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In Topic: Brad Richards Retires

24 July 2016 - 06:53 PM

Apologies for listing the Selke. Not sure where I got that from.
They have similar production. Pav played 173 less games. think that's a pretty significant difference and that's not even taking into account the defensive side of things. You say they both had 2 90+ seasons, but Pav also had 2 80+ seasons as well while Richard does not. 
And, yes, Richard had a decent defensive game, but not on the level of Datsyuk. Richard's highest +/- was +13 (with a cup winning team). Richards was only a plus player 6 of his 17 years. He played on some bad teams, but not that much. Datsyuk's highest +/- was +41 and was only not a plus player 1 year (2nd year). And I know that +/- is partially a team stat, but surely +249 vs -67 for their respective careers at least says something their difference.
You can look at many more reliable stats to show Pav's superior 2 way game, though:
                    Brad     Pav
Takeaways:  345      754
Giveaways:  424      380
Face-Off%:  50.3     54.8
Hits:             207      512
Corsi%:       51.7%  59%     (since 07 when they started recording these)
Fenwick%:  48%     58.2%
For a while Datsyuk was considered the best all-around player. That was kind of the common line amongst commentators that I remember for a while. 

That last line is the separating factor for me between Datsyuk and Richards. It seemed like a pretty common thought thay Datsyuk was the best all around player for a few seasons there.

In Topic: Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

14 July 2016 - 11:04 AM

I like Glendenning, but this just seems like such an unnecessary signing.

In Topic: Teemu Pulkkinen - Out 4-6 months

05 July 2016 - 12:50 PM

Wow, how unlucky. I thought he'd be a good trade piece. I wonder what happened?

In Topic: Official 2016 Detroit Red Wings Offseason Thread

03 July 2016 - 11:37 AM


The streak is meaningless unless it's accompanied by a legitimate chance at wining the cup.

Not to the people who run the team.

In Topic: Frans Nielson signs 6 year $5.25m AAV contract with Detroit

03 July 2016 - 10:21 AM

I know Frans isn't Datsyuk but it will be nice to rely on another top center playing over 80 games this year. Frans has only missed 5 games in the last 5 years which bodes well for us since we always have injured players.

When he gets injured and misses half the season, I'm blaming you.