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#2681624 Thomas Vanek signs 1 year, $2.6m deal with Detroit

Posted by kickazz on 01 July 2016 - 03:07 PM

Holland hasn't done the best job. Miller contract was useless and Helm is overpaid for what he can do (I don't care if he would have gotten more money as a free agent). But I also can't agree with people blaming Holland for not landing some of the players like Lucic, Okposo or Eriksson. It's upto the players whether they want to be here or not. Detroit is not UFA destination it used to be and we have to realize that.

 

Some people revert into their former high school logic and start blaming Holland for literally every single thing. No one can take you seriously if you can't differentiate between an instance when Holland really IS at fault and when he ISN'T. 

 

So far I'm frowning at Holland for the Helm/Miller deals but giving a slow golf clap for the Vanek deal and a nod for Nielsen with a questioning look about the length of term. We can only truly know if these things pan out once the season is underway. 




#2681398 Frans Nielson signs 6 year $5.25m AAV contract with Detroit

Posted by kickazz on 01 July 2016 - 12:49 PM

Look it's a bad contract simply because of the length of term and his age. No need to justify with "well it can be traded" because no one is going to want a 35 year old with a $5.25 million cap hit.

 

Nielsen is a good player and a good leader. I'd consider him a bit underrated in the league especially because I can tell most people have no idea who this guy is and jumping to conclusions. 

 

I'm not happy with the contract but looking at the positives, he's fills a hole that Datsyuk created. He is officially our top 6 penalty killer that I've been pressing for and bitching about for the last few months. He will reduce Zetterberg's ice time. And will likely push Miller out of the picture. 




#2681393 Frans Nielson signs 6 year $5.25m AAV contract with Detroit

Posted by romagoth on 01 July 2016 - 12:45 PM

Islanders fans are the biggest morons in the country so none of that says much. 

what an ignorant statement




#2680335 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by amato on 29 June 2016 - 05:16 PM

Wings never got a chance? So basically it was see how close the hometown team is to competing, then decide I guess?

On the lighter side of things, this got me good :D haha

https://twitter.com/...245726128373762


#2680248 Stamkos to... Tampa

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 29 June 2016 - 04:04 PM

holland needs a new job. hes been a joke since he couldnt close the suter parise deal.

 

what has he done since our last cup?

 

stephan weiss...bust

mike modano..bust

daniel alfredsson...bust

david legwand..bust

erik cole...bust

zidlicky...bust

bard richards...bust

keeping cleary...bust

covo...bust

sammy 2nd time...bust

 

yes lets go get a washed up eric staal now pay him 6 mil

 

I understand your frustration but you're exaggerating here.

 

Alfredsson was not a bust at all. He was old, yeah, but the Wings knew that. He played well.

 

The Legwand deal was made to keep the Streak alive whether fans like it or not. The Streak continues so the trade can't be considered a bust.

 

Erik Cole was playing pretty well before getting injured. He was picked up to help in the playoffs and it was a calculated risk and one that should be made any year.




#2680240 Stamkos to... Tampa

Posted by kickazz on 29 June 2016 - 03:57 PM

wings lost a lot of fans past 2 seasons.

 

losing datsyuk and not getting a big name to replace him hurts a lot

Say goodbye to the bandwagoners then. 




#2680173 Stamkos to... Tampa

Posted by marcaractac on 29 June 2016 - 03:23 PM

 

They got SHEA WEBER I'd move heaven and earth to get this defenseman.

 

Have you not seen him in the playoffs this year? The league is moving on from his style of play. 




#2679298 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by krsmith17 on 24 June 2016 - 11:52 PM

First, how the hell do you know who initiated trade talks? For all you know, Holland could have approached Chayka with the proposal, taking complete advantage of the 27 year old GM... Secondly, how the hell do you know Holland had any intention in taking Chychrun? I would agree that he seemed like the logical choice, but for all we know, there was something about the kid that our scouts didn't like, and we weren't going to take him regardless of there being a trade or not...


#2679299 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Euro_Twins on 24 June 2016 - 11:54 PM

First, how the hell do you know who initiated trade talks? For all you know, Holland could have approached Chayka with the proposal, taking complete advantage of the 27 year old GM... Secondly, how the hell do you know Holland had any intention in taking Chychrun? I would agree that he seemed like the logical choice, but for all we know, there was something about the kid that our scouts didn't like, and we weren't going to take him regardless of there being a trade or not...


Impossible. Holland had no hand in the trade. He just said yes. Holland got lucky....


#2679286 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by kickazz on 24 June 2016 - 11:24 PM

You don't understand anything. You were compairing Bickell's deal with that one here which tells everything. You're just a clown. If you don't know what you're talking about you might just for once don't touch your keyboard. This deal happened because Chayka wanted the player we were about to pick. There's no need to praise Holland for this deal or to even compare him with Bowman. Only a troll like you could come up with something like that.

Careful now, you don't want to get yourself suspended with name calling, baiting, instigating and going off topic. It's really not that big of a deal. You just happened to be wrong and misunderstood the deal from the Red Wings perspective. 

 

Lighten up. The Wings made a good deal tonight and Ken Holland exceeded expectations from the looks of it. Datsyuk's contract has been moved.

 

Grab a beer. 

 

If you want to continue you're welcome to PM me. 




#2679285 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by kliq on 24 June 2016 - 11:24 PM

You don't understand anything. You were compairing Bickell's deal with that one here which tells everything. You're just a clown. If you don't know what you're talking about you might just for once don't touch your keyboard. This deal happened because Chayka wanted the player we were about to pick. There's no need to praise Holland for this deal or to even compare him with Bowman. Only a troll like you could come up with something like that.

 

This is so typical lol, something goes wrong Holland is vilified, something goes right it has nothing to do with him.




#2679216 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by kickazz on 24 June 2016 - 09:05 PM

Just to put things into perspective here:

 

Stan Bowman gave up Teuvo Teravainen to move Bryan Bickell's contract. Ken Holland went from 16th pick to 20th pick in the draft and on top of that got a 2nd round pick to make up for the lost 3rd round pick.

 

And supposedly Ken Holland sucks and Stan Bowman is god because his father was  god. 




#2679215 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 24 June 2016 - 09:04 PM

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#2679202 Detroit trades Datsyuk to Arizona

Posted by Echolalia on 24 June 2016 - 08:55 PM

Jesus Holland next time at least use lube.


#2679154 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 24 June 2016 - 08:33 PM

Is Stanley still available?


LORD STANLEY is still available #wingswinitall2k17