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#2480596 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Dabura on 03 February 2014 - 01:50 PM

(Salo and Timonen are both Finnish. So maybe they'd like the idea of playing on the same team, maybe even the same pairing. And we could bring up Pulkkinen and make all our Swedes feel uncomfortable.)




#2480586 All movie Character team

Posted by BadgerBob on 03 February 2014 - 12:49 PM

I agree with the original article,
http://thehockeywrit...h.MMLGdPY2.dpuf
I'd scratch Bombay for the speedy Premature Ejaculator.

"Stevie Weeks...The last addition to the Mystery, Alaska squad, Weeks was a teenager who skated the towns frozen river every morning. On a team full of speedsters, Weeks was clearly the fastest on the roster.

Weeks play was impressive enough for the Rangers to sign him to a minor-league contract."

- See more at: http://thehockeywrit...h.MMLGdPY2.dpuf

 

Haha love the description of Weeks. But, I donno man. Weeks has Crosby face and can't take a hit. I'll take the Minnesota Miracle Man.




#2480575 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by DickieDunn on 03 February 2014 - 12:07 PM

God I wish people would stop just posting capgeek rosters, without adding a comment. Girardi for 3,25 *lol*

 

The whole Vanek thing will be over within 2 months, the guy is a pure rental he wants to test UFA. So every team giving up an A level prospect + a 1 does so for a short window of his services. Smart GMs aren't crazy enough to do that, because if they want him make an offer on July 1.

 

From a Wings stance Holland would deserve to be fired if he packaged one of Sheahan, Tatar, Nyquist, Dekeyser or Mantha for him.

 

Snow will try hard to get back a serious package, because they've given up a lot to get Vanek. An argument can be made for both sides when it comes down to the driverseat, Vanek will make an already contending team better but they all know that Snow has to deal him now, or the Isles are going to lose him for nothing.

 

That was in a response to a post saying the Wings could trade Quincey and a pick for Girardi and be under the cap. 

 

I don't think the Wings should trade for any of the rentals unless they can talk go the player first and make sure they're looking for a team to sign with, not wanting to test the market.  The value of the rentals at the deadline is usually more than they're worth.




#2479993 Almqvist or Backman

Posted by DickieDunn on 02 February 2014 - 01:36 PM

Almquist is a RFA this summer.  I could see him heading home.  His offense isn't nearly good enough to make up for his defensive short comings.  People want Kindl, Quincey, and Smith gone for their mistakes, Almquist is a good step worse than any of them.




#2480556 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 03 February 2014 - 11:19 AM

I predict that Kenny will answer some prayers and finally make a big splash at the deadline.

 

I then predict that all those LGWers that criticized him for "kicking tires", "liking his team", and sitting on his hands are going to absolutely loose their minds when he trades one of Tatar, Jurco, or Nyquist.

 

You are absolutely spot on with the second part.  Though I'm still skeptical that he'll make a move at all.




#2480544 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by RedWang on 03 February 2014 - 10:47 AM

Vaneks going to a cup contender. (Pit Bos Ana St louis) one of those types.

ALL I WANT FOR PUR TEAM IS DAN GIRARDI!

Didnt anyone watch the game yesterday/ the super bowl? Defense wins championships! We need a top 2 dman!
At this point pur expendable assets are:

Quincey
Kindl
Cleary
Bert
Eaves
Miller
Andersson
Almqvuist
Picks

Aslong as were not getting rid of Goose,Tats,Jurco,Mantha or Oullette im good.


#2479593 Injury Updates

Posted by DRW Dominance on 31 January 2014 - 10:57 PM

I think Ken said during the game "maybe" Monday for Pav. Of course, he has been close for weeks now. I am to the point where I would be surprised if he's back before the Olympics.

i would rather him not play in the olympics.  i'm really leaning towards the nhl bowing out all together and leave the olympics to the amateurs.


Ya If it was a groin or muscle pull you wouldn't expect that he would be out a month (or at least played a few times here and there and re-aggregated it). From the sounds of things in the media updates he hasn't been close to a comeback and then had a setback either. If it was a foot/stress fracture I could believe that too. Not sure why they can't release the actual cause when it is clear he won't be back until its healed - this isn't the playoffs where you hide your injuries while playing injured. 

i was trying to pinpoint anything i could as well.  considering he was in the shootout in the WC.  it reminds me of the SC finals against pitt when he was getting a charlie horse drained and everyone was very hush hush.




#2475243 Almqvist or Backman

Posted by Son of a Wing on 21 January 2014 - 07:48 PM

Backman by a country-mile.




#2479788 2/2 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Capitals 6 (OT)

Posted by number9 on 02 February 2014 - 05:20 AM

Wow look at those leading stats.... We should probs trade dats for backstrom.

I mean hes younger right? Right? *blows brains out*


#2479150 Would you be ok with this roster?

Posted by kipwinger on 31 January 2014 - 11:06 AM

Ok, yeah. Happy, not really.

 

Kip: Not sure how you can think it's better than the current roster, unless you're meaning the current injured roster. Jurco, Sheahan, Callahan, & Ferraro are at best a wash with Alfie, Cleary, Bert and whichever of Eaves/Tootoo/Glendening/Sammy/Emmerton you want to consider our 14th. More likely a bit of a downgrade. Same goes with replacing Quincey and Gustavsson. Plus Pav, Hank, and Franzen all a year older...

 

I like the confidence you seem to have in the farm, but to say they'd be significantly better is probably an unrealistic expectation. But I do agree that that lineup really wants for a good forward and defenseman. I'd also rather see Mrazek starting in GR than backing up here, but not so much that I'd complain about it.

 

Bingo.  Compared to what we've iced for almost the entire season I think it's significantly better.  But every point you made is valid and I'd add that I don't agree with many of his lines/defensive pairings. However I think that roster (rearranged) would probably make the playoffs, but not challenge for the cup, which is what I think we're capable with a couple changes (Kindl gone, Smith to the third, puck mover to the second, and power forward to the top six).




#2479128 Would you be ok with this roster?

Posted by kipwinger on 31 January 2014 - 10:11 AM

This was hard because it's significantly better than what we've got now, and because it would probably make the playoffs.  But I don't think it would win the Cup and I want one more of those before Datsyuk and Zetterberg decline.  As such, any lineup that doesn't compete for a Cup is wasting another year of their careers and the lineup above needs a power forward and a better puck mover than Smith to make that happen. 




#2478813 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by kipwinger on 29 January 2014 - 06:56 PM

Detroit would be a better team with Datsyuk and Stamkos than Zetterberg and Stamkos.  Although both teams would be VERY good with either of those combos. Zetterberg NOR Datsyuk are being traded so this is all for fun, but what will be fun is if/when Holland gets that type of scorer to play on the same lilne with BOTH Zetterberg and Datsyuk...and that is a major missing piece that Holland needs to address this summer...

 

Moving to the D.  Some folks here say that the Wings aren't ONE superstar defenseman away from the Stanley Cup, but if you look at our Stanley Cup winning teams, each and every one of those teams had ONE superstar defenseman and 5-6 solid others. (outside of 1997 when Vladdy was here and Lids was just becoming a superstar)

 

1997 - Lidstrom, Konstantinov, Fetisov, Murphy, Ward, Pushor, Rouse (Dandenault was still a RW)

1998 - Lidstrom, Murphy, Fetisov, Rouse, Mironov, Eriksson, Macoun (Dandenault was still a RW)

2002 - Lidstrom, Dandenault, Chelios, Duchesne, Fischer, Olausson (Krupp, Slegr)

2008 - Lidstrom, Chelios, Kronwall, Lebda, Rafalski, Stuart, Lilja

 

The common here is ONE superstar and a group of level B solid defenders.  Right now we have a whole D corps of level B-C defenders

 

Kronwall - Ericsson - Dekeyser - Smith those four will be your solid group of level B defenders, we NEED that superstar to anchor this team for the next 6-8 years+.

 

SUPERSTAR - Kronwall

Ericsson - Dekeyser

Smith - B defender

C Defender

 

That's the key on D.

 

Lefty, you're reaching.  Lidstrom, Fetisov, Murphy, and Chelios are all Hall of Famers.  Konstantinov would have been.  In the 1997-1998 season Fetisov played 18:00 minutes a night and Murphy 25:00 minutes.  I can't find numbers for the year before but logic dictates it was probably not less icetime given that they were a year younger.  In 2001-2002 Chelios played 25 minutes a night.  In 1997-1998 Lidstrom played 27:00 minutes a night, in 2001-2002 he played 28:00, and in 2007-2008 he played 26:00...again, no stats for 1996-1997 but there's no reason to assume a huge change one way or another.  Finally, because he was only on the first Cup team there's no stats for Konstantinov, but considering he was considered the better of the two (at the time) between he and Lidstrom, you have to assume it was a lot for him as well. 

 

It's not like they were a bunch of young kids who hadn't reached their potential, or else old guys who were past it.  They were Hall of Fame players logging HUGE minutes.  You've got a moderately valid point for 2008...maybe...but that was post cap and our defense was about as good as it could be given those constraints.




#2478738 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Inultus on 29 January 2014 - 12:34 PM

Chelios won the Norris 3 times and he is in the hall of fame.  He was a superstar.




#2478726 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by DickieDunn on 29 January 2014 - 11:48 AM

Only way you can talk to me about trading Datsyuk or Zet is if the return is the likes of Stamkos or Tavares. 

Like I said, ridiculous




#2478701 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by Hey man nice shot! on 29 January 2014 - 10:38 AM

You don't trade Datsyuk.  Around the league he is the PLAYERS choice for best player in the league.  If ANYONE is going to want to come here and play, it's to be able to play with Datsyuk, not Zetterberg.  I'm sorry, Zetterberg is a star, but he is an average star, there are a bunch of players in the NHL that I would rather have on this team than Zetterberg.  Pav, is a Superstar, there is nobody in this league that is a better complete NHL superstar, and nobody you could offer me that I would trade him for...

 

I am not saying trade Zetterberg either, but if it came down to another "choice," Zetterberg would be the one to go everyday of the week.

I hate to agree on this, but i do.