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#2466050 No Suspension for Quincey's Hit on Getzlaf

Posted by DeGraa55 on 18 December 2013 - 07:42 PM

They were going to suspend him. But then they realize its more severe of a penalty to the Detroit red wingsto just let him play.

#2464905 Wings muscle?

Posted by DeGraa55 on 15 December 2013 - 05:37 PM

I agree but it doesn't need to be a goon. Guys like lapointe and shanahan were the best. Guys who can do a little everything and but also have the toughness to hit and fight when needed. We've seen glimpses from like Smith and Ericsson but not enough.

Guys who use their body, can share, score, hit and sometimes fights are what we need. Unfortunately they're hard to find especially since wed rather keep our undersized pass first players over guys that we NEED.

#2464296 Thornton suspended 15 games.

Posted by DeGraa55 on 14 December 2013 - 06:00 PM

Too much and Neal didn't get enough.

#2464162 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by DeGraa55 on 14 December 2013 - 03:24 AM

The fact that get Neal got five...he shouldn't get more than five. But since the pens are the golden girls of the NHL Thornton will get double what he actually deserves.

#2463349 Weiss

Posted by DeGraa55 on 11 December 2013 - 02:12 AM

i remember getting sh*t on by alot of people for saying he was overrated when we signed him, i also didnt like the alfredsson signing just because the cap number was 5.5 for a 40 yr old player , i can live with the alfredsson signing cause its 1 year but even if we gave him say 4 million instead we'd have flexibility and be able to call up ahl players
ah wellalso cause the cap number is going up 7 million i just hope holland doesnt feel like he has to go out just sign any joblo , like i said last summer rather keep the money till the right moment arrives ( a real star is available although it rarely happens now ) or let the kids play and keep money for the future raises (nyquist , tatar etc.. )

I agree I didn't like the Alfie signing either.

I personally still think its in the teams best interest to let DAT and z center their own line so they can match up well against other team top 2 lines. And the money we had and have coming io in free agency should be to put legit wingers around them.

The Alfie Sammy Quincey Bert cleary and if we didn't sign Weiss money would get us two really good wingers for each z and DAT. Then you could plug in your franzen Tatar nywuist Abby etc etc where ever Babcock sees fit. And whoever's left plays with helm(when injured Anderson) on the third line.

But instead we insist on old broken players and guys who don't like to score.

#2462627 I'd like to talk about this off-season/next season

Posted by DeGraa55 on 09 December 2013 - 10:55 PM

The new CBA, specifically the cap recapture provision, specifically the part that states that the penalty applies to the team that originally signed the deal, not the team that owns the player when he retires.
Plus, many other things related to the "business world that is called the NHL"...

Just more reason to buy him out.

He is a 25 goal scorer that brings nothing else to the table.

#2462263 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by DeGraa55 on 07 December 2013 - 10:14 PM

Oh, well you don't think he should be hurt so it's all good.  Thank god it's as cut and dry as that.  Do you have any idea how Orpik was actually injured, or were you just basing this assessment on your obviously profound medical knowledge?  Thornton wasn't being a jackass, Orpik is just not tough enough.  Right.
Keep blaming the victim dude, that's always a good call.

Or maybe you should use your god given eyeballs and watch the replay. It didn't look like it was serious enough for anyone to get injured. His head didn't hit the ice so its not that...his shoulder did so maybe its an injury related to that but why a stretcher? The 2-3 hits weren't that hard either....I'm sure orpik has been hit harder.

#2462252 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by DeGraa55 on 07 December 2013 - 10:03 PM

Thornton tripped Orpik - he put his leg behind to prevent Orpik from balancing. I think this is overstepping by Thornton considering Orpik didn't do anything outside the rules. Initially I thought he was the one who kneed Marchand - that is worth some retaliation - but that should be done to Neal. I'm actually wondering how serious the injury to Orpik was because he didn't look like he banged his head hard on the ice or got hit too bad from Thornton - i've seen far worse do the same damage. Anyways - we will see what Shanny does with this. I can see Neal getting away with nothing and claiming it was an accident.

Even though it wasn't an accident....but I sadly it wouldn't surprise me.

Also I feel like orpik shouldn't of even been hurt....idk. I think the only reason this is being discussed is because he left on stretcher which i don't know why he needed to.

#2462244 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by DeGraa55 on 07 December 2013 - 09:54 PM

There was nothing wrong with the hit on Eriksson. Why would orpik need to fight Thornton? If he wanted to fight anyone for a cheap shot it's Neal.
Gutless on thorntons part. Prick deserves at least 10.

Well there was something wrong with the hit. The defenseman left erikson out to get nailed. But remember players don't always see the hits as they happen and they are the result. Erikson was also coming back from an injury that's why Thornton went and challenged him.

Then Neal kneed marchand in the head which he deserves a huge suspension for. And Thornton was on the ice for this. He should've gone after neal but he immediently went off the ice so Thornton then grabbed orpik and he fell which I have no problem with. What I do have a problem is once orpik fell Thornton then hit him two or three times for sure(may of been more but hard to see with so many people grabbing him). And Thornton should get 5 games for it. But this would've been avoided if orpik would've fought him earlier or if Neal didn't go to bench.

#2462186 Shawn Thornton attacks Orpik (leaves game on stretcher)

Posted by DeGraa55 on 07 December 2013 - 09:31 PM

Orpik should've fought him the first time two cheap shots on bruins players led to it...Thornton will get a suspension but I don't blame him.

This makes me want to puke.  We should roll this into the "retaliation" thread just so everybody can get a good look at what the "code" has become.  Hit a guy clean, and some mongoloid comes along and cripples you just for the sake of being a tough guy.  Ugh, how can people even pretend that there's some sort of honor in NHL fighting these days?

Kneeing a guy in the head is clean? LOL.

#2461930 I'd like to talk about this off-season/next season

Posted by DeGraa55 on 07 December 2013 - 04:37 PM

Everyone keeps on being so wrong about Franzen but continue to keep speaking about him. You'd think after you've been wrong so many times you'd keep your comments to yourself. It must be embarrassing.
Franzen is a true power forward and the only one on this team. He won't be bought out because holland isn't stupid. Him retiring early and giving the team a 3M cap penalty will be peanuts by that time with the cap going way up. Also considering having a player of Franzen's caliber would usually demand 5.5M see what Weiss was able to demand. His Defense is very undervalued on this board. He's big, strong, one of the best shots and great play maker. If this guy was on any other team he would be some of your guys wet dream to be on this team for 3.9M a year

He is big but strong? Come on I could poke him with my finger and he would fall over then his response would would be to whine and cry. He is the definition of a ***** not a power forward. He is fine of those people that everyone knows....he runs his dick sucker telling you what he is going to do but never has the balls to do it. He is a ***** don't ever label him as a power forward again its a disgrace to the REALnpower forwards of this league.

He is terrible in way more than HALF of the games he plays. That's why he should be bought out. Even though Weiss isn't scoring points he still brings more than what franzen does. Z and DAT when they're not scoring? They provide leadership and defense.

#2461825 Lines Thread

Posted by DeGraa55 on 07 December 2013 - 01:23 AM

If ever healthy - leave franzen at C - he is running show with the kids on his wings.
Zetterberg - Datsyuk - Alfie
Tatar - Franzen - Nyqust
Abby - Helm - Weiss
Miller - Andersson - Bert (PP net front)
Sammy, Cleary

Ya I agree Tatar and nyquist doing all the work while he floats is a good combination as long as he floats to the right spot...

#2461399 Howard = Average

Posted by DeGraa55 on 06 December 2013 - 02:50 AM

Brodeur would be average on this team of Dan cleary and Sammy's.

#2459302 11/29 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Islanders 0

Posted by DeGraa55 on 29 November 2013 - 05:57 PM

What an amazing pass by smith to Alfie for a goal.

#2459173 Weiss

Posted by DeGraa55 on 29 November 2013 - 02:37 PM

I didn't like the Weiss signing when it happened and still don't. But I will say itnis still too early to say it is yet another bad signing by Holland.