Jump to content


Playmaker's Photo

Playmaker

Member Since 02 Nov 2012
Offline Last Active Private
-----

#2459437 11/29 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Islanders 0

Posted by Playmaker on 30 November 2013 - 07:06 AM

 

I have Mild Mental Retardation & the Rare Disease Kearns-Sayre Syndrome. I was in Special ED throughout Grade School and High School. I don't take any Med's what's so ever. I've been a Detroit Red Wings Fan Since 1986 since I was born. My Dad's a Big Montreal Canadians Fan. 

It's cool Andrew, welcome to LGW.  A few posters here suffer from Foot in Mouth disease.




#2459436 Ericsson names daughter "Liv" in honor of Stefan Liv

Posted by Playmaker on 30 November 2013 - 06:59 AM

Now that my days are numbered as I head down the home stretch of Mortality Lane, I've come to realize exactly that: Life is neither a race nor an endurance event, but rather a relay event.

Not a religious sort, T. Low, but you and your family are in my thoughts frequently.




#2459119 Weiss

Posted by Playmaker on 29 November 2013 - 09:33 AM

I really don't get why some players are given an automatic pass and others aren't.  We can't play the whole damn team with Datsyuk to produce.  He was given a big contract to come in and be a #2 center.  He was supposedly a #1 center in Florida and this was supposed to be a no brainer. Now people are  happy if he just doesn't suck while he's out there?  It's unbelievable. 




#2458034 I'd like to talk about this off-season/next season

Posted by Playmaker on 24 November 2013 - 08:42 PM

If you take a look at the UFA defensemen available at the end of this season, well, the pickins are slim.  I'm just not expecting much, to be honest.  We were in this exact position 2 season ago, lots of space and we came away with a whole lot of nothing. 




#2457680 What Does This Team Need More/Most?

Posted by Playmaker on 24 November 2013 - 02:33 PM

 

My issue there is it shouldn't have come to that. It shouldn't have been Suter-and-Parise-or-bust. It should've been, "Well, we'd certainly love to have Suter and Parise, but we'll still be in very good shape if we don't land them." Instead, it was "We need these guys (more Suter than Parise) or we're majorly screwed." Tellingly, right after we struck out there, Holland's big thing became The Central Importance of Drafting Well and Promoting from Within, Not Trying to Bring in Outside Help. Because that's never been the Red Wing way! (*cough '99*, *cough '02*)

I haven't been happy at all with what Holland has been doing of late, but really, how exactly do you replace the Perfect Human?  You don't.  As was stated earlier, it isn't like offensive defenseman grow on trees It isn't like they passed up on a superstar thinking they had Lidstrom forever. Nick was on a totally year to year basis and no one would have been surprised if he had played another 5 years.  Rafalski totally caught the Wings off guard by retiring when he did.  They thought they had him for another few years at least.  He made a move to replace Brad Stuart in acquiring Kyle Quincey.  His success with LA and Colorado made it a somewhat reasonable move.  Holland could not have predicted how horribly he would play.

 

With the lack of high draft picks the Wings have had, it's amazing that they have the depth they do in the minors.  So long as they still have stars, Holland will always believe we're just a veteran away from being a contender.  Holland has made it clear that he likes vets better than youth.  It is what it is. 




#2457643 What Does This Team Need More/Most?

Posted by Playmaker on 24 November 2013 - 01:28 PM

I think what really kills me is how good our last Cup-winning team was. And it wasn't because we'd gotten lucky in the draft or signed 80 all-star UFAs. It was just a really, really well-built team. There was a guiding vision and a strong identity, like frank talked about. We had everything you'd need to beat any team in a best-of-seven series: tons of skill, tons of (*high-quality*) sandpaper, a great goalie tandem, and a brilliant, hungry coach who felt he had something to prove.

 

How could The Powers That Be (Ken Holland) let things get so far away from that? What happened to just being super-smart and shrewd, as opposed to bloated and complacent? I mean, when Holland says, "You've just gotta make it into the playoffs, then anybody can win it"...does he honestly believe that? And don't point to LA. I hate it when people do that. Yes, they came in as an 8th seed, but that was a damn good team. And, interestingly enough, you know how their Powers That Be made it so damn good? They took an honest, sober look at the team and said, "You know what? We need to make changes." And that's what they did. They seriously addressed their weaknesses, and it paid off in the biggest of ways. They didn't say, "Hey, we're the LA Kings. No one even thought we'd make it this far. We're ahead of schedule. Let's just be happy about that and see where things go from there. Then, if it looks like we need to make changes, we'll make changes, provided we can find a dance partner who's willing to work with us. Because, you know, there's no Hockey Store. Derp." They didn't say that. They were highly objective.

 

So you say, "OK, fine. You wish Holland had done things differently. What would you have done differently, since you're so smart?"

 

Firstly, I'm not saying I'm so smart. I'm not saying I'd be a better GM than Ken Holland. We seriously take for granted what it takes to do the job he does. But, at the same time, we're a proud, winning organization...and now we're flopping about like a fish out of water on the deck of a boat. And I've gotta think Mr. I would say that's unacceptable, even if it is somewhat understandable. (No GM is going to be able to ice a legitimate contender every season. Doesn't work that way. We all know this.)

 

The big thorn in my side, the thing I always find myself coming back to, is Lidstrom's departure. It's crystal clear now that he wasn't just a legendary player for this team and organization - he was this team and organization, at least post-Yzerman. And, as far as I can tell, Holland just flat-out dropped the ball on the Nick-will-be-retiring-any-season-now-and-we're-gonna-have-to-be-more-than-ready front. Like, I get not being able to replace #5. But, holy crap, man, give us a better safety cushion than...um...nothing?! (OK, fine - Carlo Colaiacovo and Kyle Quincey.) And that's saying nothing of Stuart and Rafalski. We lose Stuart, Lidstrom, Rafalski, and...well, look at our friggin' blue line! What the hell happened there?!

 

But I could go on for days.

 

/weekly rant

I think it all went awry when the Wings were unable to secure Suter and Parise.  This team would have a totally different look and feel to it.  Once he lost out, he had no Plan B, and he still doesn't.




#2456586 Nyquist Getting the call

Posted by Playmaker on 22 November 2013 - 09:32 AM

The most frustrating thing is that if Holland really wanted to get Gus on the roster earlier he could have. Your telling me that out of 29 other NHL teams they wouldn't take a player for a 7th round draft pick some 3 years down the line? I dont care who the player is someone would accept a deal like that. Instead we got the same ol "kicking the tires on trades" rhetoric all year

No one wanted Emmerton, Eaves or Tootoo for FREE, why would they want to give up a draft pick for them?




#2456437 11/21 GDT: Hurricanes 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by Playmaker on 21 November 2013 - 10:01 PM

Tatar will be in the press box next game after that give away.




#2456380 11/21 GDT: Hurricanes 3 at Red Wings 4

Posted by Playmaker on 21 November 2013 - 09:51 PM

He obviously isn't going to score like he did in Grand Rapids without all the PP time.




#2455831 Nyquist Getting the call

Posted by Playmaker on 20 November 2013 - 04:57 PM

 

He is right, though.  Kids are never supposed to be the centerpiece of a successful team.  You infuse the lineup with youth but never rely on them.  Here's where it gets interesting.  If that is Holland's philosophy, then it contradicts his "we have to roll with what we have" mantra of the past few years.  If you promote from within, you are relying on your youth.

 

The best strategy, which as always worked, is create a core of players in their prime, add some veteran presence and insert one or two kids to keep energy up and to gain experience.  

 

For all the bashing of Holland re-signing vets and Babcock's stupid lineups, we do ice DeKeyser, Smith, Lashoff, Andersson and Tatar.  I don't know how that stacks up league-wide, but that is a lot of kids.  It's just not a lot of GOOD kids.

Last I checked, we had guys like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Weiss, Alfredsson, Bertuzzi.  How is that making Nyquist and Tatar the "centerpiece"?

 

Nyquist, Smith, and Andersson are 24.  DeKeyser  and Lashoff are 23.  Tatar is 22.  It's not like we're putting in 18 year olds. 

 

That "strategy" worked when we could spend unlimited amounts of money on players and Hakan Andersson could pull a rabbit out of a hat and we could fill the gaps left by not getting high draft picks.




#2455813 Holland Interview

Posted by Playmaker on 20 November 2013 - 04:03 PM

I'd rather watch the Wings struggle with the likes of Tatar, Nyquist, Jurco, etc, than to suck with the "real men" like Cleary, Samuelsson, Bertuzzi and Alfredsson.

 

The Wings just don't have the depth that they used to and the luxury of outspending other teams and nursing along players and easing them in when they're 24 or 25.  Back in the day, Alfredsson would be a 3rd or 4th line player, not depended upon to be a top 6 player. 




#2455797 Holland Interview

Posted by Playmaker on 20 November 2013 - 03:25 PM

 

Agreed. But I don't think Holland has trouble understanding this. To me, it just sounded like he was cautioning against expectations that Nyquist was going to be the answer to The Wings current problems. He did say, short of bringing in a game-changing superstar that no one player can fix what;s broken, that this is a team-wide issue and that they have to play better (secondary scoring and defense) "as a team".

 

I can live with this sentiment. Personally, I'm pumped that Nyquist is most likely getting called up, and is here to stay. But Red Wings fans have got it so band these days, that #freenyquist has become a thing, like he was the Nelson Mandella or ***** Riot of hockey.  Goose can only do so much.

It's not like when DeKeyser joined the Wings last season that it totally turned things around, eh?  No he wasn't the total answer, but an infusion of youth and talent can do wonders some times.  I get not bringing up 19 year olds, but cripes, Nyquist is 24, played US College Hockey, been in the minors several years, if he's not ready now, he never will be.




#2455775 Nyquist Getting the call

Posted by Playmaker on 20 November 2013 - 02:54 PM

This is a men’s league…  Kids are not the answer”.

 

After hearing that from Holland from his interview with Matt Dery, I've totally lost any hope that Holland is the guy to move this team into the next phase.  Thanks for what he's done, but time to move on to someone who can change with the times.




#2453962 What would you do?...

Posted by Playmaker on 15 November 2013 - 05:37 PM

The only players whose contracts expire next year are: Samuelsson, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Alfredsson, Quincey, Ericsson, Gustavsson and Eaves.  The RFAs who will need to be locked up will be DeKeyser and Tatar.

 

With our glut of forwards, the only one I think Holland will even offer to re-sign will be Alfredsson and Bertuzzi.  Maybe not even Bertuzzi.  Realistically, Alfredsson may not be back.  On defense, only Ericsson has earned a new contract, Gustavsson may be brought back, but he won't get a raise, at least not substantial.  Eaves will be gone as well.  That's 16.8 million freed up (even considering Alfredsson's deferred bonus).

 

16.8 plus the cap going up to the high 60 million runs us around 22-23 million.

 

We will need to sign or re-sign a backup goalie and Ericsson, but beyond that we don't NEED to fill any positions.  I'd still like to upgrade a few, but we'll have enough to ice a team.  

 

Ericsson will take 5 million hopefully.  Gustavsson, or whoever is our backup, will make between 1 and 2 million.  That leaves us with 15 million to play with, give or take a few million.  That's two really good players.  If any such players will be entering the free agent market this summer.

 

The only players whose contracts expire next year are: Samuelsson, Bertuzzi, Cleary, Alfredsson, Quincey, Ericsson, Gustavsson and Eaves.  The RFAs who will need to be locked up will be DeKeyser and Tatar.

 

With our glut of forwards, the only one I think Holland will even offer to re-sign will be Alfredsson and Bertuzzi.  Maybe not even Bertuzzi.  Realistically, Alfredsson may not be back.  On defense, only Ericsson has earned a new contract, Gustavsson may be brought back, but he won't get a raise, at least not substantial.  Eaves will be gone as well.  That's 16.8 million freed up (even considering Alfredsson's deferred bonus).

 

16.8 plus the cap going up to the high 60 million runs us around 22-23 million.

 

We will need to sign or re-sign a backup goalie and Ericsson, but beyond that we don't NEED to fill any positions.  I'd still like to upgrade a few, but we'll have enough to ice a team.  

 

Ericsson will take 5 million hopefully.  Gustavsson, or whoever is our backup, will make between 1 and 2 million.  That leaves us with 15 million to play with, give or take a few million.  That's two really good players.  If any such players will be entering the free agent market this summer.

Hey, awesome, we will have lots of cap space and Suter and Parise are UFAs!  We're set!




#2453920 Patrick Eaves on Waivers

Posted by Playmaker on 15 November 2013 - 03:55 PM

 

Wow, that's backasswards. Kenny waived players he knew would clear AFTER he signed them to deals that would clear.

 

In other words, you're saying that Holland is a good judge of the bad contracts he's offered.

 

1. Sign a player to a bad deal

2. Waive said player knowing he will clear

3. Profit

 

That's being a good judge of talent and value?

I agree, actually it's 3 players he's waived if you count Emmerton.  So nobody will take them for free, but yet people expect we can trade them for something? 

 

I was so geeked after the playoffs last year, thinking the Wings finally "got it" and we were going to go with the young players and we'd buy out some of the bad deals and move forward to a bright future.  This seems like a totally lost season, based solely on bad management decisions.  We have a ton of salary and players being shed from the books this summer, but to do what with?  We had a similar situation in 2012, and we have nothing to show for it.  I have no expectations that the Wings will make smart decisions with the roster and cap room.  Especially when I read things like Cleary had been offered a three year deal and Flip was offered a 7 year deal.  I just can't even imagine the thought process behind this.