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WingedWheel91

Member Since 11 Mar 2013
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In Topic: It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Yesterday, 12:25 PM

Toronto's an awesome city, I've lived here my entire life - The problem here is the size of the market and the historic lack of results across the board.

 

The Leafs haven't won a cup or been in the finals since 1967 - and haven't won a playoff series since 2004. 

The Raptors have only qualified for the playoffs 7 times in history - and haven't won a playoff series since 2001.  

The Blue Jays haven't qualified for the playoff since 1993.

 

This is the 3rd biggest city in North America, and we haven't had anything to celebrate since a first round playoff win in 2004 (although I am not a leafs fan). The media here is overwhelming, but even worse when every team is so bad... The signing of Mike Babcock is overblown but unfortunately the best thing to happen to the Leafs in a long time - as Red Wings fans we understand that he hasn't exactly been turning water into wine, and that he is in fact overrated, but it still represents improvement and direction to a franchise so desperately in need.


In Topic: Things you would like to see for 2015-16 Season

Yesterday, 11:59 AM

Don't forget, Glendenning was also developed by Jeff Blashill...  


In Topic: It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

22 May 2015 - 09:42 AM

The Leafs offered him $50,000,000 --and-- Red Wings offered him $20,000,000.

 

If I hear another thing about Shanahan's "persuasiveness" or ability to sign the "big whale" - I'm going to absolutely... do nothing different because this is the exact same thing I hear everyday in the ridiculous market.


In Topic: It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

22 May 2015 - 09:01 AM

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Mike Babcock is a good coach who just joined the Toronto Maple Leafs.

 

And so were Pat Quinn. Ron Wilson, and Randy Carlyle before him. To say he's a great coach is a stretch, but the best in hockey? Not a chance friends.

 

Mike Babcock is what he thought he was, a candid, mostly honest and hard working guy. If you listened carefully, he said everything you needed to know in yesterday's press conference in 2 sentences: "This is a massive challenge" and that "It was an offer I had to take". I didn't love the first statement - because I thought winning was his top priority, and for the first time in 10 years we heard him accept that "painful" or tough times are coming, and I also thought his problem with Detroit was that we didn't have a Pavel Datsyuk (franchise center) or a Nick Lidstrom (on the back end) in our pool of prospects, but I get it - the last thing Toronto needs (and I live here) are unreal expectations, so he said what he had to.

 

But the real reason "this was an offer he couldn't refuse" isn't because of the city, the team, or the "jersey" - and certainly isn't because Toronto has a brighter future than Buffalo or Detroit. It was because he was offered a game changing contract that probably elevates the way NHL coaches will be paid forever. Like players, coaches are also in a union - and have a unilateral responsibility to take action when it positively effects the fraternity. For example, as much as coaches in the Atlantic division might not want to play Babcock 4 times a year, they also raised a beer to him yesterday for arbitrarily making his rival's more money.

 

If you are worried about Babcock turning the Leafs into a contending team in the near future - please sleep easy tonight. He (himself) has already dismissed that motion several times.

 

If you are worried about the Detroit Red Wings taking a step back, please wake up. This team has a fantastic coach on the way - and they knew that all along. There's a reason why Ken Holland publicly said "money will not be an issue" yet consistently offered less than anyone else. Oh ya, and about that Franchise Center - seems like Dylan Larkin at 18 years old is about to turn Pro - Datsyuk was 24.


In Topic: Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

20 May 2015 - 12:53 PM

If you are a Detroit Red Wings fan, you should be very proud of Ken Holland for doing what he just did.

 

"Money will not be an issue" - yet we were always the lowest bidder in an attempt to resign Mike Babcock (while knowing him better than anyone). To me, I don't see this is as blind arrogance, but as a brilliant play by Holland to say and do what he had to - knowing the process would end with Jeff Blashill coaching this team for the next decade. I honestly am more excited with this information than I would have been had we re-signed Babcock, and lost Blashill.

 

Babcock is a good coach, and should be praised for his Stanley Cup here - but his resume only shines with accomplishments that were legitimate expectations as well. He inherited Nick Lidstrom, Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg in their prime - yet only took us past the 2nd round of the playoffs in 3 out of 10 years he was in Detroit... (2007,2008,2009). In 2007 we had the most regular season points in the league, and one of the best teams on paper - and we certainly had the best team on paper in both 08/09.

 

Blashill has coached professionally for less than 6 seasons - and if he wins the Calder Cup this year (which isn't a stretch) he will have 3 championships to show for it. He has also developed more than half of the current Detroit Red Wings roster (who won the Calder Cup 2 years ago), and has since developed players like Pulkinnen, Anthanasiou, and Marchenko the same way he developed the likes of Nyquist, Tatar, and Sheahan. This guy just continues to do it, and seems like he gets more out of these players than Babcock has - albeit at the AHL level.

 

I don't think we lost the Mike Babcock sweepstakes, but won the Jeff Blashill award.