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#2534445 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by DeGraa55 on 17 August 2014 - 10:13 PM

"Tanking" implies losing on purpose.  Whether it's players underperforming, coaches using the wrong players or strategies, or management making moves to make the team worse, it's done with the intent of finishing lower in the standings and getting a higher draft pick.  Draft lotteries were invented to reduce the chances of this strategy working.  It was done more often in other sports, where high draft picks almost always become impact players right away.  The Indianapolis Colts' "Suck for Luck" season is one of the most recent examples.
The Red Wings did not tank to get Steve Yzerman, and there are two obvious reasons why: 1, the Wings had been terrible for almost two decades, making the playoffs twice in 17 years and only winning one series.  They didn't lose on purpose in "82-'83, they just couldn't win.  2, the Wings were heavily targeting local product Pat LaFontaine with the #4 pick, but he went #3 to the Islanders.  Yzerman was the consolation prize.

 
Tanking has been around for much longer than salary caps.  I think it's tougher to do today, between the cap and roster/player movement limitations.
 
Also, I think your "ready age" numbers are considerably off.  http://www.sbnation....es-age-analysis



So the colts losing the sexond best qb in football to injury had nothing to do with why they were bad. Teams have rebuilds like buffalo but even if they're bad I wouldn't consider it tanking. No coach or players would ever intentionally lose.


#2534442 Alfie wants to play

Posted by DeGraa55 on 17 August 2014 - 09:30 PM

..... Or, maybe play him exactly where he should start the season... In the minors, getting top line minutes, playing in all situations, gaining confidence...


I agree we all ready have a logjam at forward let him play all year in the ahl and if he lights it up...nhl in 15


#2534268 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by DeGraa55 on 14 August 2014 - 03:50 PM

http://www.usatoday....nsion/14052063/

 

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Stopped reading at the first quote. Put together what? Inherited is the proper word.


#2534249 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by DeGraa55 on 14 August 2014 - 12:38 PM

I'm so happy! I love mediocrity!!! Four year of barely making the playoffs with no trades or freer agent signings!!! Yessssssssssssssssssssss


#2533880 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by DeGraa55 on 07 August 2014 - 10:11 PM

How is holland trying to win? Not letting Tatar and nyquist get their chance when they deserve it? Continues to bring back ok broken down players who provide little to nothing.


I personally dot have a problem with rebuilding or go balls in to win. But holland is just sitting on the fence doing a little of both and thats what bothers me most.


#2533879 Report: NHL to have 5 outdoor games in 2014-15.

Posted by DeGraa55 on 07 August 2014 - 10:08 PM

I think it's a great idea and obviously fans of these teams do to. They deserve to get to experience it as well.


#2533586 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by DeGraa55 on 03 August 2014 - 12:45 AM

 
Kronwall finished 13th in Norris voting this year. That means he's ranked higher than 168 NHL D regulars among the theoretical 180. And that's on a team that was severely injured the entire season, with a weak D, and a goalie in a down year. If elite to you is top 10, cool. But that's good enough to me to not split hairs about it...
 
 


To me elite is like top 2 or 3 at that position. Like goalies. Elite we had guys like Brodeur Roy and hasek now it's henrik and quick.

So to me kronwall is very good but not elite.


#2533580 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by DeGraa55 on 02 August 2014 - 11:19 PM

 
We have 5 players over the age of 31.....Franzen (34), Zetterberg (33), Cleary (35), Kronwall (33) and Datsyuk (36) and 3 of those 5 are elite talents. Your statement makes it sound like our team is littered with older players who arent performing. We have two in Cleary and Franzen.


Kronwall elite? No. Elite is the best of the best too many people throw elite around too much.


#2533215 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by DeGraa55 on 28 July 2014 - 06:51 PM

Little higher then what I was thinking. But I agree it's a good deal for both sides.


#2532974 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by DeGraa55 on 24 July 2014 - 09:16 PM

Something I've been thinking about:
 
Let's say we do, in fact, win the Cup within the next three or four years (i.e. while we still have Datsyuk). What does that roster look like, realistically?


Kind of hard to do. This roster won't win a cup. It'll involve FA and/or trades. But people need to be added.


#2532926 Alfie wants to play

Posted by DeGraa55 on 24 July 2014 - 01:02 AM

 
Cleary, Bert. Q > Jurco, Tatar, Nyquist


Ken holland is that you?


#2532745 'District Detroit': Red Wings' New Arena Details Released

Posted by DeGraa55 on 21 July 2014 - 08:26 PM

How about "The Kicking Tires Arena" 
 
:lol:


Noooo that's the parking garage name.


#2532340 Dekeyser signed. 2 yrs $2.187 million AAV

Posted by DeGraa55 on 17 July 2014 - 01:40 PM

Dekeyser saw the deal Quincey got and realized he is worth at least 8m...he is double the player Quincey is.


Tatar I'm not surprised. He has a cocky attitude and frankly thinks he is better than what he is so I wonder how far off their numbers are to the wings. Is it a million or two? Couple hundred thousand?


#2532297 Ex-NHL Referee Paul Stewart Blog

Posted by DeGraa55 on 16 July 2014 - 07:11 PM

Actually it's pretty well known he was one of the biggest whiners. Some people just get caught drinking te cool aid of their team and don't always see things like this.

Ask penguins fans about Crosby sometime LOL.
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#2532248 Red Wings & the Media

Posted by DeGraa55 on 16 July 2014 - 12:03 PM

Drew Sharp is a d-bag who DOES in fact troll all things UofM. If you think otherwise then you haven't really seen him in action.


Lol god I remember some of his crap. This has been a well known fact for years.