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#2354707 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 13 February 2013 - 02:24 PM

What is there to know? Holland signed an aging veteran for multiple years when the team already had a glut at forward. What is Samuelsson's role when he comes back? He's not fit for the bottom six and he's a plug at best with Datsyuk and Filppula, just like Bertuzzi and Cleary are playing there. I liked or was neutral on the guys Holland brought in over the summer, but the Samuelsson move is puzzling and IMO pointless still.

What's there to know? Exactly. We wouldn't know everything, we don't see everything Holland sees and we sure as hell don't take everything into account when we overreact to something our entitled asses don't agree with. All we see is HAHA LOGO KILLER and we love that, so we lean towards it. We don't bother to think about the fact that we just lost Jiri Hudler and Brunner wasn't a sure thing at all. Not to mention Sammy doesn't take bad penalties, he's pretty disciplined. He also can put up 40-50 points, work the PP, and has experience. He's proven himself, on a team where we were about to bring up a lot of kids who haven't yet. Better to sign Sammy and let them work their way up gradually. What if they didn't work out? There's also the intangibles that we pretend to care about in other scenarios but really don't when it denies us our new toy-how he works with the team, how good it makes the team look that we'll take a guy back, etc.


If we traded for him, that'd be one thing. But we signed him. All it did was deny one AHL kid a spot for the majority of one season, maybe two. What it got us was a proven smart, good player with experience who can score well and plays better in the playoffs. And it's 3 mil, it's not a lot. Look at some other players making that much (I don't mean young underpaid guys due a raise). Joel Ward. Nah no thanks. Chris Kelly, Tomas Kopecky, and a few others. Then you have some decent guys like Dustin Brown, Radim Vrbata, Weiss, Jokinen, etc. You can debate who is better but none of them are leaps above Sammy. We just can't admit that part of the hate came from his undeserved status as whipping boy. And we don't like ex players coming back who we didn't like before, that's boring. You combine those two things and Sammy didn't stand a chance. But it's not a bad deal.

#2354491 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 12 February 2013 - 07:12 PM



could be not giving up osgood for roy after the 11-1 game.  probably directly cost them multiple cups.


recenlty, keeping franzen over hossa looks really, really bad.

I still think there was much more to the Colorado/Montreal trade than anyone involved let on. I don't think we would've gotten him, he'd made up his mind that he was going to Colorado before we shelled him.


The rumor anyway was Ozzie and Fedorov. Sorry, no thanks.

#2354474 Biggest mistake Red Wings have done

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 12 February 2013 - 06:28 PM

Our desire for new toys doesn't negate the fact that the loyalty we show is very appealing to players. We don't treat our players like video game characters or trading cards and that makes us look very good. We take care of our guys.

#2354455 IF Everyone gets healthy...

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 12 February 2013 - 04:44 PM

 The more I look at it, the more I laugh.  Nice one, Zomdog.


I just hope it doesn't mean we're relegated to mediocracy.


My only question is does Babdog think Newfdog is here to stay, or is the clock ticking for him to be replaced by Tatdog?  I know everyone here at Letsgodogs is getting tired of Newfdog....






#2354453 Emmerton

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 12 February 2013 - 04:39 PM

Emmerton's here because his defense is very good, he doesn't make stupid mistakes and he doesn't take dumb penalties. He'll never be some offensive superstar but it's more our fault for wanting that out of a 4th line grunt. He doesn't really have an identity and he doesn't make huge offensive players or hits. And if we can't label or
identify a guy, we turn on him. We need players to be easily identifiable. Every player has their rep, Emmerton's more of a blank slate and without an obvious reason to look at him, we turn into ****** bags and hate him.


He's quietly got a really good set of hands and can get a shot off quickly, too. He's also a good PKer. I'm fine with him as a 4th liner. He also was rarely a minus player last season and hasn't been a minus in any game thus far. Sometimes it's just good to have a reliable vanilla player who doesn't screw up.


People are down on him because he's just a seat filler.    


Can't believe the farm team is so dense as to not have anyone else they could plug in at center.  Andersson has been mentioned, so I'd like to see what he can do.    


Yup, they're always dense and you've always got the right answer that an entire hockey organization doesn't have.

#2354340 Joey MacDonald claimed by Calgary off waivers

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 11 February 2013 - 11:57 PM

MacDonald is really underrated. I'm not surprised the CGY scouts saw something in him. He's always been starter material. He'll never be great but he's yet another guy who gets wrongly doomed to backup duty because you just can't shake that rep unless you get the chance, but you won't get the chance if you've got the rep. 

#2354197 Ericsson

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 11 February 2013 - 10:27 AM

Its called dumb luck. There was no reason to expect Big E's resurgence. Unless holland legit has a crystal ball then there is no way he could have predicted this.

He sees him every day or close to it. He sees his practices, his improvement and he's seen his development since day one. He sure as hell saw his great play last season. Maybe it's possible that Holland knows something we don't.


Forum logic: The GM must be stupid, it can't be us overreacting.

#2352064 Howard = Average

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 06 February 2013 - 02:40 PM

Howard kept is in a lot of games until now. Where were you then?


We lose, Howard sucks, every forward sucks, every defender sucks, the world is ending, get the razorblades and candles it's time to check out!


We win, we're awesome, life is good and we're acting as peppy as a guy in an ad for boner pills.


I wonder why I even come here after a loss.

#2351440 Petr Mrazek's mask - Think "Petr Griffin"...

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 05 February 2013 - 05:32 PM

Manatees. That's all I think of when I hear about Family Guy.

#2351059 2012 NFL Thread

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 04 February 2013 - 01:34 PM

I don't care about either team but the Ravens just had the biggest cake walk to a title ever. Only legit win was against NE. But hey, the NFL got what it wanted. Sadly this is what sports have become.

#2350328 2/1 GDT : Blues 3 at Red Wings 5 (Z with Hat Trick)

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 02 February 2013 - 04:34 AM

This is what happens when they actually call STL on their goon BS, and we decide to fight back and play their style of game. Suddenly they're not putting up 6. We're better, we just have to decide to play through their physicality and forecheck instead of looking forward to the next game like so many teams who don't feel like applying the Blues' own style against them. 

Yes Toots had a couple of chances but still. No points for our bottom six. I don't like this. As much as I love Z and Dat's they can't carry the team on their back. Especially if an injury occurs to Howard as mentioned in another thread. We need bottom six scoring.

Look at it this way-while our bottom 6 isn't scoring, our top 6 is. The bottom six won't be ice cold forever, they'll pick up. Our stars are carrying us when we need them to. That's what a team is all about. We could easily be in a scoring drought all around.

#2349682 Gretzky <3's Zetterberg

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 01 February 2013 - 05:57 PM

Neither one of em are better defensively than Sid. I'd say in 10 years, Sid can easily be a multiple time Selke winner when he's not as good offensively anymore.

None of them play defense so it doesn't really matter. It's like comparing 3 Range Rovers and then talking about gas mileage. It's just not something any of them are good at and it's not the focal point. Granted Sid is the only one who will try but trying doesn't equal playing defense. He'll skate into his own zone but doesn't quite know how to read a play or play D like true Selke winners.

#2349680 Gustavsson's Lingering Groin

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 01 February 2013 - 05:51 PM

How come so many NHL teams have goalies in the minors no one has heard of, who can instantly come into the lineup and hold their own?  We see that every year from several teams.    


Yet, this team has McCollum to fall back on from the AHL.  Figures.  


The Wings need to do a better job developing goalies in their farm system.  Then we don't have to scramble for s***ty or injured backups every year.  



#2349395 Paul Kelly: Expansion coming

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 31 January 2013 - 02:37 PM

But they need to realign conferences now.  Expansion would take at least several years before those markets can even exist.  

You couldn't see the league prolonging expansion year by year for a few short years until they can get a couple of teams shoehorned into an already too large league? I don't agree but it's the type of thing I could see the NHL trying.


Myself I think we could stand to lose two teams rather than gaining two more.

#2349289 Zetterberg's Great But...

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 30 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

And tootoo so far.. That guy gives 110% whenever he steps on the ice.

Bingo. And look at when Helm is in the lineup-we seem to collectively work and skate a bit harder. And when he's actually on the ice, man oh man, the whole game goes into fast forward. He's such a game changer.


Eaves was always a hard skater too. Now maybe we've had slow starts but over the course of the season esp after the STL game where we were in preseason mode, we look like a much harder working team than the past two seasons. We've added Tootoo, got Eaves back, Helm's back and Brunner's a hard worker too. It's no coincidence that the whole team is skating harder. Even Franzen, while still prone to standing around watching, is working a tad harder.


Sometimes all it takes it an extra couple guys to give the whole team that extra push in the right direction.