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#2685133 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on Yesterday, 01:26 PM

We have  too many 2nd pairing D-man trading for another is not very smart. Talk to me about potential 1D trades. Enough with the Fowler stuff, the guy is a 2D and nothing more. People keep talking about how we're mediocre but their solutions consist of mediocrity. 

#2685129 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on Yesterday, 12:39 PM

Lol at people who are overrating Fowler. 


Talk Trouba and I'll agree, but Fowler will always be nothing more than a 2nd pairing D-man. 

#2685110 Datsyuk Announcement to Officially Leave NHL

Posted by kickazz on 26 August 2016 - 05:04 PM

I'd still take Datsyuk for 40 games over Vanek for the next 5 seasons

Vanek isn't his replacement though, Nielsen is. Vanek is Franzen's replacement. 

#2685019 Single Game Tickets Pre Sale

Posted by kickazz on 24 August 2016 - 01:49 PM

Anywhere in the Joe is good. Literally.

I prefer the side where Red Wing's shoot twice.

#2684975 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 22 August 2016 - 03:13 PM

Red Wing players as olympians -


Hurdles - Darren Helm

100 meter sprint - Dylan Larkin and Andreas Athanasiou

Gymnastics - Petr Mrazek

Beach Volleyball - Niklas Kronwall and Jonathan Ericsson

Diving - Gustav Nyquist  :lol:

Rowing - Henrik Zetterberg

Weightlifting - Justin Abdelkader

Handball - Brendan Smith  :hysterical:



#2684930 Ryspayev Should Be Banned.. Disgusting.

Posted by kickazz on 18 August 2016 - 03:28 PM

He should join the MMA now to show us what he's really made of. 

#2684913 AA

Posted by kickazz on 17 August 2016 - 05:03 PM

Alrighty.. This thread is about AA but since we are talking about Zetterberg, I watched him skate yesterday in Stockholm, just for a few minutes. It was at the end of his workout. He looked spry and was going full stride, looking good doing it.

I have no info or idea of his back issues but he has clearly been taking care of himself in the off-season. Conditioning is there, no doubt.

He was fine last year in the beginning too, he hit a wall around January though. It's about that longevity. The less he plays the longer he will last with those legs you saw yesterday. 

#2684844 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 15 August 2016 - 05:16 PM

I stand firm with trading prospects. That was one thing Dave Dom browsing did really well for the Tigers. Whrn he traded Maybin, Miller, Ravello, and everyone else for Cabrera and Willis some fans list their minds because Maybin was a potential star and Miller was a potential top of the rotation lefty with a good fastball. Other than extending Willis immediately, that deal worked out pretty well.

So you would trade prospects for middle pairing defenseman? There's no top 2 D-man in the league that's available for trade from what I'm seeing. Why stack up on middle pairing D-men? We already have a lot of those. 


And at one point, Cabrera was like the Ovechkin of baseball. Bad example. 

#2684813 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 14 August 2016 - 04:07 PM

I may be going to the Sweden vs. Russia game I haven't decided yet. Larkin's North America jersey looks pretty sweet. 



#2684802 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 14 August 2016 - 12:11 PM

Everyone is so good at pointing out the problems with the team without providing any better solution

Lol. If I went through the last 500 GDTs (I'm not even exaggerating it's that sad), I'd probably find a million posts of you doing the same exact thing. Practice what you preach. And from what I've seen, a lot of people have actually suggested their ideal line-ups and direction they would like out of the team. 

#2684786 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 13 August 2016 - 05:45 PM

He went from being a highly skilled goal scorer to playing safe dump it in never take a chance defense only hockey. Do you really believe the coaches aren't telling him to do that?

Highly skilled goal scorer in the AHL maybe lol. 

"It's just the way the fourth line plays". This right here is my biggest issue. The 4th line shouldn't necessarily have to play that way, but the guys we have on our 4th line do. We could go with a 4th line of players sitting / sent down, Jurco - Athanasiou - Mantha, and actually generate some offense, but instead we'll have the "shut-down" line of Miller - Glendening - Ott...

Oh but that's what the coaches want and their word is a gold mine. None of us have any idea what we're talking about. We just read WIIM and are clueless about hockey. Clearly what Blashill did was the recipe for success. Dump and chase all day baby that's where it's at, just look at the last 7 years of Stanley cup winners. 


Wait a minute lol.. LA, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Boston... Well teams  are all ranked 1-4 in possession that DON'T rely on dump and chase... Whoops! 

#2684762 Patrick Roy steps down as Head Coach and VP of Hockey Operations

Posted by kickazz on 13 August 2016 - 10:50 AM

Roy's anger issues always got the best of him. Guy acts on impulse and that's why he probably ended up rage quitting.

#2684736 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 12 August 2016 - 04:27 PM

Hypothetically, what happens if both Athanasiou and Mantha kill it in training camp / pre-season, and force their way onto the roster, the same way Larkin did last year? Does anyone actually believe Holland would keep both on the opening roster (with everyone healthy), and waive a vet like Miller / Ott or make a trade to get down to the 23-man roster limit / cap compliant?...

I said this before. Larkin didn't force his way into the roster. We had an injured first line centerman who had been wanting to leave for Russia for two years. Larkin made the roster because we needed someone to fill a top 6 center role sooner rather than later. Larkin will be on center opening night this season for that very reason. If they hadn't brought him up last year then we would have had zero centers aside from a washed up Zetterberg. We only now signed Nielsen but last summer we didn't know we were going to have him. 


AA and Mantha have it even harder than Larkin did because there's literally no spots available for them on the roster. Larkin not only had a spot open but he also killed it in camp. It's like a two step scenario the way I look at it. First step is do well. Second step is "is there an open spot?" 


Mantha only makes it if there's injuries imo. Even if he kills it in camp, I just don't see him making it opening night. AA possibly the same situation, even though AA should be in by his better performance than most players on the roster last year. 


Some people here and on twitter are delusional and think that all it takes is for Mantha and AA to do really well in camp and they should get a spot "if they didn't make it that means they weren't good enough". That's not what it comes down to. As of now we have no spots so it doesn't matter how well these kids do. 


The other point I wanted to make was Ott and Miller aren't the spots AA and Mantha would be fighting for. Guys like Bertuzzi and Callahan would probably be gunning for those guys spots. AA and Mantha are top 9 players. And who did we re-sign for top 9 long term... 

#2684727 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 12 August 2016 - 01:27 PM

No lol. There's definitely players in the system that can do what Helm does. It's just that they don't get the opportunity and Blashill is too afraid to give them the chance. AA > Helm mark it. He's already a better producer than Helm is and played far less games and VERY limited ice time. He kills penalties (had a nice short handed goal), he's fast, has hands, plays with lesser linemates. Give AA the chance and he would probably do better than Helm. Helm is what? 29 years old? and still producing at a low rate while AA is 22 and already his production rate has surpassed Helm. 

#2684706 Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

Posted by kickazz on 11 August 2016 - 11:09 PM

What good is it to make the playoffs if they have no real chance at winning the Cup, other than a few million in playoff revenue for the owners?
I want another Cup ASAP. Signing Nielsen, Vanek, Helm, Miller, etc. And holding onto prospects instead of moving them for good players doesn't accomplish that goal now or in the near future.

Well I agree with your second statement to a certain extent and I've had my fair share of criticism of the off season moves. But I don't think the streak is an issue nor do I think it's that black and white. It would be ideal for management to continue the streak and at the same time to be able to make some major moves to improve things like the defense or whatever else we're lacking or are overstocked in (cough cough Howard, Ericsson).