrick Hersley a shot?

Posted by krsmith17 on 27 January 2015 - 09:00 AM

I don't get why it's so hard to grasp the fact that every player develops at different rates. Some hone their skills at a very young age, others take a little longer to develop. Their are a lot of cases over the years where players didn't play their first game in the NHL until their late 20's, even into their mid to late 30's, believe it or not. number9, you pointed out that St. Louis didn't start his career until his mid 20's, and yet as an undersized player that was always told he was too small to make the NHL, he went on to be an All-Star, Hart winning player, who in all likelihood will be inducted into the Hockey Hall Of Fame. Is it really that hard to believe that a player who is 28 years old, has good size, is one of the top defenders in arguably the second best league in hockey, can be a serviceable player at the NHL level? I don't think anyone including Ekmanc was saying that he is going to come over and put up ridiculous numbers, making Wings fans say "Lidstrom who?", but it is possible he could become a decent 3rd pairing, power-play specialist.

 

In saying all that, I wouldn't mind giving him an invite to training camp this summer, but I wouldn't just hand him a contract based on his numbers over in Europe (KHL / SHL). We have a few talented guys that should make their way onto the big club in the next couple years, so I don't really see a fit, but it never hurts to give the guy a look.




#2566085 Give Patrick Hersley a shot?

Posted by frankgrimes on 26 January 2015 - 07:05 PM

Well I don't know anything about that guy - read his name for the first time here - so thank you Ekmanc for the information. If he doesn't cost  anything other than € I'm all for trying it if it doesn't work send him down to the AHL.




#2566001 Give Patrick Hersley a shot?

Posted by kipwinger on 26 January 2015 - 09:18 AM

 

So you're saying you can't cite any players who left the league and then came back to be successful in it? Only players who bloomed late? Is that what I'm hearing???

 

Is the question, "name players who have played in North America, gone back to Europe, and then returned to North America to have some success?"

 

Jori Lehtera?

Jiri Hudler?

Mark Streit?

Leo Komarov?

Brian Rafalski?

Johnny Oduya?

Radim Vrbata?

Anton Babchuk?

Robert Lang?

Mark Giordano?

Jiri Sekac?




#2565301 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by roboturner on 20 January 2015 - 10:36 PM

In my original post I blamed mostly Ericsson and Mrazek and a tiny bit on Smith for being incredibly Passive. How you turn that into me not blaming Ericsson at all and putting it all on Smith is quite incredible... or maybe just massively disingenous?

I guess it shouldn't really be a surprise around here anymore when people dishonestly twist other people's words around




#2565298 1/20 GDT: Wild 4 @ Red Wings 5 (SO)

Posted by roboturner on 20 January 2015 - 10:34 PM

 

I love the part where he layed out everything you missed, and you had nothing in response other than this. U mad bro?

Really? cuz I've been getting a few "U mad bro" comments my direction lately after posting lengthy arguments. So I guess those comments just people's way of saying they don't have an argument in return.




#2564652 1/18 GDT : Sabres 4 at Red Wings 6 (Z w/Hat Trick)

Posted by kickazz on 18 January 2015 - 10:37 PM

The only person I would pick MAYBE as a captain over Zetterberg is Jonathan Toews. But even that is a stretch. Z is a workhorse and get its done even with a subpar roster. Toews' got a good roster to shine with. Plus Z is more committed to our home city than 99% of the NHL players are to their cities. Shouldn't even be a discussion really.




#2564517 1/18 GDT : Sabres 4 at Red Wings 6 (Z w/Hat Trick)

Posted by Euro_Twins on 18 January 2015 - 10:05 PM

Those Damn lazy swedes


#2564427 1/18 GDT : Sabres 4 at Red Wings 6 (Z w/Hat Trick)

Posted by number9 on 18 January 2015 - 09:24 PM

MURICA

 

SLOVAKIA!




#2560293 Detroit's Stifling Defence (TSN.ca)

Posted by Dabura on 03 January 2015 - 12:23 PM

"Mathfreaks?" Is this a thing now? Cuz, if so, we should start calling Babcock Mr. Mathfreak, since he luvs teh mathz. Also, we should stop using numbers altogether. Goals, assists, PP%, PK%, faceoff %, shots on goal, shots against, scoring chances, blocked shots, turnovers, takeaways, wins-losses-OT, save percentage, GAA, hits...


WHAT MATTERS IS FIGHTS. YOU CAN'T MEASURE TOUGHNESS WITH A CALCULATOR.

 

BUT MATHFREAKS DON'T GET THAT. CUZ THEY DON'T ACTUALLY WATCH THE GAMES.




#2560284 Detroit's Stifling Defence (TSN.ca)

Posted by The Greek on 03 January 2015 - 11:41 AM

I respect Mirtle, Yost and all their other mathfreaks but as soon as I see their name ---> skip article.
 
If I wanted to read math stuff I'd look somewhere else and not at a sports site...with a horrible design

It's ok, a lot of people are frightened by things they don't understand.


#2558544 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 22 December 2014 - 02:34 PM

We don't know what's said behind closed doors , for all we know we might of told him if he came down he'd be a top 6 and get playing time ... And again none of us know how it's like to leave everyone you love behind in the country you were born to go play in an American hockey league so you can get to the nhl

Add to that he felt like it was pointless being there if he was gonna keep getting scratched .... At least he wasn't demanding to go straight to the nhl like some players do , he was willing to come work his game in the ahl , just not wit on his ass


He won't be be the last player to leave the ahl to go back home ... Just think he deserved more of a chance than a vet dman who will never be in the nhl

Grand Rapids is the wings prospects developmental team .... Not an old folks home for nhl failures to steal spots ... That's the way I see it ... Obviously you need some but if it comes to a vet or a promising player shouldn't even be close


That being said we need to make a spot for frk as well


#2558497 Rank our griffins d prospects

Posted by nyqvististhefuture on 21 December 2014 - 10:55 PM

What he did in a 10 game stretch last year is irrelevant to what he's done this year.  If he was better this year, he would have been playing.  He was sitting instead, and hat tells me that he's dropped off.  This is what Holland and Blashill said this year.  
 
Holland: Ive been in the game since 1975 in pro hockey, for 10 years as a minor league goaltender. Adversity and competition are wonderful things, and learning to fight through the adversity, learning to fight through the competition, learning to compete every day in practice and wait for your opportunity to get in the lineup and take somebodys job, thats what weve tried to build the Red Wings on."[/size]
 
Blashill: [/size]What Ive talked to him about is making sure that when he gets his opportunities, hes ready to play great, Blashill said. Thats the No. 1 thing he can control is his play. He cant control my decision on who to play.[/size]
 
2 things stick out to me in those quotes.  First, Backman wasn't prepared to play at a high level when he did play.  Second, he doesn't deal well when things aren't going his way.  If you can't do those things, I don't care how talented you are, you're not an NHL player.[/size]

What he did in a 10 game stretch last year is irrelevant to what he's done this year.  If he was better this year, he would have been playing.  He was sitting instead, and hat tells me that he's dropped off.  This is what Holland and Blashill said this year.  
 
Holland: Ive been in the game since 1975 in pro hockey, for 10 years as a minor league goaltender. Adversity and competition are wonderful things, and learning to fight through the adversity, learning to fight through the competition, learning to compete every day in practice and wait for your opportunity to get in the lineup and take somebodys job, thats what weve tried to build the Red Wings on."[/size]
 
Blashill: [/size]What Ive talked to him about is making sure that when he gets his opportunities, hes ready to play great, Blashill said. Thats the No. 1 thing he can control is his play. He cant control my decision on who to play.[/size]
 
2 things stick out to me in those quotes.  First, Backman wasn't prepared to play at a high level when he did play.  Second, he doesn't deal well when things aren't going his way.  If you can't do those things, I don't care how talented you are, you're not an NHL player.[/size]

Ken holland is a great gm but he was a scrap as an nhl player ... 3 games , drafted in the 12 th round .... He never really had a chance , so he's basically nathan paetsch .... Backman is a talented young defensemen who won awards and championships in his country who should of been given ice time to improve his game in North America

How's he suppose to improve sitting on his ass ? He's young and needs to play , not play once a month