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#2531690 Myers close to become a wing?

Posted by Euro_Twins on 11 July 2014 - 08:20 PM

Why not? Better than fools like Del Zotto or Green...
 
Give Buffalo what they want. They have no interest in Franzen or Weiss. Kenny can find other solutions for those two. Buffalo wants established Wingers with potential or high end offensive prospects. Myers is worth it. He can play a lot better than he actually is. Hard to develop for a young defenseman in this environment...
Detroit is no longer a top address for FA's and we're far away from being a contender. Time to react, even if we suck for one or two seasons. Pav and Z won't play forever...
 
 
- Trade Ericsson away...i have no idea what we'd get for him, but I don't think a 2nd Rounder is too much.
- Use the 2nd Rounder and add Tatar, Nyquist and Ferraro to get Myers
- As we now need Wingers, get Troy Brouwer and send Weiss back to Washington. Troy isn't the greatest fan of Coach Oates plus they have too many RW's and need Centers
- Add some more talent and bring in Evander Kane by flipping over Smith, Franzen, Andersson, McCollum and a future 2nd Rounder
- If Alfredsson returns - fine. Otherwise, sign Stempniak as a depth forward.
- Give our youth a chance. Even if we suck...as wrote before, I don't care. We need to do something...
 
 
 
FORWARDS
Tomas Jurco ($0.709m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Troy Brouwer ($3.667m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Anthony Mantha ($0.894m)
Teemu Pulkkinen ($0.698m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Danny Cleary ($1.500m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.500m) / Brian Lashoff ($0.725m)
Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Alexei Marchenko ($0.667m)
Kyle Quincey ($4.250m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m)
BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m)
BONUS OVERAGE
$3,017,500
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,605,833; BONUSES: $1,542,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,394,167


So you'd trade one of our young high end forwards for a project dman, but not for one whose scored 70 points twice 56 points and 30 goals before ? Seems logical


#2531685 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by Euro_Twins on 11 July 2014 - 07:40 PM

Bleacher Report reporting Mike Green for Tatar was "close" to being finalized earlier this afternoon. If true, this would cement the worst offseason I can remember for the Wings.


I've scoured bleacher report and the entire internet and found nothing of this. If you're going to post something saying such and such websites are saying something you better post a link, or else I and everyone else will just assume you've made it up.


#2531643 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by Euro_Twins on 11 July 2014 - 04:55 PM

1st the signing of Franzen over Hossa whoch now looks worse and worse.

 

Weiss signing over Filppula. Yes there was time where Filppula looked lost but let's face it at half the player he is better then Weiss. Those 25 goals and 33 assists would have looked nice on the roster last year.

 

He used his last buyout on Tootoo who was to make a little over 1 million this year on the last year of his deal...why?

 

This season its sitting back and watching other teams pick up players. I know the Red Wings aren't really a destination anymore but I wouldn't have bitched even if the Red Wings took a 1 year flyer on Heatley. Which he ended up signing for 1 million with Anaheim.

 

Hell they should have just bit the bullet and brought legwand back.

 

Now there is no promise that even Alfredsson will come back. Also with the talks of trading Tatar for Green I just don't know anymore.

 

I've tried soo hard to support Holland but I just can't anymore.

 

 

 

Filppula was offered roughly the same contract he signed with tampa but for 7 years, he turned it down, went to free agency, circled back to the wings but they had already used up their cap space.

 

Hossa was offered the same contract they gave Franzen, he turned it down so they went with plan b and signed Franzen.




#2531142 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 04:11 PM

I seriously think Holland is becoming my most hated person in sports.
 
Actually, he is my most hated person in sports.
 
My roomate is from Nigeria and has watched his first ever hockey games (about 10) with me last season. He laughs that Quincey and Cleary are re signed. 
 
The fact that he understands that these players shouldn't be on the team but Holland doesn't says alot.


It's all part of a bigger plan to package Quincey Cleary and andersson for stamkos....


#2531135 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 04:06 PM

Dan+Cleary+Edmonton+Oilers+v+Detroit+Red


#2531118 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 03:57 PM

He should not have been signed this year or last year: that makes it a multi year deal.


He'll probably be signed next year too...


#2531110 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 03:53 PM

 
He's most likely gonna end up hurt or benched. Not the end of the world. I don't like it, but it's not like it's a multi year deal.


He shouldn't be on any pro hockey team at all. Ken Holland has lost his marbles


#2531104 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 03:48 PM

i give up.
 
not following the team this season.

At least one good thing came of this...

I really hope Cleary just goes on ltir all year again. But I know he will be in the top 6 for a while, I didn't want to believe it was possible. I guess I just like to give #fireholland the benefit of the doubt too much.... Well we're done until Alfie is ready to sign

Edit : auto crocodile sucks today


#2531091 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 03:44 PM

 
I understand that point believe me but if you compare to some less demanding, physical sports and what the guys there are making it's almost nothing. I can tell you one thing for sure, if the Wings would have had  a superstar like that to sign now, the caphit wouldn't be much different, wheter we like it or not it's the truth that's exactly why longer contract length was a nice loophole :(
 
Chicago only had 1 alternative: letting them go and that would have set back their franchise not only in terms of performance but also in terms of recognition and UFAs rwilling to sign there.


You can't compare baseball football basketball or soccer go hockey no matter how you phrase it. Those sports all make way more money than hockey. The fact is the owners lock the players out demanding they make less money then turn around right after and give them even more money.

For what the teams make in hockey, those two players make too much money, yeah they are good, but they aren't the absolute best players in the league, Sven though they are paid as such.

Consider this, Crawford an excruciatingly average goaltender makes $6million a year, why? Because they won the cup so why not? Chicago seems to way overvalue their players and it will be their downfall. They can't keep giving every player top 5 pay in the league if they win a Stanley cup. You would think they would have learned that after 2010, guess not.

Toews and Kane are worth $8-8.5 a year, not 10.5 and definitely not 12. Well if the cap is going up, we better give nyquist an 8 year $50million contract when his expires next season...


#2531054 Who is this player

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 03:11 PM

Yup - it's Lee Norwood.

 

Here's another...

 

Who's the guy hoisting the Cup?  58653.3.jpg

 

Gary Leeman?

 

 

how bout this?

 

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#2531049 What is the plan with Mrazek?

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 03:03 PM

he just signed a 1 year one way contract that starts after this upcoming season, for sure he will be the back up, plus holland already said that was the case, even contemplated making him the back up this year.




#2530961 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 06:00 AM

Crosby (10,8 Caphit) > Toews (10,5 Caphit)


Crosby cap hit = 8.7


#2530956 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 05:32 AM

 
I did mention Stamkos as better, Tavares is not there yet but very close true. Z and D are superstars but not Toews, Stamkos or Crosby  like superstars.
 
Giving 1,5 per as a discount and taking 10,5 per is not selfish, unclassy it's asking for a fair value and it's not Toews fault that contracts are capped at 8 years.


They asked for $12 each, and I don't think they are worth more than $9. They have a higher cap hit than Crosby and ovechkin and every other player in the league. They are not the best players in the league and will never put up Crosby or ovechkin (when he signed his deal) numbers. Kane and Toews are good, but they'll never get over 100 points, they are maybe on the same level as Datsyuk and Zetterberg and I wouldn't consider those two the best in the league. They also get paid what they are worth so what do I know right?


#2530955 Please Help Me Win GDT of the year.

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 05:18 AM

So far I trail by a single vote with the trophy being handed out at 9 tonight.
 
I might just be able to pull off the upset.



Omg that was close, good job flashy!! Winning by two votes!


#2530952 Kane & Toews Sign Identical 8-year, $10.5M AAV Extensions

Posted by Euro_Twins on 10 July 2014 - 05:14 AM

I don't think this is going to handcuff the Blackhawks longterm. Was Kane worth 10,5 for 8 years ? No but everyone knows Buffalo would have thrown the bank at him so goes for Winnipeg and Toews. Toews is easily worth that much, other than Crosby and Stamkos nobody is better than him not even Kopitar and I really love that guy (hardworking physical presence everytime he's on the ice).
 
These two are the cornerstones of the Blackhawks and the funny thing is, some people (Blackhawks forum) still don't understand the differense between pre and post lockout caphits . Both haven given discounts of 1,5 mill per that's a lot of money almost 4 liner...


I think Malkin, Tavares, Stamkos, Datsyuk and Zetterberg are all better. Neither Kane or Toews is even a ppg player. The fact that they were asking $12 million/year is selfish and un classy and I hope it really handcuffs them going forward