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#2532861 Alfie wants to play

Posted by krsmith17 on 23 July 2014 - 08:47 AM

The Detroit Red Wings have long had the philosophy that prospects need to be "ripe" before they make the jump to the National Hockey League. That means after getting drafted, our prospects spend around 3-5 years between junior or overseas and the AHL before finally getting their shot in the NHL. This has proven to be successful for many years now and I don't see them drastically changing that system any time soon.

 

I don't see there being much of a chance that Mantha makes the big club this season, despite how highly fans, media and management regard him, nor do I think Jurco will start the season in the NHL. I'm actually a fan of the Red Wing way, of over ripening players, and I like the idea of having a farm oozing with talent. Depth is probably the biggest key to a teams success in the league today, and because of our drafting, development and ripening methods, we are definitely stacked with depth in the minors.

 

There is a reason players like Nyquist and Tatar were able to jump into the NHL with little to no growing pains, while highly regarded players drafted by other teams get thrown in the fire too early and flame out due to not being ready, and having their confidence destroyed. I'm just as excited for all these kids as anyone but I think it would be a huge mistake to throw them in the best league in the world before they're fully ready, both physically and mentally. In my opinion, on the back end, Marchenko could be ready for full time duty in the NHL, other than that I think Backman, Ouellet, Sproul and Jensen can all use more seasoning in the AHL. Up front, Jurco is the closest to being ready, but could still use another season down in the minors, along with Pulkkinen, Mantha, Athanasiou, etc.

 

Anyway, point being, I don't think there is any harm in resigning a future hall-of-famer, veteran like Alfredsson, allowing all of our forward prospects another season in Grand Rapids to round out there game. Having these guys getting top line minutes and loads of PP time down in Grand Rapids, to me is a lot more beneficial than getting 3rd line minutes and no PP time up in Detroit.

 

 

As for our RFA's that are not waiver exempt, I don't think there is any chance whatsoever that any team picks up Nestrasil, with a slim chance a team takes a chance on Ferraro, although that may be even less likely now with uncle Tony now as the assistant coach. My only fear is that we lose Callahan. The kid is coming off a career year with the Griffins, is an absolute warrior and would be a great addition to any teams 4th line. I hope Holland doesn't give any team the chance to claim him. No he's not going to put up a lot of points but I think he would be a huge loss...




#2532752 'District Detroit': Red Wings' New Arena Details Released

Posted by Euro_Twins on 21 July 2014 - 10:09 PM

Noooo that's the parking garage name.


Good call, along with the I don't know why people aren't coming here for $15 beers stand, and the we won't overpay for hotdogs kiosk, and the hot and ready will be our intermission acquisition stand


#2532075 Holland Wiki page edited

Posted by Nightfall on 14 July 2014 - 07:10 PM

No one here is saying they could do a better job as GM. All people are saying is that there are other potential GMs out there that could have better addressed the team's needs. Looking at other organizations like Dallas and Tampa, there is an argument to be made.

 

Dallas, a team that was the last place team in the Western Conference to secure a playoff spot and hasn't been relevant since they lost to the Wings back in 2008.

 

Tampa Bay, a team that actually did pretty well last year and then got swept by Montreal.  The past two seasons before that they didn't even make the playoffs.  This is with Yzerman at the helm who was considered to be better than Holland.

 

Sure, these teams seemed to address their teams needs, but we will see how the product on the ice looks and how they do in playoffs.


I don't know. I just don't find it funny much. 

 

Same here man.  I guess I am not a butthurt fan.  Sure, I wanted to see a high priced free agent come into play.  At the same time though, I am ok with the moves that Holland has made so far.  Giving the kids a chance is what he needed to do and he is going to do it.  Cleary is just an insurance policy.  He won't be beating out someone for a roster spot if they are better. 


 

It kills me when posters cite Holland not signing all these UFAs to big deals as a good thing, and that's why we want him, when in fact, he is out there pitching the same huge deals to the UFAs as everyone else, he just keeps getting rejected. How do they conveniently ignore that? And it's not just this year! The stupidity of some of the statements in light of the facts is mind-blowing to me. Holland offers a guy the same deal or a bigger deal, guy signs with other team, and somehow we're lucky to have a GM that doesn't sign UFAs to huge deals? Seriously? I just don't even know where to start when people are so loyal that they can't begin to be even remotely objective about the realities of the situation.

 

Being objective would be looking at the entire situation.  Suter and Parise wanted to play in Minnesota.  They have ties to the area.  Same with Vanek.  Boyle has family in New York and requested to play there for less since the Rangers were against the cap.  Players will do what it takes to go somewhere they want to go.  When Dekeyser chose to come to Detroit, and the contracts were the same no matter where he went, did you give credit to Holland for this?




#2532195 Red Wings & the Media

Posted by frankgrimes on 15 July 2014 - 07:24 PM

I consider myself a big fan of the Red Wings but knowledgable - like this blogger is pushing it - would put it way too far. Anyway, after reading news how the Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Philadelphia and Boston are handling their players I can understand why organisations don't want to give too much out.

 

The only point I somewhat agree is that the team and especially management aren't taking critics very well, as proven by an Email from a poster here a few days ago.

 

But the media has to understand one thing: The job of a hockey organisation is to ice the best possible roster, players are paid to perform on the ice not to be media-monkeys.  Putting myself into Kessel's shoes I would have declined every interview with a Torontosun reporter till they are accepting that I'm shy and don#t want to talk to them, till then no comments no interviews.

 

Sometimes the media thinks they are way more important when in reality they aren't even important.

 

btw. for the 24/7 stuff the media considered it "boring" boohoo down to earth hockey players acting like always, so no forced stories or Bryzgalovs quotes for you ? Cry me a river, I thought the insight about Babcocks decisions and how he reacts to pressure have been outstanding.




#2531959 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Shaman on 13 July 2014 - 07:03 PM

ok folks, let's please get back on topic about this great off season acquisition by Holland.  

 

This makes me need to resurrect an oldie but goodie.

 

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#2531631 Soccer!

Posted by dropkickshanahans on 11 July 2014 - 03:57 PM

http://www.independe...up-9594287.html

 

Such a glorious win. I rooted for the Germans last world cup (after USA was knocked out early too of course) and I'm really hoping they win it this time.




#2531563 Please Help Me Win GDT of the year.

Posted by 55fan on 11 July 2014 - 01:24 PM

Congratulations!  Did you get to skate around the internet with a cup or did you just run around your kitchen or something?

Whatever you did to celebrate, I hope you enjoyed every moment!*

*Note from our legal department:  It is assumed that since Flashy is an upstanding guy that no living or dead animals, people, or houseplants were harmed in the execution of the celebratory moves, nor was any property vandalized or damaged, intentionally or unintentionally, other than his liver. 




#2531822 Tom Renney could be leaving, too.

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 12 July 2014 - 12:03 PM

Calling Professor Larionov, Professor Larionov, please report to human resources...

 

I'm not sure he'd be the best PP coach. 

 

"Just make a perfect pass to the spot where you know Kozlov will be.  He'll make a couple nice moves in the corner and throw a no look pass to where Konstantinov will be, who is cutting back door from the point.  If Vladdy doesn't have a high percentage scoring chance then Fedorov will have already moved into position by the far post for an outlet.  Simple."




#2531696 Confused on the direction of this team going forward

Posted by FlashyG on 11 July 2014 - 09:21 PM

Don't worry Kenny's got a firm grip on the wheel.

 

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#2531755 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 12 July 2014 - 06:34 AM

Well at least we have two whipping boys




#2531448 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by FlashyG on 11 July 2014 - 01:26 AM

So how are things? good right...I didn't miss any news?

 

Perhaps some gifs will cheer everyone up.

 

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#2531411 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by marcaractac on 10 July 2014 - 10:27 PM

http://www.mlive.com...ary_determ.html

 

Good to know his knee seems to be doing much better now. I do hope he proves us wrong, and I'm glad he understands he has to earn a spot in the lineup. Like I said before, he does not hurt the team if he can't keep up and ends up in the press box. Watching all the games doesn't take a roster spot from anybody in GR. 

 

The signing is frustrating. That's something I agree with. I do think it is crappy for certain fans (mainly twitter) to be bashing Cleary over it. The guy wants to play. Sure I don't think it should be here, but I can't fault the guy for still having the determination to contribute. This is one situation where I am dying to eat some crow.

 

Prove us all wrong, Dano.




#2531343 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by larionov_8 on 10 July 2014 - 07:53 PM

Is anyone really surprised? We all knew this was coming, Cleary was a waste of a roster spot for just the past 2 seasons.

The Red Wings loyalty rewards program clearly states you must be a waste of a roster spot for a minimum of 3 seasons before the Wings will consider not resigning you.

 

Exactly, the writing was on the wall for this signing since last summer. 

 

As Holland said about Cleary at training camp "at some point and time as the season wears on or next summer, we'll try to find a way to keep him in a Red Wing uniform for longer than a year." http://www.youtube.c...h?v=mG6LST7PPLc

I'm a bit surprised they needed to bother with a bonus - 1 year at 1 million should've been plenty. I agree with Holland that Cleary could be a solid depth player if he's healthy, but agree with pretty much every fan that this will be regrettable if it results in a better player sitting on the bench or in the minors (e.g. Jurco, Ferraro, Callahan). I recall reading that Callahan would be happy to re-sign with GR to continue to work on his game, so if Alfie does not re-sign, perhaps it will only be Ferraro left in the lurch. The good news is that Cleary's deal is only 1 year, so that gives more flexibility moving forward.  




#2531279 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by WingsAlways on 10 July 2014 - 06:10 PM

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I wouldn't mind it if he would stay healthy until the playoffs. 




#2531272 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by haroldsnepsts on 10 July 2014 - 06:01 PM

To be fair, going back the last 4 playoffs, Cleary has more points than Franzen. 

 

 

(I keep repeating that stat because I still can't believe it's true). 

 

 

I was and still am a big Cleary fan.  I can't fault the guy for still wanting to play hockey with the Wings.  But they should not have re-signed him.