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#2530738 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Euro_Twins on 09 July 2014 - 08:41 AM

We have $10million in cap space, yes we have the room to take the chance on him.


#2530737 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Euro_Twins on 09 July 2014 - 08:40 AM

We have had serious injury issues for three season now. Yes getting rid of Bert and Sammy will help. But the others are still here. Do I expect D and Z to play more games this season? yes i do. But that alone will not make a dramatic improvement in our team. Even when healthy we are not a great team, we are average at best. Plus the more they play the less others will play. The minutes have to come from somewhere.
 
As for the cap, the best guess is on cap geek. per cap geek we have 6.5 million left in cap today BEFORE resigning Tatar and Dekeyser. Resigning those 2 will eat up another 3.5-4 million. That will leave us around 3 million heading into the fall, baring any other moves. If/when Alfie and Cleary are resigned, most of that will be gone. You have to keep in mind we are 3 million short in cap space this year because of bonuses paid for last season-most of which goes to Alfie. So yes my original statement stands: roster is full and we are out of cap space. Could moves be made to change that? Yes. Will any happen? Doubtful. 

Its been a 3 year issue, which of course you know. same cast of players is not going to fix that problem. make all the excuses you want, but we will have 250+ man games lost by the end of the 2014/15 season. 


Actually with the bonuses factored in (which capgeek already does) we have just over $10mil in cap space. So no were not up against the cap


#2530704 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Euro_Twins on 08 July 2014 - 07:54 PM

 

Soooo you're agreeing with me? I can't tell.  I was arguing that Green would put up 55 points. aka be successful in our system.

 

yes, I was agreeing with you, and just adding to what you were saying. Apparantly if a dman doesn't put up 60+ points he isn't very good according to some people...

 

and to those that want to reiterate, yes he isn't great defensively, but why should he have to be, like i said if he isn't spending much time in his own end, there's no need to worry about being amazing in his own end, that's what dekeyser/ericssonis for




#2530694 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Euro_Twins on 08 July 2014 - 06:50 PM

 
Kronwall hit 49 this past season.  I dont think 55 for Mike Green is out of the question considering his skillset.


Ya, and babs wants an offensive rh defenseman, he's been quoted saying so several times. We played more defensively because we have no choice. Our dmen can't move the puck out. Like I said we had rafalski lidstrom Stuart and kronwall before. If we got a guy like green dekeyser could stay back and make up for his mistakes and green could make our transition game so much better and put up a lot of points in the process. We would have 2 great pp qb's and two very good offensive dmen, and I guarantee we instantly become a much much better team


#2530668 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Euro_Twins on 08 July 2014 - 05:08 PM

A realist would realize just how bizarre last season was when it came to injuries

 

exactly, no way andersson plays top 6 minutes again, guys were dropping like flies last year, and the olympics didn't help. This year we can expect a much more resilient team, and a better outcome at the end of the year




#2530665 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Euro_Twins on 08 July 2014 - 05:06 PM

also iginla was much older, and no longer in his prime... so that is not a good comparison at all, also a forward no dman. try comparing apples to apples, instead of apples to car parts


This team needs a shake up, it has become to complacent. Too many guys think they are "untouchable" and have been lackluster, for the most part. this is exactly the type of move we need to make, we can replace Tatars points, we have enough top 6 potential in GR that one or two guys easily could replicate what we lose in tatar, I love Tatar, but I like Nyquist more.




#2530653 Red Wings Target Mike Green

Posted by Euro_Twins on 08 July 2014 - 04:17 PM

i dont give a f*** what kind of points he can put up when he cant play defense. 

 

we have enough guys that play too much defense already, we need someone to get the puck out, and what difference does it make that he isn't great defensively if he is rarely in his own end anyway? Rafalski was terrible defensively, yet we all loved him, and we need another guy like that. Green is a notch above rafalski IMO




#2530500 Marchenko

Posted by Euro_Twins on 07 July 2014 - 08:57 PM

I'm hoping this positive experience with Marchenko will warm the Wings to taking more Russian born players. I think we have passed on some real talent in the past due to the russian factor.


Which sucks considering some of my favorite players were Russians. Attitude or not, they got s*** done!


#2530489 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Euro_Twins on 07 July 2014 - 07:21 PM

I don't see the Quincey trade as "backfiring"....I know he's a favorite whipping boy around here, but like him or not...we've had two years of top six defense play for the #19 draft pick.  It would typically take several years to get the player you pick at 19 to give you two years of NHL play

 

lol "top six defense" there are only 6 dmen on any given night, thats like calling someone a top 12 forward. and most nights it is a stretch to even call him "top 6"




#2530427 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by Euro_Twins on 07 July 2014 - 02:03 PM

Good point about Babcock...until he is gone, this team is stuck in a rut.  Legwand waived his NTC because he wanted to play here, but after what Babcock did to him, he bolted.  Babcock is the issue why no good UFA wants to come here...and its no secret why Canada is going in a different direction for their Olympic team next time.


Ya those gold medals he won were awful. And legwand bolted because of babs and not because Holland didn't want to re sign him right?

I got a bridge to sell if you're interested


#2530295 John Gibson's Pac Man mask for 2014

Posted by Euro_Twins on 06 July 2014 - 07:27 PM

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#2530206 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by Euro_Twins on 06 July 2014 - 12:24 AM

Would I rather be the Red Wings and make the playoffs every year, but not win the Cup every single year or be Edmonton, Buffalo, NYI, Florida, Carolina, Toronto, etc. who have "tanked it" for years now and are still no closer to a Stanley Cup than the Red Wings?  Damn right I would.
 
"Tanking it" is no guarantee of anything.  The Wings already re-tooled "on the fly" once and made it back to win one cup and almost a second. 
 
Edmonton, Carolina, Tampa, amongst other teams, all had Stanley Cups on their resume and quickly became non playoff teams.  Chicago and LA are more the exception than the rule.  Talent doesn't always translate into wins.  There is much more to it than that.
 
No team, in any sport, competes for a championship every single year for decades at a time. 


We have 23 straight playoffs appearances and 4 cups in that time.

The Bruins made the playoffs 29 straight times and won 2 cups in that time

Blackhawks had 28 straight playoffs appearances and 0 cups in that time

The blues 25 straight. 0 cups

Canadiens 24 straight. 8 cups

Every other one is below us in playoffs streaks. So aside from Montreal and their unreal streak I would say our playoff streak and cup wins in that time is right up there and better than anyone but Montreal. So Ya we've stumbled a bit recently but we've done well for ourselves.


#2530203 Dont Jump Yet...

Posted by Euro_Twins on 06 July 2014 - 12:08 AM

No dude, there's no sugar coating this one. We got crushed. We got decimated. We got embarrassed. 5 goals in 5 games is straight up shut down.

The Bruins down right outplayed us in every single game and if it wasn't for a tremendous amount of posts and whiffed shots on open nets (ahem, Marchand), the score would have been a massacre.

Out of all the playoff series, including Tampa bay, I honestly would say ours was the most one sided. There was never a doubt in anyone's mind Boston would lose this.

If you can't see this for what it is, than your rose colored glasses are as bright as Holland's.


Ummm Tampa was swept and never stood a chance without bishop. They were more one sided than ours.


#2530200 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by Euro_Twins on 05 July 2014 - 11:48 PM

 
I honestly think they are trying to build and maintain a culture here where players feel safe and appreciated.  Where if they have go through a slump, they won't fear being traded or instantly replaced.
 
Obviously they go to extremes at times.(Cleary) But sometimes the message sent can have a more profound impact down the road than the immediate repercussions.
 
I'm sure many believe that fear can motivate a player but I don't think that's a stable way of doing business.  I just don't see us trading roster players unless there's an issue with attitude or commitment or just too many bodies.
 
We definitely struck out this year in free agency.  No looking past that.  That's on management.  Injuries...that's a tough thing to place blame on.


I blame it on trainers and conditioning coaches


#2530153 Can Z and Pav do anything to protest? (not that they would)

Posted by Euro_Twins on 05 July 2014 - 07:25 PM

Try watching Hank's post game after being eliminated by the Bruins and tell me that's not a player on the verge of wanting out.


I did and his interview after. He was upset after losing to Boston in his first game back. He didn't want to talk to anyone. He was much more optimistic about the teams future in the next interview.