There you have it: six feet from the horse's mouth.
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You need good scouting and proper development in order to get value from your draft picks, as well as a solid plan (looking at you, Oilers), but a high percentage of the elite players come from the top half of the first round. Last year's top 8 scorers were first round picks, 3 first overall, a 2nd, a 5th, then 19th, 22nd, and 28th. Looking at the top 30 scorers, only 6 were taken outside of the first round, and 18 of the 30 were top 10 picks. Looking at defensemen by TOI/gm, 12 of the top 30 were first rounders, and 7 were taken in the second. Given that 18 year old defensemen are harder to project, that makes sense, but it still shows that you're far more likely to get a #1 defenseman in the first round than you are in any other round.
They didn't. Yzerman and Fedorov were better players.
Ya, two of the best players in the league aren't comparable to two of the best players of the league. They were in a much higher scoring league then the one z and d grew up in, no one will ever rack up the points those guys did anymore. But we replaced them with some "possible top 6 complimentary pieces"
Talk about overhype ...Nyquist could turn into a star but it's also possible him only becoming a top 6 contributor and for me that's good enough.neither Nyquist nor Tatar will turn into Z or Pasha.It's funny reading how the team keeps winning although the best they've done is barely making the playoffs and not even sniffing at the third round dice almost 6 years.The sabers will have a very dangerous team in a few years and the isles where held back by an incompetent management and a penny pinching owner.The reality is also really simple the Holland will need some homerun drafts and prepare the Wings much better for the post Z and Pasha era, than he did with the post Lidas one.
I remember when z and d would never turn into Stevie and feds...
Start with '09, go back 15 years, find higher end players the Wings have taken after the second round.
Nyquist is probably going to be a top 6 player, he may or may not be more than a complimentary 60 point player. Franzen is Franzen. Filppula is inconsistent from year to year. Zetterberg in 99, Datsyuk in 98. So 2 elite players, 3 good guys who aren't elite and in 2 cases aren't even that good for stretches, and some role players. Sure it's better than some teams, but there are people who act like the Wings get some star player late in the draft every couple years, and they knew for a fact that Zetterberg and Datsyuk were going to be stars. Neither is true.
The reason I'm not looking at the older drafts is that the rules have changed completely. Russians weren't drafted int he 80's because they had to be snuck out of the country. Not every player was willing to do that, and it took a lot of resources to get the ones who did want to come. They had to have contacts in Russia, ind the right people to bribe and spend the money to do it, and find a way to get the player, and his family in some cases, out of the country. The Wings were one of the few teams that had an owner who was able and willing to commit to that.
The red wings are far and away the best draft team and its widely recognized as such even by other teams announcers. We don't get high end draft spots cause we never miss the playoffs. So no we didn't get a toews, Kane, ovie, Malkin, Crosby, Tavares, or so on. We make our own superstars. Nyquist WILL be a star, so there you go, Tatar may be a grind it top 6 tough as nails type player, but the goose is loose, and everyone knows it. We won a cup through the draft basically. All these teams tanking to win... The same three teams keep winning and the sabres, islanders, Panthers, oilers, as well as others always getting these top 5 picks but somehow never win are getting top end talents every year. We keep winning without tanking.
We took guys like Datsyuk in late rounds because we knew we could. No one else scouted him. Or like with Zetterberg, Hakan saw something no one else did. I can't remember but wasn't Zberg like really underweight kid when we drafted him? Or something like that.
As was datsyuk. They were "small soft euros" and they turned into two of the best nil players of their time.
Other teams get lucky with one guy on their team drafted late that turned into a star. The wings however have stocked the shelves with great talents I'n late rounds and won a cup. We have nyquist, Tatar, and possibly others coming up now that "we just got lucky with" and we had filppula and hudler before too. We are very good at late round drafts and we don't have to rank to win. Its the one thing I can't knock Holland for.
That being said I think he shouldn't have been extended still.
This isn't a knock on Pavs, but the Hockey Hall of Fame is the easiest HOF to get into, Dats will get in. He'll retire with 2 Cups (at least) and over 300 career goals.
I'll take Fedorov over Datsyuk. Feds won the Hart, 3 Cups, and had 30 or more goals in a season 10 times. Fedorov career's better then Datsyuk, Datsyuk is in, so no question Fedorov.
Dats also has 532 assists already. He could easily be over 600-650 when he retires and is just shy of Beijing a ppg player his entire career (804 points in 824 games) that's good enough for me, without even taking into consideration his two way play. That just puts him over the top.
That does not mean he's going to be fired at all lol. Red Wings fans HATE Holland right now and the guy just got an extension. Why? Because 99% of fans are blithering idiots who can't see past the next immediate season, so I'm sure the organization really couldn't care less what we think.
EDIT: There's no option available better than Holland
Thanks for calling me a blithering idiot it's not just missing out on fa's it's also stuff like bringing Cleary back twice, quincey, Sammy, among others. Holland can't let go, and that in turn helps free agents decisions to not want to come here. If he was building a team that would be good in the future I would be ok with him, but he constantly brings in guys who are useless to our team, and I've had enough. I've defended him for several years now, enough is enough
injuries are part of the game (sadfully)
every team has to deal with them
Top contenders like Boston had to play without Seidenberg, also known as 50 % of their top pairing, a few seasons ago Pittsburgh was without Crosby AND Malkin for a long period of time. The Blues went into the playoffs injured and lost Backes for a good amount of time - it's part of the game. Some people are making it sound like the only thing holding the Wings back are injuries, that's clearly not the case.
As a team gets older injuries are becoming more frequently so come back to the topic: will a 42 old Alfredsson reduce the injury problems ? Highly unlikely, he didn't have anything left for the second half of the season last year and it wasn't just because of injuries the guy was gased.
Other teams have long figured out how to play against this team and the problems have been the same since 2009. Alfie is not a guy that can create space or tank his way to the net, he is another older perimeter player who badly wants a cup. I really like thim and would love sseing him a cup but it's not happening here, so I don't understand him nor Brodeur why are they putting their older bodies through this grind again ? Both are multimultimillionaires and they don't have to do it for money that's for sure.
The blues got demolished. Boston got knocked out, as did Pittsburgh. All of those teams did not win cups when they had those injuries.