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#2683253 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Dabura on 15 July 2016 - 09:53 AM

Holland doesn't believe that young kids are the answer. I'm not going to say if he's right or wrong

 

It's not a black-or-white, all-or-nothing issue. Holland's making it one, but it's not one (or, it shouldn't be one).

 

The team needs more youth. It doesn't need all youth. It needs more youth. And more skill, more talent, more high-end ability. Greater possession prowess. Goal scoring. Being able to play without the puck. Young legs. Size. These are things we're lacking. These are things that an Athanasiou or a Mantha can provide, and for a dirt-cheap cap hit--and neither of these players has even come close to hitting his respective ceiling yet.

 

We're looking more and more like the Canadiens, and that's not a good thing. It's a bad thing. All this garbage about Grit and Character and Experience and Playing Without the Puck and Veteran Leadership and Knowing Your Place and Earning Your [insert whatever the hell it is you're supposed to be "earning"] -- it's all bulls***. And, accordingly, we'll be lucky to make the playoffs this season, just like 2015-16, 2014-15, 2013-14, 2012-13.




#2682624 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by kickazz on 08 July 2016 - 12:41 PM

Martin would have been the worst contract of the decade. Glad we didn't go for it.




#2681873 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 02 July 2016 - 07:23 AM

Maybe Tatar +pulk +oullete gets us fowler?

 

Change that to Nyquist and you may have something.  Either way Tatar and Nyquist are not built for playoff hockey.




#2681828 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 01 July 2016 - 10:07 PM

 

No s*** if we drafted a top 3 player they'd be playing but just because we don't doesn't mean every prospect has to wait 4 years in the minors .... Your telling me Tatar wasn't ready after 3 years In Grand Rapids?nyquist? Don't tell me they weren't ready

It's quite obvious Detroit has always preferred the veterans over younger talent ... Just look what they did now , they signed ott who hasn't been relevant in 7 years , signed vanek on the decline after they said mantha would be given every opportunity to make this team ( we both know that's not happening especially with Miller AND helm being resigned as well )

Ouellet is another kid who could of played last season but waited another year cause we give wastes like Ericsson longterm deals
First? The way this team is headed that can end up being a top 5 pick , no way we can touch it now

 

Some nights Tats and Gus aren't ready now. Good grief. Those two are small, soft complimentary players. With any luck we'll be able to move one of them in a package for a good defenseman before Oct 13.


#2681863 Who should get A?

Posted by 55fan on 02 July 2016 - 05:26 AM

Abby is a strong choice.  He is pretty vocal and seems to be respected by the guys.  He does well with the media and (barring a weird trade) will be around for a while.
I'd give him the nod.




#2681862 Who should get A?

Posted by Jacksoni on 02 July 2016 - 05:25 AM

Abdelkader.




#2681812 Thomas Vanek signs 1 year, $2.6m deal with Detroit

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2016 - 09:11 PM

If signing Stamkos would've been an A+, these 3 signed today is a solid B+.

Helm is C-....


#2681842 Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

Posted by SwedeLundin77 on 02 July 2016 - 12:01 AM

His grit means nothing, tbh. We're the only hockey franchise that can win 4 titles in a decade being last in the league in fights and PM's and still think tough guys have any place in the NHL. 

Some might say that Dallas Drake was a part of why we won our last cup... Not saying that Ott is comparable to Dallas Drake, but your comment about grit meaning nothing holds no water.  Grit does not go hand in hand with fights and PM's.


Worthless and it's only gonna take away Mantha/Pulk

 

Okay, first of all, Pulk had had ample opportunity to show he can bring it in the NHL and has yet to really earn it.  20 points in 70 games.  That doesn't bode well for a sniper.  Secondly, Mantha would be wasted on the 4th line.  He'd be better of playing top line minutes in Grand Rapids.  I would love to have Mantha stay up with the big club this season, but one more year in the AHL may actually benefit him over playing 10 or less minutes a game on a shut-down line.




#2681789 Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 01 July 2016 - 07:54 PM

I hope he doesn't get his hopes up. The bloom will be off the rise soon enough when he's constantly scratched and traded for a conditional pick.

 

Bubble burster!




#2681774 Steve Ott signs 1 year, $800k deal with Detroit

Posted by hankzet40 on 01 July 2016 - 07:07 PM

That is the exact kind of stuff I want to read. It is sorely lacking on this team these days.




#2681719 Thomas Vanek signs 1 year, $2.6m deal with Detroit

Posted by Euro_Twins on 01 July 2016 - 05:03 PM

Why would folks complain about the Vanek signing? People were suggesting we sign Staal to a "show me" deal. Isn't the same kind of deal Vanek just got? Short term, fairly low money. Let's see if Vanek wants to earn more in 17/18.


$2.6 million is a steal even if he just puts up the same 18 goals 40 points he put up last year


#2681608 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by LeftWinger on 01 July 2016 - 03:01 PM

Wings only have $4.9M left not counting Franzen and Viale LTIR. $9.9M roughly. You got to figure that much is going to DD and Mrazek. No help on D unless we move Salary. Howard, Ericcson or Nyquist. Those are the big three that need to go in a package.


#2681590 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Wingnut1989 on 01 July 2016 - 02:55 PM

I'll take the vanek deal, low risk. who knows he might find his game again in DET




#2681581 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by matt198913 on 01 July 2016 - 02:52 PM

I like this a lot. Now go trade a winger for the D help you desperately need


#2681374 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Datsyukian-Deke on 01 July 2016 - 12:36 PM


John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet  18s18 seconds ago


Detroit has been informed they are out on Radulov. #SigningSeason
 
Should have never been IN on him to begin with


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