Retiring a number is only for legendary greatness. While I love Pavel Datsyuk and his magical moves, he just does not put up the numbers, nor has he played long enough to be considered in that category. If he stays another five years...maybe. I think it also has to do with off the ice things. I don't think any of the aforementioned players really became entrenched in the Detroit community. I think that contributes to it as well. I loved Fedorov in his day as well, but his career was also too short in Detroit to be considered. I think it cheapens the whole retiring of a number when too many are up there.
I didn't go overboard when the Wings were playing poorly wanting anyone fired or a complete team overhaul, and I'm not going to now that they had one great week. The entire team, the coaching staff and front office deserves all the credit in the world for stepping it up when it needed to. I hope the team that played so well this past week is the one that shows up in Anaheim.
Mark Howe doesn't seem to have the personality to be a GM. I don't really care what his last name is. I want a GM who can do the job. Former star players don't often succeed as General Managers. Plus, Mark Howe is almost 58 years old. Not really of "grooming" age. I don't really see Ken Holland going anywhere anytime soon.
As soon as my editor posts my new blog entry, you should check it out. It is a pretty heated slamming of Ken Holland for going against his word and stringing Nill along. This is the WORST THING TO HAPPEN TO DETROIT in the past 20 years. The only thing that would be worse is losing Hakin. Holland is spent and he said he was going to retire post Lidstrom. Now he can't because the guy who deserved the job a year ago is leaving to Dallas and I am angry and embarrassed. I have no faith in this organization if they string along Jim and then lose him in favor of Holland who seems too timid and tired. I really hope this is wrong, and if it is right I hope Holland gets fired before Nill signs in Dallas. I felt secured in the future of the team until tonight.
If anyone took what Ken Holland said seriously about retiring when Lidstrom did, you have some serious issues. Best of luck to Jim Nill.
It pisses me off to see Dats, Zetts and Howie go all out for their team and yet we can't depend on a 5 million dollar "Mule" or a rest of a team that is clueless in the defensive zone.
I don't think any of the three have been overly impressive of late. At times like this, your stars have to step it up. They've been average. Jimmy has been good in the games, but we desperately needed him to steal us a win in the shootout. He just seems so easy to beat one on one sometimes.
I'm hoping that this season has opened Holland's eyes a bit. I don't think the Wings can afford to keep prospects in the minors forever and sign old former Red Wing free agents to fill the gap. Because of the cap, you have to give jobs to younger, cheaper players. We no longer have the luxury of paying future hall of famers several million to play on the third line or sit in the press box to fill in for an injury. Not saying play a guy full time at 18, but by 21 or so, these guys need to be given a chance to play and not continue to rot in Grand Rapids.
This pretty much sums up my view. I'm not upset the team isn't dominating anymore and needs a rebuild. I'm just confused as to exactly what the rebuild plan is.
As has been mentioned before, it's not like going into the season Holland was planning let the kids play and develop, even if it made for a mediocre season. Holland signed guys like Cola and Sammy headed into this season to plug holes. Most of the kids got ice time because of injuries, not strategy.
Even at this trade deadline, he talks about the Wings being in a rebuild phase, while also mentioning going after Jagr. So the Wings are clearly trying to rebuild but he pursued an aging playoff rental?
I think they had a plan (Suter and Parise) and were foiled in that plan. I think with the lockout and the uncertainty of the salary cap, they didn't feel comfortable signing any of the other B level free agents like Semin, and being handcuffed with making any moves in the future. So they signed cheap guys they hoped would plug the gap for a year or two until there was a clearer picture of what they had to work with. As much as we all hate it, it HAS worked in the past.
Clearly, that strategy hasn't worked due to the injuries and unproductive seasons by players they counted on like Franzen, Filppula, Kronwall, Quincey and even Datsyuk and Zetterberg. I can't see the point of keeping guys like Tatar in Grand Rapids when you have guys like Cleary who just are not getting the job done.
I would expect that this offseason there would be a clearer direction in place.
If they continue to do the same thing this offseason, then I'd definitely have a problem with it.
I don't recall saying a thing about any other era. I'm just realistic enough to know that no team wins it or has a chance to win it every single year. To expect that there aren't going to be some transition periods or some years that are less successful than others isn't logical. For a team in transition like the Wings, I would consider a WCF to be a successful season, not a complete and utter failure.
Very well said. BOTH teams and their fanbases deserve a game called fairly, consistently, and evenly. I don't want to lose due to weak officiating, but I don't want to win because of it either. If it's a penalty, call it both ways all the time. If it's not, don't.
Any of the four officials on the ice can call a too many men. So do they all hate the Wings? So the Wings have never had too many men on the ice and it wasn't caught by an official?
Been a Wings fan since the late '70's? You? I'm mature enough and unbiased enough to know that an official doesn't work 1000 games in the NHL if he "hates" a team. I'm "literally" the only one of about a dozen people on a Red Wings hockey board that doesn't agree? Somehow, I don't think that would qualify as scientific data.