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WingedWheel91

Member Since 11 Mar 2013
Offline Last Active Jul 24 2014 02:57 PM
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In Topic: Holland Wiki page edited

15 July 2014 - 08:10 AM

I'm very close to one of the players on this team (take it for what its worth) and I can tell you that a lot of free agents get hung up on the city rather than the organization. Based on the roster and the tradition, good free agents will listen and give us a meeting, but when it comes down to picking the right team (as long as they have similar offers) players are picking better places to live instead of to play.


In Topic: Red Wings Target Mike Green

10 July 2014 - 03:06 PM

I specifically don't quote or directly reply to responses because I am not interested in having a one on one conversation over a forum, with someone I don't know. Based on the number of posts some people have, I am sure it exists but I'm really on this site to read and share (my) opinions, like them or not.

 

Trades are and always will be about risk vs. reward and hindsight is always 20/20. When we traded for Legwand and put him on a line with Franzen and Nyquist - they simply dominated. They put us in a position to win on a consistent basis, and we made the playoffs because of it. During that time, there were some games and I remember the NJ one specifically where we had pencilled Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Abby / Franzen - Legwand - Nyquist to be a great top 6 when D and Z returned to the lineup. Very few people complained about the trade at the time, but when they did come back - something happened to both Legwand and Nyquist. The pace was never assumed to continue, but Legwand barely cracked the roster during the playoffs.

 

You can evaluate the trade: If Jarnkrok turns into an all-star, we lose. If he turns into a mediocre player, who cares. If he struggles to be an NHL regular based on his size/skills, we win because we kept a great streak alive and in that time, found out who Gustav Nyquist was.


In Topic: Red Wings Target Mike Green

10 July 2014 - 02:28 PM

It requires common sense and not "evidence". If he were a Red Wing today, he would not make this team - when he becomes an RFA in July, he does not have to resign with the team and he can go back to play in Europe (which was reported at the time of the trade). No he has not published a book about his intentions if he wasn't traded, but I'm sure the reports were not just made up.


In Topic: Red Wings Target Mike Green

10 July 2014 - 02:10 PM

Don't really understand the comparison between Jarnkrok and the 2014 Draft Class - Calle Jarnkrok is going to be 23 years old when this season starts, but players drafted by the Red Wings today are almost a full 5 years younger than he is... Meaning they are 2-3 years away from playing. Calle Jarnkrok is ready now and wants to play now - but unfortunately he wasn't going to make the Detroit Red Wings this season, and is an RFA in July.

 

And If he wasn't going to make this team in a bottom 6 role (which is a reasonable approach considering his defensive inefficiencies) - He would have probably been waiting until one of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Weiss, Franzen, or Nyquists (which is coming) contracts to be off the books at a minimum. Of our top 6, the first contract to expire is Datsyuk's in 3 years. Jarnkrok would not have waited that long.  

 

Often overlooked is the fact that our GM who recognized this, places on emphasis on opportunity and may have wanted to give the kid a chance to play elsewhere. It helped continue the streak... which may be one of the few motivating factors left in attracting players.


In Topic: Red Wings Target Mike Green

10 July 2014 - 01:33 PM

Valid point - The answer is maybe, but maybe not... Any good RH Dman that we are linked too always includes the likes of Tatar, Jurco, Nyquist, or Mantha (a prospect much more valuable than Jarnkrok was) in return. You don't hear Pulkkinen, or Sproul, even Mrazek (our good prospects in a similar class to Jarnkrok) in trade talks for what the Red Wings are currently trying to acquire.