Vanek's a very good top-six forward, but, truth be told, he's basically Franzen. Would you want Franzen with a $7.5M cap hit for seven years? (And don't forget the NTC/NMC.)
What an insult to vanek. He will NEVER be as bad as Franzen.
I like vanek as many do but I'm pretty sure no one wants him at 7.5m. Now 5m? yes! 6m with a shorter deal maybe 4 years? Yes. But not 7.5m and long term like he will probably get. I fully expect him to get 6-8m range for 7 years. I like vanek and want him on this team but not for that price. And I HATE long term deals in older guys. Idc who it is any deal thats long term and for guys older than 34 or 35+ is bad. It can't bring anything good. And I have yet to see one case where it has.
Ideally, I'd like to see the Wings add 2 big guys with speed and toughness to fill the 1st and 2nd line holes. But maybe they can slide a couple bigger dmen up since there seems to be a log jam on the blue line.
Well we had a guy that had grit and could fight and score 10+ goals he just didn't have size. And he ended up buried in GRR. As much as I agree we need it I'm sure holland is convinced we will win without it(which has never been the case).
We used to have the grind line. We also had homer who showed grit and toughness by getting abused every game in front of the net. Both of which were severely lacking.
Can we please shelve the "kick the tires," "we like our team," "(player x getting healthy) is our deadline acquisition," and "our PP is our enforcer" jokes alongside "(player y) is lazy and sucks," and "what's to stop Chris Chelios from..." as tired? I'm begging you, please. This board needs new material.
PS: The beard quote is pretty great.
If I may ask. Why stop those quotes? I mean yes they are overused. But they're FACTS. Proven facts. Look at ken Hollands track record...it's exactly who he is and what he is doing. Now can he change? Yes. Will he? I'm not sure only time will tell.
Holland overpays in trade yet tries to under pay the UFA's out there... I think he has it backwards.
That being said, I would also take Kesler for Helm, Smith and 1st. But as I mentioned in the other thread, what about throwing Edler in? What would have to be added to make that blockbuster? I personally would throw Franzen in along with Almqvist.
Adding in Franzen for elder? No that wouldn't get it done. If any GM actually watches Franzen play they'd realize just how little worth he has.
If everyone is saying that Nyquist met up with a far superior team, like the Bruins, then is it time to finally say this quick, small Euros need to go? Because Boston isn't going anywhere. We need to be more like them to win a cup. Aside from 02, the Wings have always had grittiness in their lineup. And even in 02, they had some...
Not all small euros no. No one is saying the small euros can't work. You just need bakance. Add some size and we be fine.