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#2580623 Franzen on IR

Posted by Playmaker on 10 March 2015 - 07:46 PM

I think Franzen himself is far from the norm.  I wish him no ill will, but if he never came back it wouldn't bother me at all.  He kind of lost me with that "I'm not a goal scorer" bit.  It's like hey, don't expect me to do more, just expect less out of me and you won't be so disappointed.  For me, it's not even that he doesn't score, but his overall malaise when he's out on the ice.  He doesn't play well defensively, he doesn't use his size, he doesn't play physical, he always seems to be 2 steps behind the play. What I really can't stand is when he falls or gets knocked down and it seems to take him forever to get back up.  Okay, Johan, you're not a goal scorer, but what do you do? 


I've been surprised at how little he has been missed.  He's supposed to be a top 6 player and yet his absence is hardly noticeable.  Helm is out a few games and there's an obvious change in the feel of the lineup.  Don't see Franzen returning this season. 

#2579810 3/8 GDT : Red Wings 3 at Bruins 5

Posted by Playmaker on 08 March 2015 - 12:19 PM

Is me or are wings just not on today? A lot of bobbled passes and mishandling the puck.

The Wings haven't really been on for the last 10 games or so.  They haven't been dominating.  They have been patient and taking advantage of situations but it isn't like they've been at the top of their game lately.



Still calling Nyquist's goal a "gift goal." Stay neutral, NBC :glare:


No, you're right.  It was a slick move, deke and a wicked shot that beat him.  Stay neutral, LGW.

#2578885 3/4 GDT : Rangers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Playmaker on 04 March 2015 - 10:51 PM


Is this a shot at me? You think Edzo has been calling this one fairly?

I don't think he called it unfairly.  I mean Ken and Mickey mention an "almost" too many men on the ice nearly every game.  When Olczyk does it, he's making up calls!  He hates the Wings!!!  It's just gotten so out of hand. The league, Bettman, ESPN, the officials, don't hate the Wings.  Really. 

#2578858 3/4 GDT : Rangers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Playmaker on 04 March 2015 - 10:44 PM

When Franzen comes back, this team will be scary.  

But not in a good way.

#2578806 3/4 GDT : Rangers 1 at Red Wings 2 (OT)

Posted by Playmaker on 04 March 2015 - 10:36 PM

It's actually embarrassing that they have a Chicago Blackhawks fan in the booth for national games. Embarrassing, Edzo is the worst kind of homer.

The inferiority complex of some Wings fans is even more embarrassing.

#2573426 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by Playmaker on 21 February 2015 - 11:07 PM

Darn, and I was looking forward to the shootout with Gus in the net.

#2573333 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by Playmaker on 21 February 2015 - 10:45 PM

*Transmission blown on Bandwagon*

#2573202 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by Playmaker on 21 February 2015 - 10:11 PM

Okay, well NOW it's for sure over 

#2573172 2/21 GDT : Red Wings 7 at Dallas Stars 6 (OT)

Posted by Playmaker on 21 February 2015 - 10:05 PM

*Backs up the bandwagon*...all aboard

#2570902 Franson to Preds

Posted by Playmaker on 15 February 2015 - 11:54 AM

I really don't want to see a blockbuster trade involving the Wings.  While they may not be an elite team, Holland has proven that he can build this team through the draft.  No one really out there that's available that would really be worth selling the farm for.

#2570877 Next Number to be retired

Posted by Playmaker on 15 February 2015 - 10:07 AM

I think it's a different perspective depending on the generation you're from.  A lot of the younger Wings fans now have little recollection of  Yzerman, Fedorov, etc.  They don't know the frustration of having no hope of seeing the playoffs, of losing year after year or wondering what it might be like to win the Stanley Cup or imagining what it would be like to have talented players on your team.  I also think time can alter perspectives.  Some players who weren't that good seem like gods and others who were really good, we forget just how great they were.  Off ice things contribute to how a player is perceived as well. 


So what I'm getting at is, those under say 30 think winning Stanley Cups is just the norm and the Wings should be in it every single year.  Those same fans are probably used to numbers being retired on a regular basis and it will seem like a ho hum event as opposed to a once in a lifetime type of thing. So younger fans might tend to think 13 and 40 should go into the rafters because they are the best that they have seen. 


I tend to always underestimate D and Z because they never seem to put up the big numbers.  But yet when you look at the all time great Red Wings, they both seem to be in the mix point wise. 

#2570519 Good to see they're getting along

Posted by Playmaker on 14 February 2015 - 01:48 PM

It doesn't matter to me either way if Fedorov has his number retired.  If he does, good for him, if not, it doesn't bother me.  There isn't a timetable on it either.  I think Lindsay and Delvecchio didn't have their numbers retired until the 1990's. 


I guess if I had a criteria, it would be, if you have to ask and you have to debate it, then it's no.  With Yzerman and Lidstrom, it wasn't if, it was when.  I know other teams have things like a ring of honor or something similar. That might be something for the new arena,  a way to honor the very talented, but not quite legendary Red Wings.

#2570457 Good to see they're getting along

Posted by Playmaker on 13 February 2015 - 10:17 PM

The only criteria for getting your jersey retired is because the owner says it should be retired.  I don't know where fans get the idea that there's some sort of standard or litmus test that has to be passed.  If Mike (or Chris or Marian or whoever is making the decisions these days) says someone's number will be retired, it will be retired.  The Wings and their fans are fortunate to have so many players in recent years to have this discussion about. 

#2569908 So, Evander Kane...

Posted by Playmaker on 11 February 2015 - 04:41 PM

Don't get me wrong, I'm a Holland fan and I like our team.  That said, why does it seem other teams can pull off these steals and the Wings can't?  Maybe I'm just being a typical fan and overvaluing the Wings players and undervaluing other teams.  I was thinking they'd have to basically give him away and they get some semi decent players and a first round pick? 


Not understanding the thought process of acquiring an often injured attitude problem guy with a big contract who is out for 6 months.  Seems like he'd fit better with a veteran team who'd put him in his place  as opposed to a dreadful team with hodge podge of younger players. But what do I know?

#2569517 Article on Z's lack on shootouts

Posted by Playmaker on 09 February 2015 - 07:13 PM

He just can't get it up under pressure.  It happens.