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#2674379 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by CrimsonFlame on Yesterday, 10:04 PM


As opposed to profiting that much. It's still a difference of that much money.


But that's kind of the point. 


If for example Comerica bought the naming rights people might be annoyed but everyone could understand becasue they would have had to have dumped a battleship full of money onto Mr. I's front yard. 


This is simply shuffling money from one of Mr. I's companies to another.  He's not making any money by doing this.  Sure you could say there's a gain in marketing but I'd argue it's completely negligible anyway becasue who the hell around here doesn't know about Little Caesars already.  It's so incredibly self centered for such little gain.  Here was a chance really rally the fan base around something and instead he sold out to himself for a marginal marketing effect.  No one is surprised by the decision, and of course he  but that doesn't make it any less offensive to us. 


This is also ignoring the fact that half of the stadium comes from publicly funded money (I could be wrong though) so why should he get to profit off of the taxpayers capital without their consent?  And also ignroing the fact of the gigantic bait and switch with the roof again for marginal corporate gain.  And also ignoring the fact IT'S A FREAKING MEDIOCRE PIZZA CHAIN.  NOTHING ATHLETIC ABOUT IT. 

#2674302 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by kipwinger on Yesterday, 06:42 PM

I agree with this perspective to a point and John Oliver did a solid episode on publicly funded arenas. I've heard arguments on the other side that also sway. I've seen that the arena is estimated to cost $627M and could go higher. Even though Ilitch is personally worth 5 billion+, I doubt his company has that amount of free cash to spend at one time so I understand if a certain amount coming from government funding.
One thing to consider on the naming issue, is that the Ilitches have essentially turned away a huge amount of money by not selling the naming rights to another company. Maybe it's their interest to have the advertising (although I don't think it's that much extra exposure - we all knew the new arena would be lined with Little Ceasars venders, signage, and they would give free pizzas at the games just like they do at the Joe). But think of the alternative of them taking a huge amount of public money and then using the arena to bring in an extra money to cover part of their end (Blues got 70 million for 20 years naming rights for the Savvis center for a random example)  Probably everyone would prefer Howe arena or honoring some local hero, but I think Little Ceasars is the best option for corporate naming.

I get WHY public funding is often necessary, I'm not even against public funding. I just think that if you're going to accept public funding for your teams new arena you should probably make an effort to represent and validate their contribution rather than be wholly greedy and promote your brand to their exclusion.

#2674368 Official - Little Caesars Arena

Posted by GMRwings1983 on Yesterday, 09:09 PM

Basically. It was supposed to be a Red Wings arena but it's turned into a Little Caeser thing. Mike Illitch trolled us hard. 


Would be one thing if tax payer money wasn't involved. 


Even the WWE wouldn't treat its fans this way.  

#2674011 Random Discussion Thread

Posted by NerveDamage on 27 April 2016 - 11:33 AM


#2673958 Name That Band

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 26 April 2016 - 11:06 PM

What you are when someone ignores the sign on the door of your room.

Was gonna say "caught masturbating," but something tells me that's not what you're looking for

#2673724 WCQF : Chicago Blackhawks vs. St. Louis Blues

Posted by BottleOfSmoke on 25 April 2016 - 10:31 PM

Hide yo kids, hide yo wives, and hide yo husbands...

Because Patty Kane has more time off this summer to be a scumbag.

#2673492 Fixing this mess....

Posted by LeftWinger on 25 April 2016 - 10:20 AM


I apologize again for generalizing that Swedes, more specific our Swedes care more about National Play than the Cup. Looks like I put a foot in my mouth with that post elimination post I wrote. My bad...

#2673557 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 25 April 2016 - 02:54 PM

@Stefan Kubus

Howard: Would be OK with a trade. It's part of the business.

#2673490 Who gets the "A" when datsyuk leaves?

Posted by matt198913 on 25 April 2016 - 10:02 AM


#2673413 M1. Washington Caps vs W2. Philadelphia Flyers

Posted by DatsyukianDekes on 24 April 2016 - 07:21 PM

ovie is so bad playing any defense


He's not there to play defense.


He scores 50 goals annually. Wish the Wings had a player like him.

#2673383 I Hate Jeff Blashill because ...

Posted by e_prime on 24 April 2016 - 04:24 PM

Crawford is a circus act. I'd rather see someone like Ron Wilson if we're going names.


Anyway, we're not getting a new head coach.


I don't hate Blash.  New Head Coach trying to do the same as the Old Head Coach... same result.  Not surprising.

#2673369 LGW Moderator Problems

Posted by 55fan on 24 April 2016 - 02:26 PM

In all honesty, that's why I don't go into the GDT unless we're running away with a game.  I hit the GDT to admire Mikey & Co's handiwork and maybe some pre-game comments.

There's a huge difference between "That was a bad turnover; X has been bad these last few weeks." and "Xf****** sucks!  If Kenny resigns him, Kenny should be fired!  Kennyf****** sucks!  This whole teamf****** sucks!" and on and on with the sucking posts.

It gets to be like a pile-on when everyone is doing it, and that's all that's being done.  Sometimes I even ignore the people I usually watch with if it gets too bad.


If the conversation is like a bunch of friends having a beer and talking about the game, that's great.  If it sounds like a bunch of drunk girlfriends bitching about their men, it's not so fun.  I can't speak for a mod, but I'd bet that's the distinction that was made.

#2673339 Potentially new GMs

Posted by kliq on 24 April 2016 - 10:15 AM

this isn't a discussion about Holland it's about potential replacements. And no, retooling isn't the same as rebuilding.



at least try it and throw the bank at him won't be an easy sell with all the holes, that's for sure. Should have never let him and Nill go. Kenny should have taken over from Develano 4 years ago so maybe it's not a position he wants

I also don't believe Mr. I would be happy with a first round exit streak. that's pathetic for wings standards


Gee I wondering how this became a discussion about Holland, who started that???

Accept the re-build Frank.

#2673218 ECQF : New York Rangers vs. Pittsburgh Penguins

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 23 April 2016 - 06:01 PM

So, what exactly is Lundqvist the "King" of? 

#2673045 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by PavelValerievichDatsyuk on 22 April 2016 - 05:12 PM

Maybe there's some Swedish House Mafia running in the locker room, but that's as close as that blog article could to be to the truth.