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#2623705 Franzen back on ice

Posted by Playmaker on 22 August 2015 - 07:15 AM

I always feel bipolar when it comes to Franzen.  One minute I want to defend him, and the next, I want to punch that stupid ass grin off his face because he's so damn frustrating to watch.   You see the stats and think damn, he's still good. Look at the points.  But then you watch the games and you see him get knocked down and then he looks around waiting for the call and then ever so slowly gets to one knee and then stops and then finally gets up and moseys on over to the bench while the play is going on in the other end.  Then you see him score 7 goals in 10 games or whatever and you think hot damn, the old Franzen is back!  Then he's hardly noticeable for the next 20 games and the Wings are losing games and not scoring worth a damn and there he is on tv like wuh??   Who me????  I'm not a goal scorer.  I'm a defensive specialist!  STFU. Did you tell Ken Holland you were just a defensive specialist when you signed the long term deal?  Then it's, well, his cap hit is a bargain for the points he scores, right?


On the health front, knowing what the medical community knows now about concussions and you have a guy who's already said he's had life altering symptoms trying to come back with a wife and kids, and you think what a selfish moron for putting himself at risk like that. Thank you for 2008, go back to Sweden and have a nice life. Then the next minute you think wow, he must really be dedicated to try and come back from this.  But will a guy at his advanced age and history of multiple concussions really contribute much?  Do we want him taking up a roster spot?  But what if can come back and chip in 20 goals?  Or would it just be better having that cap space if he goes on LTIR really be better for all involved?


I guess it all comes down to expectations and potential.  They guy has all the physical gifts.  Year after year, you hear the Wings need a big tough winger who can score.  That could and should be Franzen, but it isn't.  You wonder if its his health.  Then he and the team say no.  Next thing you know,  Franzen is out for multiple games with some "mystery" ailment.  


I'm decidedly undecided on the guy.

#2623643 Z and Emma expecting

Posted by Playmaker on 20 August 2015 - 08:55 PM

I don't really care.  He can name him Marshmallow if he wants.  But for those of us who work with kids on a regular basis and have to deal with their pretentious parents who can't believe that you can't pronounce or spell the unique name of their special little flower, have a bit of a different perspective on it  ;)


I'm sure no one here would give Sidney Crosby s*** for giving his kid a "unique, special name" 

#2620754 33,487 Miles

Posted by Playmaker on 17 July 2015 - 07:40 AM

Those saying that the travel is no big deal are clearly those who haven't had to travel. 

#2619779 Retire Sergei Fedorovís Jersey Immediately

Posted by Playmaker on 09 July 2015 - 10:09 AM

Sparky Anderson had to die before Mike Ilitch would let go of the grudge with him and retire his number.  He won't retire Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker's numbers, for what reason, I can't even imagine.    They had the numbers, the championship, the longevity, stellar off field personalities. 


"We" can all talk about forgiving him and grudges, but we weren't the ones who had to try and scramble to come up with $28 million dollars to cover a check to Fedorov on a team still fresh off the a Stanley Cup win and the shock of the limo accident. Not to mention that it involved Pete Karamanos just to add salt to the wound.  Just when Detroit was ready to forgive and forget, he bolted for Anaheim. It really isn't a secret that Mike Ilitch loves to reward players, but he also expects loyalty in return.  So when you consider Fedorov basically spit on him, not once but twice, it's not that hard to see why Ilitch wouldn't be rushing to raise #91 to the rafters.  His team, his rules.


I'm not really sure how it was "well known" that Fedorov had marital problems, because it wasn't even known he was married to Kournikova until years later.  In fact, she still denies it ever happened. That whole situation was a total embarrassment.   But it just reinforces the point that Fedorov couldn't keep his off ice problems there.   It also makes it that much more amazing when you see how guys like Yzerman and Lidstrom handled things, kept their private lives private and always got contract negotiations done with relatively little drama. 

#2618637 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by Playmaker on 02 July 2015 - 07:46 AM

I guess I'm in the minority, but I never give a single thought to what number a player is going to wear.

#2618586 Red Wings sign D Mike Green (3-years, $18-million)

Posted by Playmaker on 01 July 2015 - 09:19 PM

An offensive defenseman under 30 with a RH shot on a short term deal?  Even if he does end up being subpar on the back end, it's really hard to find fault with this deal.  When you consider what's out there (or what isn't out there) and the prices that those guys are demanding, kind of hard to find any negatives to it.

#2617758 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by Playmaker on 30 June 2015 - 08:58 PM

I know Wings fans hate to hear it, but Weiss and Alfredsson were considered the top 2 free agents that summer. 

#2617753 Weiss bought out (confirmed)

Posted by Playmaker on 30 June 2015 - 08:53 PM

This reminds me of one of the things I really didn't like about Babcock, though I didn't dislike him overall.


I don't think he put a lot of guys, most of those mentioned and David Legwand comes to mind as well, in a position to succeed.  Every guy is not a two way player that can play all three forward positions on all four lines. Seems like he was hell bent on forcing square pegs into round holes.   Not to sound like Dennis Green, but they are what we thought they were.  This is where I think there was a disconnect between Holland and Babcock.  Hated the Tootoo signing and he always annoyed me, but I actually felt sorry for him and for how he was treated.  Feeling the same with Weiss, although I think injuries were a major part of his issue.  I'm a little disappointed that we won't get to see if he could have succeeded with Babcock gone.

#2617052 Dougie hamilton to calgary

Posted by Playmaker on 27 June 2015 - 06:08 PM

I don't disagree with you there.  A true #1 defenseman with an offensive side and capable of being a PP QB would be nice.  Holland seemed to put all his eggs in one basket with assuming he'd get Suter, and when that didn't happen, he sort of did nothing.  At the same time, the Wings just don't have a lot to offer in terms of assets.  Since Suter, I don't think there's really been a whole lot out there in terms of defensemen who fit with what the Wings need at a price that makes sense.

#2616690 Dougie hamilton to calgary

Posted by Playmaker on 26 June 2015 - 05:16 PM



It's so much better to miss the playoffs, have cap issues and trade away guys for picks.  Damn, why can't the Wings do that?

#2615369 Sean Avery - Transition Season

Posted by Playmaker on 19 June 2015 - 07:30 PM

He was, and still is, a classless dick.  He doesn't come off as even remotely sincere in the article.  Wow, he flew one flight economy class.  What a warrior. 

#2610112 Z and Emma expecting

Posted by Playmaker on 25 May 2015 - 07:46 PM

These crazy immigrants coming to the US popping out babies just to get citizenship.  Sheesh.


I'm kind of thinking that it has more to do with the fact her physician is likely here and they've mentioned many a few times they plan on residing here after his retirement.  The citizenship rules are somewhat broad and pretty much anyone can play for any country with any kind of distant connection to a country.

#2609788 Babcock says good-bye in full page ad. SIAP

Posted by Playmaker on 22 May 2015 - 06:49 PM


It was the right thing to say considering she didn't want to leave.  Like you said, own your decision.  You wanted to leave Detroit.  Not your wife. 

Bah, what good is having a wife if you can't blame her for s***?  ;)   She got 50 million reasons to leave Detroit.  Toronto at least makes sense.  Buffalo never did to me.  


What about that mall they have?  Don't women like malls?  


I wonder how many posters here get what incident(s) you're referring to?  

Probably all the old ones.  ;)  

#2609737 Babcock says good-bye in full page ad. SIAP

Posted by Playmaker on 22 May 2015 - 02:56 PM

Shanny called Mrs. B personally and said he'd make her feel right at home.

#2609204 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by Playmaker on 20 May 2015 - 07:04 PM

I brought this up awhile ago and everyone* told me it wasn't a thing :lol:

I'm willing to bet it might become a thing...

*like one person

Note to Babs:  Keep a realgud eye on Mrs. Babs with Shanny around.