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In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

27 September 2016 - 04:23 PM

Although I've long been an advocate for trading for Jacob Trouba the past year or so, the harsh reality remains: Ken Holland is our GM, and Ken Holland doesn't overpay for impact players. No, I don't consider David Legwand or Erik Cole (at the time we acquired them as pending UFA's) impact type players - and although the price was steep, the return for those two players won't be in the same ballpark as what Trouba will command.


Just to ruin everyone's Tuesday - which is for some reason the worst day of the week anyway...Take a look at the most recent trades involving an impact Right Handed Defencemen - and what the return was:


June 29th - PK SUBBAN - Cost NSH Shea Weber.

June 29th - SHEA WEBER - Cost MTL PK Subban.

June 29th - ADAM LARSSON - Cost EDM Taylor Hall.

May 2th - ERIK GUDBRANSON - Cost VAN Jared Mccann, The 38th overall pick, and the 94th overall pick in 2016.

Jan 6h - SETH JONES - Cost CBJ Ryan Johansen.

June 26th (2015) - DOUGIE HAMILTON - Cost CGY The 15th overall. 45th overall, and 52nd overall picks in 2015.




The problem is:  None of these were an RFA that refused to sign a contract and therefore these and Trouba are not comparable like this. As Trouba is one he should come slightly cheaper. If we get him is a completely different matter of course.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

25 September 2016 - 08:28 AM

It's far from being a slam dunk. As Trouba is an RFA Cheveldayoff is the one in the driving seat and has all the time in world. Trouba training in Detroit doesn't necessarily mean anything. As he was born in Michigan it could also just mean that he is skating in the best facility near to his home. The race is wide open in my opinion and even if Kenny makes a reasonable offer including Nyquist/Tater, Mantha, Smith he might still get the short end of the stick. We all know the crazy prices for elite defenseman and the also crazy GMs willing to pay them.

We also have to keep in mind Troubas cap hit. The 58 mil over 8 years he demands are ridiculous and paying that would be a bad move by Kenny. Trouba is still young and may not pan out the way projected.


One thing is for sure though: This might be the best chance we've ever had to add a (maybe) future No. 1 defenseman to our core. And Kenny should be paying any price necessary to make that trade happen, excluding only Mrazek and Larkin. He just has to make sure beforehand that Trouba signs here for a reasonable salary and term.

In Topic: Frans Nielson signs 6 year $5.25m AAV contract with Detroit

03 July 2016 - 07:12 AM

As others already stated: Nielsen is a good signing, the term however is far from ideal.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

03 July 2016 - 07:10 AM

^ You can definitely put Sheahan on the 4th line. $2 million dollar 4th liner is not that expensive with the upcoming cap raise. 


Don't split up Z and Larkin imo.


Tatar - Neilsen - Vanek

Zetterberg - Larkin - Abdelkader

AA - Helm - Nyquist

Sheahan - Glendogmillionaire - Miller/Ott


Each line would have a defensively responsible player, a scorer and a "powerforward"


The third line would be one of the fastest in the NHL. Tatar likes to shoot and Vanek is the type of player that scores on rebounds. Larkin and Zetterberg have good chemistry. Helm is defensively responsible to make up for AA and Nyquist is the primary scorer on the line. 4th line would easily be better because of Sheahan's decent scoring ability, something Glendog and Miller lack. 


Way to early to begin line juggling given that there is probably a trade in making.


That said I like the look of those lines. Our first line is probably the worst of the whole league, but second and third look great. We don't have the superstar player anymore, but we have at least depth going for us. Not the worst.

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

24 June 2016 - 08:52 PM

Cholowski from Chilliwack. Im ok with it but Id rather they had gone center after the better dmen were gone.


I don't mind that at all. D-man are much harder to predict than forwards. Maybe Kenny found us another gem.