who gives a s***. The Wings didn't lose this game because of Kindl. They lost the game because the Capitals took over the game in the 3rd and OT. You could see it coming, and if it wasn't for Mrazek, the game wouldn't even have gone to OT.
The Wings played well in the first 2 periods, but just looked like they almost gave up in the 3rd. The Caps were winning all the puck battles, had way way too much O zone time, and just wanted it more. It was just like waiting for the inevitable to happen. At least we had to wait til OT so at least we got a point.
Posted by Echolalia
on 19 November 2015 - 02:32 AM
Zetterberg had a bad night overall, not just in OT. There were quite a few uncharacteristic giveaways in the offensive zone.
I do think it's worth mentioning that despite what the outcomes of some of these more recent games has been, the Wings generally appear to be trending up in their game compared to earlier in the season. More shots on net, more offensive zone time, more crisp breakouts. If they keep on the path they're going, this club should easily get into the playoffs.
Posted by kipwinger
on 16 November 2015 - 11:21 AM
Mr. Winger... for once I agree with you
I hope we start to see slow steady improvement soon.
I think we already have. After our first few games we looked REALLY bad against Carolina, Ottawa, and on our Western Canada road trip. We looked absolutely abysmal against bad teams.
Since then I felt we played better, even when the win/loss column didn't reflect it. We played some pretty good teams recently, and I thought we looked good. We beat Tampa, beat Toronto (not a good team), lost to Dallas in a closer game than the score indicated, beat Washington in a strong performance, lost a good game to San Jose, and lost a stinker to Boston.
Lately it seems (with the exception of the Boston game) that we're playing good for periods of time, against pretty good teams. Earlier in the season we never played good, even against bad teams.
We're coming along. It's going to continue to take time. However, if we can hang around the standings (thankfully we're doing fine so far), I'd expect to see a dramatically better team after the new year.
Posted by kipwinger
on 16 November 2015 - 11:02 AM
To tell you the truth, I think I'd rather this team struggle to begin the season and finish strong down the stretch.
Last year the Capitals struggled badly during the first part of the season after Trotz came on board. Everybody expected immediate improvement considering Trotz is one of the better coaches in the league but presumably learning a new coach's systems and adjusting to massive personnel turnover took some time. However, once everything clicked they finished strong and were one of the hottest teams heading into the playoffs.
It's still the transition from Babs to Blash. Our new coach is only 18 games in the NHL. Of course our team doesn't look as well rehearsed as under Babs yet. And don't forget that we had games under Babs that were equally devastating, I argue even more so as we looked much more passive than under Blashill. Give him and the players some time before you see the sky fall.
I agree, and so did Babs and it worked most of the time.
Having said that though, I don't think Blash's line changes for last two games was smart. I thought Larkin centering Nyquist and Tatar was just fine and Datsyuk with Z was fine. We were down in San Jose and he changed it up. Babs usually changed it up only if there wasn't offense being generated. As far as I remember, we were getting decent opportunities in the San Jose game and were outshooting them. So I'm not sure if a change was really necessary.
Can someone that actually knows what they're talking about break it down for me?
We skated well in the first and outplayed them for the most part in the first. Howard let in one he shouldn't have. The second was pretty even. They shut it down and outplayed us in the third. We didn't win any battles and we looked like we just didn't want it. We hit a couple posts and had a few good chances we just didn't bury any of them. We still can't hit the net. The defense still isn't great. Datsyuk looked like a great, but very rusty hockey player. Someone needs to remind Abdelkader what his job is. I don't actually think we looked terrible except in the third. We had chances to win but only got one bounce on the Pulkkinen goal. Oh also our forecheck sucks. And we need to spread out the talent on the PP.
Posted by kipwinger
on 13 November 2015 - 11:35 AM
I don't really think that Abby had Holland over a barrel though. I think the contract is a little long sure. But I don't think Holland had no choice. If he'd have played hardball he surely could have gotten Abby down on term. It's not like Abdelkader wants to play anywhere else. He's "all in" on the Red Wings mythos. I think Holland gave Abby a long term deal because A) he knows and believes that Abby is a future team leader, B) He's doing the hometown kid a solid for putting in an honest effort every single day, C) he's sending a message to future high end players that he'll scratch their backs in the long run if they cut him a break on their bridge contracts.
It was awesome to have Athanasiou in the line-up. Since camp broke I couldn't imagine a winning team without Larkin and AA out there. We have needed to move dead weight on this team
for years and it never seems to get done. I'll never understand the thought of letting talent rot in the minors while we watch very average talent skate. Nice to see a couple kids who deserve to be
on the team and I'm still waiting for others to be shown the door.
Yea we should have the same philosophy of the Leafs. They are just so much better calling up there kids all the time and not letting them develop. Who really models there franchises after the Wings anyway?
From what I saw, aa moved up and helm got demoted.
That's when you seen helm start to turn into a wrecking ball.
I wish i could find a gift, but helm coming back and stealing the puck in the offensive zone amid a flurry of his ice spray was a beautiful photo opportunity.
I want athanasiou to be developed properly, and I don't want him to be in the position Jurco is, but if he can push helm into being a better player then it will be worth keeping him here. His speed is too good to ruin him completely anyway.
He played awesome today.
Miller-Glen-Helm was together from the start.
... I don't know why Pulkinnen is gifted that third line scoring role with PP time he's probably our worst forward
Not sure what your problem with Pulks is. By pretty much any statistical metric, he's been one of our better forwards.
I have a feeling he's going to be our new Franzen. No matter how well he does, some people will always think it's not enough.