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#2656168 Defense pairs

Posted by Buppy on 28 February 2016 - 06:14 PM

I don't know anything about this but how would it balance out over time? the top pair will always play against the top line of the other team, or as much as possible anyway. It's not like both teams just roll all 4lines equally which would have to be the case for it to even out.


A first dpair will always have a tougher matchup than a third pair will.

It balances because over time, there will be shifts where the opposing team gets their top players out against your bottom players, or vice-versa. Injuries/line-juggling move a player up/down in the lineup.


And it's not like teams have only one good player or line. A top player may have a lot more time against a specific player (like Dekeyser may play more minutes against Crosby), but if you look more of an overall picture (like Dekeyser against "good offensive players") it will be more even.


Yes, if you compare a player with a coach making a concerted effort to shelter him to a player with a coach giving them all the toughest assignments, there will be a difference (though I'd bet less than you'd think). But that's the absolute extreme. 


http://war-on-ice.com/series.html will show head-to-head matchups for all games between two teams in a given season. You can use that to look at who a player played with and against to get an idea. For example:

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On the actual site, you can mouse-over the squares to see actual minutes.


For the Wings, Kronwall, Ericsson, Dekeyser, and Quincey are all used about the same. Smith, Green, and Marchenko tend to be more sheltered. I'm not going to go through every bit of data for all the hundreds of players in the league, but I have to believe that if there was a big difference, it would show up in the stats. 


I suspect that no matter what, people who don't like what the data says are going to dismiss it anyway.

#2647667 1/11 GDT - Red Wings at Kings - 10:30 PM EST

Posted by frankgrimes on 13 January 2016 - 02:15 AM

So cynical...
He played very well after signing his contract, this slump is quite recent.

apparently if you sign a 4 mill plus contract you aren't allowed to slump or go through a bad stretch. it's not like guys like Crosby , Stammer or Toews - the 3 best players in the world - would ever go through something like this.

#2646905 Goalie Battle

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 08 January 2016 - 10:22 PM

Mrazek is the real deal and we are soooooo lucky we drafted him.


Posted by frankgrimes on 02 January 2016 - 03:02 PM

WJC > NHL and it's not even close this year.


Passion, national pride, great feisty games and a lot of back and forth. Finland - Sweden should be another game for the ages. Take a backseat dumbed down NHL

#2638368 When does Larkin get the C?

Posted by Son of a Wing on 20 November 2015 - 05:09 PM

Alright you've made the blocked list.


This is why I don't even bother engaging in conversation anymore.


Talk about clueless...

#2637021 11/14 GDT : Red Wings at Boston Bruins, 7:00 EST

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 14 November 2015 - 05:09 PM

I wouldn't feel too bad if someone, somehow made the nose of that rat swell tonight.

#2634153 10/30 GDT : Ottawa Senators 3 at Red Wings 1

Posted by Bill Berzeench on 30 October 2015 - 08:02 PM

i would trade tatar mantha jurco smith and a 1st for karlsson 

Sure u dont want to put Drew Miller in there? How about our complete SHYTE pile for the Nortis trophy winner?

Miller, Howard, Kindl, Ericsson, Andersson, and cleary. That ought to do it.

#2633895 Goalie Battle

Posted by joesuffP on 29 October 2015 - 11:13 AM

I think because of his puck playing abilities. (minus last game) It really gives us an advantage. Plus imo Mrazek has been generally better in all areas only slightly

#2633877 Goalie Battle

Posted by krsmith17 on 29 October 2015 - 06:34 AM

Quote from TSN's Bob McKenzie on Mrazek...

"They've got so many good young players. Dylan Larkin is going to be a star. I mean, Petr Mrazek has a chance to and I say this, I've got to be careful how I say this you see what Carey Price is doing for the Montreal Canadiens. I think there will be a point in time where Petr Mrazek might do the same sort of thing in terms of the athletic ability to dominate his position, when he gets older and more experienced, as what Price has been doing but there hasnt been enough consistency, and I think thats something they're working on."

#2631394 10/16 GDT : Carolina Hurricanes at Red Wings, 7:30 EST

Posted by joesuffP on 16 October 2015 - 08:29 PM

Smith is hot trash

#2629349 10/9 GDT : @ Red Wings 4, Toronto Maple Leafs 0

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 09 October 2015 - 07:33 PM

In other news around the NHL...

@MazzESPN: When Patrick Kane has the puck, #Isles fans chanting "No means no!"

I hope they run his garbage ass off the ice in tears.

Blash totally sounded like Babs in that interview. Totally  lol


#2626591 9/22 Exhibition GDT : @ Chicago Blackhawks 5, Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by Vladinator16 on 23 September 2015 - 06:32 AM

Jimmy making a good case to be starter.


Shots fired. 


Shots fired... and they all went straight past Howard. 

#2616925 2015 Draft

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 27 June 2015 - 11:21 AM

Must be amazing to be clairvoyant.


People on here pretend to have inside info or something, it's quite hilarious. Holland and co deal with real data that we only wish we had access to.

#2616755 2015 Draft

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 26 June 2015 - 07:19 PM

Wow I didn't know all 50 Panther fans could make that much noise.

#2612422 "It was thirteen years ago today....."

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 31 May 2015 - 08:28 AM

I still miss that guy that battled in front of the net that took away a lot of Lids' goals :(