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#2684003 Red Wings All-Bust Roster

Posted by kliq on Today, 12:20 AM

I don't consider Brunner a bust. Not a whole lot was expected of him and he was decently effective in his short stint with us. For a very short time, the line of Nyquist-Andersson-Brunner was kinda sorta awesome.


Probably the highlight of the 2013 playoffs.


#2683986 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by F.Michael on Yesterday, 08:01 PM

Sproul >>> Wisniewski

I look at Wiz like a used condom...

#2683965 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Euro_Twins on Yesterday, 01:24 PM

I apologize for my constant helm hate every chance I get, but as annoying as that can be, it's just as annoying when also 8n every thread we have to read how helm is great for this team and is the best 3rd line center in the world. He simply is not. I admit, he is also not the worst thing for this team either. I don't like him, some love him. But if I'm to quit, I'd like to also stop seeing the polar opposite.

He's a bottoman 6 player who is overpaid, for too long and will probably be used inappropriately. If he pops up with with a NMC I will go and burn his contract personally and kick Holland in the area where most gm's balls reside.

....continued from DD thread.

So, what's the price for Trouba? Would you part with Mantha? What is WPG looking for?

So basically you'll stop posting how much you hate helm in every thread and every post as long as everyone agrees he's overpaid for too long and he's not a very good 3 center? Sounds fair I guess

#2683955 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by NerveDamage on Yesterday, 11:33 AM


#2683945 DeKeyser re-signed to a 6 year deal

Posted by marcaractac on Yesterday, 10:10 AM

I'm not going to moan about it, but it is more than I was thinking he is worth, but exactly what I expected he'd get.  Someone above mentioned that this is the going rate for a 2nd pairing guy, but I'm not sure that's the case....I think there is 15 or so teams in the league that have either no guys or only 1 D man making more than $5M...some have 2, less have 3.  


I always seem to be surprised at the length and the $ amounts of the deals that Kenny puts together, I guess it's a bit of a risk he normally takes....some work out really well and others don't.  DD is still young enough that the length won't be an issue and I guess Kenny is hoping the deal will look better towards the end of the deal vs today.


Gotta imagine a lot of these second pairing dmen making under 5 mil are probably on a contract signed when they had a lot of RFA years left. Complete speculation of course, but this was the deal to prevent him from going UFA next summer. He'd have made at least 5 mil had he hit the open market next summer. 

#2683891 Fixing this mess....

Posted by DickieDunn on 25 July 2016 - 10:27 PM

If a 4th line plays as much as a second line, wouldn't that make them a second line?

#2683854 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by Bring Back The Bruise Bros on 25 July 2016 - 06:58 PM

Most overrated qualities in an NHL player:


1. Grit


2. Penalty killing


3. Faceoff win percentage


Only makes sense that Glendening does all 3 of these pretty well

1. "Grit" is also one of the worst-defined terms on this site. What is grit? Is it fighting? Blocking shots? Finishing hits? Winning puck battles along the boards? I'd say it's a combination of all those things. With the exception of fighting, I'd say all of those things are imperative to winning games, especially in the playoffs. One of the major reasons Tampa was able to dispose of Detroit in 5 was because their forechecking wore down our defense and forced turnovers. Additionally, they won a ton of 50/50 puck battles along the boards. 


2. Again, you can't have a deep playoff run unless you have a reliable core of PK specialists. I agree that some players' effectiveness on the penalty kill is used to justify their position on the team, specifically in the case of Drew Miller. He doesn't provide much else besides his role on the PK. Very little offense, not particularly fast, and ineffective on the forecheck. 


3. This is ludicrous. Games are won and lost in the faceoff circle. Puck-possession is the name of the game. This is one of the most bat-s*** crazy things I've read on here in a long time. 

#2683847 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Internet.Unknown on 25 July 2016 - 05:24 PM

But it just goes to show where Holland stands. Instead of putting the value and focus on the future, he puts it in helm. Mrazek will not forget this.

If Mrazek holds a grudge against the organization because of a contract offered to another player, screw him. He's a child and a *****.

#2683849 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 25 July 2016 - 06:29 PM

KH when he found out how much $$ Mrazek wants...


#2683827 Fixing this mess....

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 July 2016 - 12:59 PM

Glenny should and is 4th line. Z should be 3rd line winger, Miller should be 13th forward.

There are other ways to make your team better, don't suppress more deserving kids by signing players that bring less to the table.

#2683758 Hall of Fame Worthy

Posted by TheXym on 24 July 2016 - 04:17 PM

Don't forget time lost due to lockouts. That would have added to point totals as well.

#2683736 Hall of Fame Worthy

Posted by kipwinger on 24 July 2016 - 01:49 PM

He was voted the best Russian, ahead of Malkin and Ovechkin, in 13 and was widely regarded as one of the top 3 players from the 04-05 lockout until injuries started showing him down. Announcers on national broadcasts generally called him arguably the best because of his defense, and most people agree he'd have scored a lot more if he had wanted to.


Just to play devil's advocate, didn't you just say in another thread that Helm isn't the best 3rd line center in the league just because Babcock said so?  Why are announcers' opinions of Datsyuk any different than Babcock's opinion of Helm?

#2683615 Tyler Bertuzzi goal.. Savage lol

Posted by Hack & Whack Rule! on 22 July 2016 - 07:38 AM

That isn't very European. I do hope he apologized via a handwritten note on delicate hand made paper and sent some chocolate to the poor D man. 

That actually sounds very Canadian.

#2683571 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 21 July 2016 - 12:03 PM

I do that.

Nyquist, Pulkkinen and Oullett. For who? What will that get us? Most definitely Fowler, but Trouba, Shattenkirk?


I think its enough to get a player like Trouba - unfortunately WPG probably isn't as interested in Nyquist/Pulkinnen as others would be. It certainly gets you Fowler/Shattenkirk but I think it's an over payment for either of those two players.

#2683556 Who should get A?

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 21 July 2016 - 01:43 AM

I'm actually on board with Larkin, though I think I voted for Abby originally. I think the team's at the point that the young players need to be taking over the load and it would be a good message that the team is yours based on your present contribution rather than a hierarchy of experience. DK would be a good option for that message as well, but Larkin is more of a lock to be an elite player on the Wings for a long while.