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#2520590 ECSF : (4) Montreal Canadiens vs. (1) Boston Bruins

Posted by Playmaker on 15 May 2014 - 07:20 AM

Wait a minute, thought Boston was the perfect team, had toughness, an elite goalie, "heart" and character, the perfect GM,and they're going home ?  Just goes to show you just never know and even the perfect teams don't always win.

#2519892 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by Playmaker on 09 May 2014 - 05:23 PM

I wouldn't really care if Tom Renney goes, I'd actually rather he did leave.    He was brought in specifically to improve the PP and hasn't done that.  I think bringing in new assistants has kept things fresh and brought new ideas. 

#2519857 Regner: Next year could be Babcock's last

Posted by Playmaker on 09 May 2014 - 01:54 PM

Next year might be Babcock's last...........or it might not be.  It's basically, it's the offseason and there's not much else to talk about, so let's get some conversation going. 

#2519145 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by Playmaker on 04 May 2014 - 06:36 AM


There have definitely been stretches where Franzen hasn't been giving all of his effort. Not gonna stick up for him for that ever. The thing is, even when he is working his ass off but not scoring, he is still accused of floating. He has become that much of a whipping boy that not scoring automatically means he is not trying. I saw a hard working Franzen in the playoffs. He wasn't driving the net as much as he should have, but he was still skating. If he works, I have no issue with him being here. Because even if he isn't scoring, he is responsible in his own end. It is just a matter of having enough scoring depth that the team doesn't absolutely depend on him going into beast mode to win. If the team has that depth, his contract does not hinder the team one bit. Also, his dry spell this season was not nearly as bad as it was the season before last. IF he can avoid a head injury this coming season, I have no doubt he can be a very effective player for the team. It is just a matter of managing expectations of him. 


Even when Datsyuk came back from a concussion, he was hesitant to get into the dirty areas for a nice while. As someone who has had my bell rung when I was a teen, I can't really fault someone for not getting too involved with the rough stuff. Especially in a professional sport at that level. I still think next season when he is good and healthy again, the coaching staff should park him in front of the net on the PP. 

But this is nothing new for Franzen.  I've been holding out hope for several seasons now, making excuses for him and defending him, and ever year its lather, rinse, repeat.  


Is it a concussion or anxiety/mental illness or laziness, I really don't know.  But watching him out on the ice, he looks like he's just out of gas.  He looks so tired and lethargic, the way he skates, the way he shoots the puck, the way he hits.  There just seems to be no energy behind anything he does.   What frustrates me the most is when he gets knocked down or falls down.  While other players pop back up in an instant, it takes Franzen forever to get back to his feet, and even longer to get back into the play.  I find myself screaming at the TV.


I don't think that it's criticism for when he's not scoring goals.  No one gives Helm s*** when he doesn't score.  Because he's noticeable and is involved in the play and plays hard every shift.  Datsyuk and Zetterberg seem to have pointless or goalless streaks every year, but no one ever accuses them of being lazy or uninterested.


I agree 100% with what Babcock said about how Franzen handles the media.  Okay, we get it, you're shy and what not, but so is Datsyuk, so was Brad Stuart.  But you don't have to say idiotic things when you do talk.  Take some responsibility, act like you care, show an ounce of passion or something.  Stop with the "I'm not a goal scorer crap".  His attitude off the ice seems to reflect his play on the ice.  Fans would be much more apt to give Franzen the benefit of the doubt if he at least acted like he cared.

#2518900 ECSF : (4) Montreal Canadiens vs. (1) Boston Bruins

Posted by Playmaker on 02 May 2014 - 02:51 PM

Why would the bruins fans tweet racist comments to  pk,when his brother malcom is with the bruins ahl team.

Not to mention, they have an African American on their team (Iginla)


Montreal better starts moving their feet and tighten up defensively otherwise the Bruins are easily taking over and I can't wait for that. Bunch of divers, whiners and showboaters.


Also *lol* at everyone thinking that a whole fanbase can have no bad apples, newsflash every fanbase does and always will.The Habs fanbase is known for hating Anglos lifing in Montreal, Quebec AND for rioting after a win so that's disgusting.

True enough,  But I also think that it's fairly common knowledge that certain forms of discrimination are considered less heinous than others by whoever it is that makes the "rules".


The same day all the stuff hit the fan with Sterling, Shaquille O'Neal made a derogatory remark about a man with a rare genetic condition.  He said sorry, spoke with the guy and declared him cool and all is good and the media barely took notice.   

#2518446 Wings will buy out Tootoo, not Franzen.

Posted by Playmaker on 30 April 2014 - 07:52 PM

I don't get Holland saying he deserves to be an NHL player, but yet he isn't good enough to be on this team?  He's acting like he'd be doing him this huge favor.  If they wanted to do him a favor, why didn't they give him an honest chance to do what he does on this team?  I really didn't understand the signing at the time, but it made even less sense that they signed him, he played the way he has always played, and yet wasn't deemed to be a fit for this team. I think this was one player that Holland and Babcock definitely disagreed on. I wasn't a fan of Tootoo's before, but I appreciate the way he's handled things and hope that he gets a shot on another team. 

#2518277 Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

Posted by Playmaker on 29 April 2014 - 08:26 PM

Only you could argue that something costs $1.9 million and then claim that it was free in the same sentence :clap:  :bye1:

Only you could think an NHL player would play for no salary.  The original post said that Tootoo costs The Wings nothing and had trade potential.  Tootoo does cost the Wings because he is under contract with them for another year at $1.9 million and any team could have had him for free, meaning they would not have had to give anyone or anything up to get him as a player on their roster.  Which part of that was so hard to comprehend?


But again, your fascination with everything I say is flattering.

#2518258 Ken Holland Quotes (Apr 29th

Posted by Playmaker on 29 April 2014 - 07:35 PM




You don't buy out Tootoo because he costs nothing and is potentially tradable....

Actually, he costs 1.9 million, couldn't crack the lineup when absolutely everyone was out of the lineup, he cleared waivers 3 times and absolutely no one was interested in taking him for free.  

#2517687 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by Playmaker on 27 April 2014 - 03:50 PM

"Lazy" "Floater"

I still don't buy into those excuses.

He's never been fast. He's never been physical. He's average at D. He has a good wrister.... So basically when he's not scoring he's going to look pretty invisible no matter what u do. He isn't Zetterberg or Datsyuk. He doesn't have elite top line skills like them that get you noticed even in a slump. And that's why he's not paid like them.

He does have those skills for about 10 games a year.  Which is why he gets the criticism.  You see this big hulking guy out there with a wicked shot, skating hard, throwing his body around, going to the net, backchecking, being a pest.  The whole package.  Then there's the other 70 games of the year.  


Luke Glendenning scored more goals than Franzen in the playoffs and Franzen makes 8 times as much.  Alfredsson scored more goals in less games than Franzen in the regular season and made less money.  So if you want to compare stats...........  

#2515807 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by Playmaker on 25 April 2014 - 01:59 PM

The problem is that Holland has neglected size in this line up. We have capable top 6 youngsters but we need a big winger or two. Losing Franzen we are shrimps up front. I don't see too many high end power forwards on the market either

He doesn't play like 6'3, 225, he plays much smaller. Add that to all the other frustrating aspects of his game.  Darren Helm is a little guy, but he's out there busting his ass every single shift.  

#2515804 The Franzen Hate.

Posted by Playmaker on 25 April 2014 - 01:51 PM

You do realize we probably wouldn't have made the playoffs if it weren't for his ridiculous surge in the latter part of the season, right?


And if it's only the playoffs that matter, why did the Tigers ever get rid of Jhonny Peralta or Delmon Young? They weren't great during the season, but always showed up in the playoffs. People need to make up their minds.


Now, flame me.

But if he had made contributions earlier in the season and was more consistent, they would not have needed a late season surge to get into the playoffs.  His "beast mode" stretches were shorter and his ghost mode stretches were more the norm this season.  


FWIW, the Tigers got rid of Peralta because he was a UFA who was demanding a long term high salary deal on a team that had to pay other players (Verlander, Miggy, Scherzer)  Then of course there was the  PED suspension. Peralta had several solid regular seasons and wasn't a playoff only type of player. They parted with Delmon Young because he entirely one dimensional with an embarrassingly low OBP, was slower than snot and was pathetic defensively.  Then add in the off the field issues.  


To me, the benefits of buying out Franzen far outweigh the advantages of keeping him.  As was mentioned, this will be the only time the Wings can escape the albatross of a contract he has.  I shudder to think of how he will be 5 years from now.  Add to that he seems to have physical and mental issues going on.  I'm willing to take the risk of losing him to another team and him somehow being able to find his magic touch on a consistent basis.  I'd be curious to see if he'd even stay in the NHL.  He strikes me as being content to take the cash and return to Sweden where there's less of a spotlight, a shorter season and less physical play.

#2514245 ADQF | Game 3 | Boston 3 @ Detroit 0, BOS leads series 2-1

Posted by Playmaker on 23 April 2014 - 06:43 AM


My point is that if we score at the pace of either of the teams in that series we're probably up 2-1 right now. 

And if Howard doesn't give up 2 weak goals there's a good chance we're probably up 2-1 right now.  You can speculate about absolutely anything.  It doesn't make it fact.  The Wings may have scored more if they weren't in an early hole. 

#2514176 ADQF | Game 3 | Boston 3 @ Detroit 0, BOS leads series 2-1

Posted by Playmaker on 22 April 2014 - 10:19 PM


Oh, well as long as it wasn't impossible, I guess you're right.  Let's not put any of the blame on the defense for allowing the Bruins to make that play.  Let's not put any of the blame on the offense for only being able to score one fluke goal.  If Howard doesn't make every save that isn't literally impossible, it's his fault.  


Oh, right, nothing is Howard's fault.  It's all everyone else's fault.  He can't be blamed for anything.  Let's blame the rookie defensemen or Babcock, because he can't win anything.  Talk about delusional. There's no way of knowing how these games would have turned out differently had Howard not given up 2 bad goals.  In fact, in Game 1 we did see what could happen.   

#2514162 ADQF | Game 3 | Boston 3 @ Detroit 0, BOS leads series 2-1

Posted by Playmaker on 22 April 2014 - 10:09 PM


If a player gives up when down by 1 or 2 goals in the first period, he should not be in the NHL. 


This series, Howard has six goals against, the team has scored two, one of which was a flukey bounce.  Goaltending is the only area that has been half-way decent. 


There's no denying that Howard was pretty awful throughout the season.  However, he's been much more consistent since the Olympic break.  Without him, we're down 3-0.  Arguably, he's plaid well enough for us to be up 2-1.

Who said they gave up?  But anyone who has played any sport at any time knows a thing about momentum.  The easy game 2 and 3 goals not only gives Boston confidence, but it gives them the ability to play their game and forces the Wings to change theirs.

#2514160 ADQF | Game 3 | Boston 3 @ Detroit 0, BOS leads series 2-1

Posted by Playmaker on 22 April 2014 - 10:03 PM


Kudos.  Tampa Bay scored ten goals in four games and they're on a long, lonely, quiet flight out of Montreal right about now. 

With their back up goalie in net.