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#2349273 Zetterberg's Great But...

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 30 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

I know.

I think you have to include Datsyuk in there as they are the 3 hardest workers on the team

Flip, too. Datsyuk is hard to label. He doesn't visually exert himself too much but that's his style, he doesn't have to. He's more methodical and it works. Datsyuk at full speed is more of a once in awhile when it's truly necessary sort of thing. That said he never gives up on a play, or a game and is always trying in his own way to make something happen. He doesn't take games off though. Neither do Hank or Helm or Flip. They're great examples. I hate that Franzen is so lazy but at least he's not a top 3 player on the team. Some teams have top 3 guys, leaders and even captains who refuse to work hard. That's gotta suck.

#2349268 Zetterberg's Great But...

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 30 January 2013 - 04:40 PM

There's a guy (GoWings) on the Red Wings Central Forum that called him Zoidberg and posted crap about Z questioning his effort all season long.

I've seen that guy a few times, he's an oaf. Then again a lot of people are over there. I lurked but didn't even waste my time registering nevermind replying. If you're new or don't go along with the opinion of the 5 or 6 dumbasses who stick together and have been there forever, you're shunned. It's kinda sad but they have no one to mod their board so it's turned into to garbage.

#2349213 Kindl's future...

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 30 January 2013 - 02:09 PM

E is inept? C'mon that doesn't feel just a little like stubborn old memories refusing to go away? He's been great the last half of last season and he's continued right where he left off this season. His passing is crisp, his play in his own end has been very good. One aspect I can but somehow also can't believe we're overlooking is his ability to get out of the corners quickly, or move pucks behind the net in those areas under pressure. I've seen him just flick pucks to open guys very quickly under a ton of pressure. I haven't seen anyone do that since Nick and Raf, not even Nik. That is a huge aspect of defense, just shrugging off the forecheck like that. He does it so well and it's one of the biggest reasons why we don't notice him in his own end. And that's a good thing.


As for Kindl's future, I just don't think he meshes well here. He's average with brief flashes of something more but it's fleeting. Those flashes give his fans something to cling to and I think we've been very patient but I can't foresee him sticking around. I know Huskins isn't the best offensively but he can move the puck adequately enough to replace Kindl I think considering his defensive play more than makes up. I'm not exactly tapping my fingers impatiently waiting for points with bottom 6 defenders, I'd rather they just grind out and shut down opponents and don't make mistakes. Kindl is a decent top 4 defenseman on another team who doesn't fit into the 3rd pairing role here. It's sad but that's the reality of it. I keep getting this gut feeling his mistakes are all mental because he's trying to play into the top 4 and screws up because of it but regardless we can't wait around forever. This team is always more patient than the forums are but I think he'll be gone eventually in some sort of deal.

#2347832 1/27 Red Wings 1 @ Chicago Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 27 January 2013 - 09:24 PM

This league is so predictable and sad. Two weak calls to get the penalty count closer to even.

Bingo. What a joke. It is one of the biggest deciding factors in a game. You can't just say play and ignore it. It's as much a factor as poor passing, bad PK, anything.

#2347804 1/27 Red Wings 1 @ Chicago Blackhawks 2 (OT)

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 27 January 2013 - 09:18 PM

Phantom call. 


The NHL will never stop having it's refs try to even their penalty numbers.

#2347074 1/25 GDT : Wild 3 at Red Wings 5

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 25 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

I was just being sarcastic, but anyways...

It's a Crosby comment, on a hockey forum. I just don't even know anymore. He's been hated so long it's almost like you can feel the hipster contrarians defend him just to be different.

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#2347052 Red Wings sign D Kent Huskins to 1-year, $750k contract

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 25 January 2013 - 10:48 PM

I think part of it is that he knows his role. He's been around the block and doesn't expect to be any higher on the depth chart. Or if he does he knows it's not likely and is alright with it. Thus allowing him to just play how he needs to play. Whereas a guy like Kindl looks sometimes like he's trying too hard to play himself into the second pairing. I think we saw Ericsson doing the same thing a few years ago. When you feel like you have something to lose, or something to gain, and you let it get in your head you will screw up big time. It's when you let go and play loose that everything flows smoothly. When you hear the ol' saying that sports is mostly mental, that's accurate as hell. It is. 


Look at E when he came up from GR in that playoff run-he had nothing to lose, he knew he was going back down soon. He just played loose and it showed. Look at Lashoff-he has to know his time here may be limited. It's more realistic that he gets sent to GR soon and I think he's playing loose. I love that he's been so steady and his quick feet have impressed the hell out of me, but I want to see what happens when he's up full time and has something to lose. 


Time will tell, as always.

#2346183 Wings Looking For Defenseman

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 25 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

Seriously, why not look at dealing Dats for a young, franchise d-man? His contract is up at the end of next season and I honestly think he'll go back to Russia at that point. It was clearly tough for him to leave when the lockout ended. Almost every team would be willing to deal for a season and a half of Datsyuk.

Because part of what makes our team appealing to players is that we don't do stuff like that.

#2346177 Franzen should have been at Tae Bo class during the lockout

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 25 January 2013 - 02:26 PM

Hossa was a known, a sure thing. Franzen was a question mark. I'd go with the known.

In hindsight yes but at the time Franzen was giving everyone pretty compelling reasons to choose he over Hossa for a couple mil less or so. Managing a team sometimes is about anticipation and foresight. Holland boofed this one. Which isn't that bad, he's gotten so many right and he had damn good reason to believe he'd be right here too. Y'know it wasn't so much Holland as it is Franzen making his decision look bad. If I had to pick Hossa vs Franzen actually trying, I'd take Franzen. But Hossa vs the Franzen we've seen for the past two years, Hossa in a goddamn landslide.

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#2345581 Trade for Bogosian

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 23 January 2013 - 06:24 PM

Holland is lost. He just blew 750k on freaking Huskins instead of playing with 5 or moving a forward back. Panic moves from a GM 3 games into the season. Gee, I wonder why we cant get Parise for 9 mil a year. Oh yah. Cuz Kenny thinks its better to stockpile a bunch of mediocre guys for 15 mil per year.

You're railing against a guy making damn near vet minimum, for one year, who played pretty well.

#2345517 Franzen should have been at Tae Bo class during the lockout

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 23 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

I'm fine with Mule not fighting but he certainly needs to finish his checks which he frequently does not.  And people like fighting in hockey because it's exciting.



He's also taking on a role where he's going to be abused. He'd better learn to take it and get up. That's one thing I think we took for granted with Homer. We knew he took abuse but we took for granted the fact he'd get up as fast as he could, he could keep him balance pretty damn well and wouldn't sulk or float in his job.

#2345492 Franzen should have been at Tae Bo class during the lockout

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 23 January 2013 - 02:39 PM

So let me get this straight we have a 30 goal guy on a very reasonable 3.95 mill per year cap hit and we should just buy him out? put him on waivers? send him to work at Ikea?  Does the Mule need to work harder shift in and shift out ? Yea of course he does but he isn't going anywhere. 


Zajac - 423 games played - 91 goals 5.75 mill per ( but he's got potential lol)


Mule -  472 games played - 150 goals 3.95 per ( his ceiling is 30..maybe 35 but we know what we have )


His contract is too good to trade unless it makes alot of sense.

This is literally the only argument I ever see in favor of Mule. I am just going to call it beaten spouse syndrome. We're acting like his on paper stats outweight his on-ice negatives when they really, really do not. Laying on the ice, turning it over, floating, that cancels out some math-whiz goal vs salary BS. Sorry but it does.

#2344725 1/22 GDT : Stars 2 at Red Wings 1

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 22 January 2013 - 05:06 PM

Gonna post something in here before we go down a goal and everyone gets on a ledge and acts like we're the Columbus Maple Panthers.

#2344480 Jordin Tootoo: Usage? (6:57 TOI vs. Columbus)

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 22 January 2013 - 12:46 PM

tootoo was a madman last night. and if****** loved it.

This. We want a fighter and when we get one we complain that he's somehow not a fighter? We want a pest who can also play and not be a slug in lead skates? And when we get him we desperately scramble to discredit him by using his TOI after 2 games?


Don't we look for things to bother ourselves with?

#2344475 Red Wings sign D Kent Huskins to 1-year, $750k contract

Posted by shoobiedoobin on 22 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

It's amazing how cynical some people are even admitting that they know nothing about him. I drafted lots of Ducks and Sharks in fantasy hockey over the years and got to watch a good chunk of his games and he's not fast, he's not super offensively skilled but he's very solid in his own end and won't make a ton of mistakes. And for a bottom pairing guy that's what we should be looking for right now. We've got enough offensive defensemen and you don't need more of them on the third pairing. Third pairing should just be able to go out for 15 minutes a night, stay at home and not make any mistakes. He's not lazy, either. He's pretty intense and works very hard.


But he's big and that means he has to hit for us or we hate him.