Cap is gonna keep going up. These contracts won't be bad in 3 years time
Make it 5 and I agree.
Seems like I've been hearing this for years about how teams like Chicago and Pittsburgh are going to be in cap trouble and yet every year, they seem to be able to ice a better team than us.
Haven't heard it about Chicago at all. The Pens on the other hand are a prime example of my point: They didn't won a cup since '09 because they lack depth, which is because Crosby and Malkin eat up a lot of their capspace. Granted, there were other reasons too, but the main reason for me is the lack of quality bottom 6 forwards and/or defenders.
Chicago and LA were strong teams over the past few years because they had the caproom to afford those kind of guys. With these contracts Chicago has taken the Pittsburgh road and it will show over the next few years.
This is how I see it: This 1st July is a big clusterf*** for us. There have to be serious problems within the Organisation if a team like the Caps got choosen over us. These Problems have to be analysed and adressed by Kenny and/or the Ownership. However I don't think these problems can be solved this Offseason.
Because of this I think the signing of Quincy is not ideal but reasonable. We were simply in need of a D-Man not named Kindl or Lashoff. Can anybody imagine how atricious a second (!) paring of DeKeyser/Lashoff would be? And to think that the Kids in GR would step up and fill the gap is very optimistic. It does work with exceptional gifted guys like DeKeyser, others need their time to get used to the NHL. Playing constantly on the second pair is asking to much of the guys.
Quincy is a stopgap for these 2 years to get these Kids ready, nothing more. Holland knows that, he knows that. There is no other reason why his contract is how it is.To assume Holland signed him as the solution for our problems is an insult to his intelligence. Holland signed him because he had no choice and Quincy was willing to play the patch for the next two years.
Ahh the old showing up to play homage that LGW bestows on players that apparently Babcock hasn't noticed. We're a much worse team without Franzen. I don't get why every player gets a pass on last season when comparing stats (datsyuk, zetterberg) because of our miserable injury plagued season except for Franzen. You don't buy out legitimate top 6 players that have good contracts.
LGW: "we need two more top 6 players. Let's buy out Franzen and just buy 3 more. It's been really easy to acquire talent lately"
This. It's not that 20-30 goalscorers grow on trees these days.
The buyout on Tootoo was expected, so nothing new to discuss there. I think the signing of Tootoo was an experiment by Babcock and Holland. Maybe as a substitute to Homer. It turned out it didn't work and he doesn't fit in here. But I'll surely miss the little cannonball.
1. I don't know for sure either but probably that the Avalanche appealed first and not the player/his agent. Maybe there is also a clause in his current contract that under specific circumstances the club can do it if they can't agree on a new one.
2. I agree, its strange to say the least. You would think that the Avanlache would resign him in a heartbeat. I would if I were them. On the other hand : We don't know what salary or term ROR wants, it is also possible that he demands to much for the Avs to agree on.
When you say Niskanen wants a monster contract are you talking money or term?? or both?
Reality: Boyle is going to want just as much cash as Niskanen (5 Million +)
As far as term goes think about it this way: You sign a 27 year old defenseman who's finding his groove in the NHL to a 5 year contract. Guess what? In five years he'll still be a year younger than Kronwall is now. (...and at that point Kronwall is 38 and we'll all be calling for him to retire.)
I'm all for taking the 27 year old for 5 years who can grow and bolster our future over a 38 year old stop-gap.
Acquiring either Niskanen or Boyle in the over-priced auction known as Free-Agent Frenzy (yes, they're both up for auction) would hinder us from bringing up XO.
Trading Kindl. Duh?!
I don't think W4tC06 was suggesting that Niskanen is comparable to Suter.
The thing that is essential in comparing those two: Niskanen won't command the $$ that Suter was able to.
Acquiring Niskanen via Free Agency only creates more depth at defense which isn't a bad thing. What's the worst thing that happens? You trade some defensemen. Niskanen is an NHL proven defenseman. Sproul/XO/Marchenko/etc. excellent prospects, but unproven commodities. $5mill for 6 or 7... sure. or $5.5 for 5.
True. Acquiring Niskanen at this price and term will be a risk for sure, but we have to take some risks if we want to build a cup contender. No sane GM will let someone like Niskanen walk for nothing if he is already a proven #2 D-Man.
So I'd take any quotes postet here with a grain of salt. He did say them but Kenny doesn't sound as if he already made up his mind about his moves in the offseason. How could he, our season is just over since a few days.
I don't think Boston took us lightly. They played really, really good. It was a very even game. I think we just saw that Detroit is, in fact, on the same plane as the Bruins. Very closely matched team. Sent from my ADR6350 using Tapatalk 2
This. Could have gone either way. Proud of the team nevertheless. Thats wasn't just dumb luck, that was hard work paying off. They were the better and more clever team over two periods.