Before injuries, yeah. Long ago...you're dreaming if you think that Green can still produce anything even close...
Green's still a risk and his contract sucks as there's only one year left. Don't you think that we have enough average in our roster? Don't you think we have enough players with injury problems in our roster? I just can't take more of those stupid "Kenny moves". It's enough. Let's do some real trades and bring in players who really help. Myers is a project, but he's already better than Green, especially defensively. Plus he'd add the size we desperately need. Kronwall / Myers would be like a wall. If he's available for a package without a 1st Rounder or Top Prospect, do the deal...he's worth it and fits our needs perfectly.
They want Mantha, he won't come cheap and he isn't worth it. Green is only 28, so yes I think he can still play that way, you are talking like he's 35 and on a steady decline. Ya he's had injury problems, but he is heaalthy now, and will have a much better season. I like that it is only one year too, if he isn't good he is gone, if he is good, we extend him.
Why not? Better than fools like Del Zotto or Green...
Give Buffalo what they want. They have no interest in Franzen or Weiss. Kenny can find other solutions for those two. Buffalo wants established Wingers with potential or high end offensive prospects. Myers is worth it. He can play a lot better than he actually is. Hard to develop for a young defenseman in this environment...
Detroit is no longer a top address for FA's and we're far away from being a contender. Time to react, even if we suck for one or two seasons. Pav and Z won't play forever...
- Trade Ericsson away...i have no idea what we'd get for him, but I don't think a 2nd Rounder is too much.
- Use the 2nd Rounder and add Tatar, Nyquist and Ferraro to get Myers
- As we now need Wingers, get Troy Brouwer and send Weiss back to Washington. Troy isn't the greatest fan of Coach Oates plus they have too many RW's and need Centers
- Add some more talent and bring in Evander Kane by flipping over Smith, Franzen, Andersson, McCollum and a future 2nd Rounder
- If Alfredsson returns - fine. Otherwise, sign Stempniak as a depth forward.
- Give our youth a chance. Even if we suck...as wrote before, I don't care. We need to do something...
Tomas Jurco ($0.709m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Troy Brouwer ($3.667m)
Evander Kane ($5.250m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Anthony Mantha ($0.894m)
Teemu Pulkkinen ($0.698m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) / Riley Sheahan ($0.950m) / Danny Cleary ($1.500m)
Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Luke Glendening ($0.628m) / DEFENSEMEN
Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Tyler Myers ($5.500m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.500m) / Brian Lashoff ($0.725m)
Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) / Alexei Marchenko ($0.667m)
Kyle Quincey ($4.250m) / GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.850m) BUYOUTS
Carlo Colaiacovo ($0.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($0.000m) BONUS OVERAGE
$3,017,500 ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (estimations for 2014-15) SALARY CAP: $69,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,605,833; BONUSES: $1,542,500 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,394,167
So you'd trade one of our young high end forwards for a project dman, but not for one whose scored 70 points twice 56 points and 30 goals before ? Seems logical
Bleacher Report reporting Mike Green for Tatar was "close" to being finalized earlier this afternoon. If true, this would cement the worst offseason I can remember for the Wings.
I've scoured bleacher report and the entire internet and found nothing of this. If you're going to post something saying such and such websites are saying something you better post a link, or else I and everyone else will just assume you've made it up.
1st the signing of Franzen over Hossa whoch now looks worse and worse.
Weiss signing over Filppula. Yes there was time where Filppula looked lost but let's face it at half the player he is better then Weiss. Those 25 goals and 33 assists would have looked nice on the roster last year.
He used his last buyout on Tootoo who was to make a little over 1 million this year on the last year of his deal...why?
This season its sitting back and watching other teams pick up players. I know the Red Wings aren't really a destination anymore but I wouldn't have bitched even if the Red Wings took a 1 year flyer on Heatley. Which he ended up signing for 1 million with Anaheim.
Hell they should have just bit the bullet and brought legwand back.
Now there is no promise that even Alfredsson will come back. Also with the talks of trading Tatar for Green I just don't know anymore.
I've tried soo hard to support Holland but I just can't anymore.
Filppula was offered roughly the same contract he signed with tampa but for 7 years, he turned it down, went to free agency, circled back to the wings but they had already used up their cap space.
Hossa was offered the same contract they gave Franzen, he turned it down so they went with plan b and signed Franzen.
I really hope Cleary just goes on ltir all year again. But I know he will be in the top 6 for a while, I didn't want to believe it was possible. I guess I just like to give #fireholland the benefit of the doubt too much.... Well we're done until Alfie is ready to sign
I understand that point believe me but if you compare to some less demanding, physical sports and what the guys there are making it's almost nothing. I can tell you one thing for sure, if the Wings would have had a superstar like that to sign now, the caphit wouldn't be much different, wheter we like it or not it's the truth that's exactly why longer contract length was a nice loophole
Chicago only had 1 alternative: letting them go and that would have set back their franchise not only in terms of performance but also in terms of recognition and UFAs rwilling to sign there.
You can't compare baseball football basketball or soccer go hockey no matter how you phrase it. Those sports all make way more money than hockey. The fact is the owners lock the players out demanding they make less money then turn around right after and give them even more money.
For what the teams make in hockey, those two players make too much money, yeah they are good, but they aren't the absolute best players in the league, Sven though they are paid as such.
Consider this, Crawford an excruciatingly average goaltender makes $6million a year, why? Because they won the cup so why not? Chicago seems to way overvalue their players and it will be their downfall. They can't keep giving every player top 5 pay in the league if they win a Stanley cup. You would think they would have learned that after 2010, guess not.
Toews and Kane are worth $8-8.5 a year, not 10.5 and definitely not 12. Well if the cap is going up, we better give nyquist an 8 year $50million contract when his expires next season...
he just signed a 1 year one way contract that starts after this upcoming season, for sure he will be the back up, plus holland already said that was the case, even contemplated making him the back up this year.