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#2609598 Dylan Larkin turning pro... will play for GR immediately

Posted by krsmith17 on Yesterday, 05:44 AM

Top 6 go-to guy in Grand Rapids >>> Bottom 6 support guy in Detroit - (in regards to what is best for his development)


Develop this kid the right way, don't rush him like we did Jurco. I understand that there is a huge difference between Larkin and Jurco, but Jurco was also a year older than what Larkin will be going into camp this season. He wasn't ready and neither is Larkin in my opinion.


Let's see what he can do in the next few weeks, but even if he puts up a point per game, I still say he should start next season in the American League...

#2609626 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by kipwinger on Yesterday, 09:16 AM


Not necessarily. I'd agree with you but there wasn't a bidding war from the Leafs side according to Shanny and Babs. The Leafs made the offer before Babcock was heading to Prague. The only one that raised their offer were the Red Wings. If you believe that is of course your choice, but I haven't seen any media piece that says otherwise. What does it tell us ? Well, Babs didn't demand that kind of money and I'm sure he'd still choose the Maple Leafs if we matched that offer or if the Leafs offer wasn't better than our first.


"It all comes down to cash" is a too simple answer.  Decisions are made because of a number of reasons. Money may have played a role, but all the other factors mentioned here in the thread and by Babs were probably more significant. If everything came down to money no one would have blamed Babs if he said so. He could have just sat in the presser and told the media that the Leafs made the best offer money wise. Would you blamed him ? I sure wouldn't. Almost nobody would. Instead he made lengthy explanation that sounds reasonable for a guy like him.


He did say that in the presser.  He said that Toronto made an offer he couldn't refuse.  Every other thing he said would factor into the decision went right out the window when that offer was made. 


He said his family's input would make a difference.  They wanted to stay.  He left.

He said he didn't want to be part of a rebuild.  Toronto is rebuilding.  He signed.

He was concerned about Detroit's future prospects.  Ours are better than Toronto's.  He signed with them.

He said he wants to win.  Went to one of the league's worst franchises.


I'm not even lambasting the guy.  I'd have left for that money too.  I'm just wondering why everybody feels the need to act like this was all about something it wasn't. 


Detroit has a long history of people who have PROVEN that they'd rather win than make the most money.  Not just said it.  Did it.  They've done it over and over and over.  From Holland to all of our star players, each could have made more money if they'd hit the free market.  They chose not to because they liked being here, and so they were willing to take less. 


But Mike Babcock isn't one of those guys.  He's not Nick Lidstom.  He's Sergei Fedorov.  Nothing wrong with Sergei, great Wing, great player, decent guy.  Same with Babs.  But they both chased the money.  Plain and simple. 

#2609622 It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

Posted by dirtydangles on Yesterday, 09:03 AM

I think babcock hinders their rebuild. if he can get them to be a 6-12 team with the current roster they won't be drafting high enough to get the players that will put them over the top. They needed a few tank seasons before bringing in a coach like babcock

#2608896 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by Detroit # 1 Fan on 20 May 2015 - 12:59 PM


Plot twist: Holland hires another coach and loses Babs and Blash  :ninja:



#2607941 Babcock granted permission to talk to other teams

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2015 - 09:48 AM

My bold prediction...


If Babcock leaves, Blashill will win a Cup first (with Detroit). 

#2598536 ECQF Game 4 GDT : Lightning 3 at Red Wings 2 (OT) - Series Tied 2-2

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 23 April 2015 - 12:27 PM


#2593202 Why so negative?

Posted by captain2005 on 14 April 2015 - 01:21 PM

Wings in 6 baby

I see your wings in 6, and raise you  Wings in 5 baby. ;)

#2593191 Why so negative?

Posted by canadian wings fan on 14 April 2015 - 12:03 PM

Wings in 6 baby

#2593177 Why so negative?

Posted by number9 on 14 April 2015 - 11:32 AM

Wings in 4

#2529373 Dont Jump Yet...

Posted by wings4thecup06 on 02 July 2014 - 10:12 AM

While you've probably opened another can of worms within which people can keep the fire Holland trend going, I have to say, I couldn't agree with you more. As one of the few people around here who seem to actually be optimistic about this coming season, it's refreshing to see other with a similar opinion.

#2529310 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by AtomicPunk on 02 July 2014 - 07:38 AM

Is it July 1 or April 1? Please tell me this is a joke.

#2509731 Round 1 Line Combinations

Posted by LAWings on 15 April 2014 - 12:06 AM

We saw how well the kids played with Dats and Z out, so why not creat havoc for the B's and put Dats on the 3rd line?


Nyquist - Legwand - Franzen

Tatar - Sheahan - Jurco

Helm - Datsyuk - Alfredsson

Miller - Glendenning - Abdelkader


It may look strange, but how do you counter that?

#2428200 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by The Axe on 06 July 2013 - 06:11 PM

I already got it some people hate him no need to repeat 10 x a day

I dont hate him. I like him. For 2.5 mil max.

#2428004 Brunner Contract Talks

Posted by whitey on 06 July 2013 - 11:42 AM

Losing Brunner will amount to almost nothing when this season gets underway - because what exactly are we losing?

With the depth at forward this year, Brunner would be in the same position he ended last season, playing RW on our 3rd line. If you remember, Brunner scored his first 10 goals playing with Zetterberg in the first 19 games of the season getting close to first line minutes. When the rest of the league started to get their legs back and the quality of play increased, he scored only 2 goals in the remaining 25 games from the third line. The playoffs showed a better GPG rate, but 5 goals in 14 games isn't worth gambling on a 3 year contract when he hasn't played an 82 game season yet.

So, back to the original question which was what are we losing? Considering that Tomas Tatar will be taking his spot, an equally fast but better two-way winger, the answer is almost nothing. I understand depth, but there is no room in the top 6 for Brunner and certainly nowhere on the checking line. You could argue that with Tatars cheaper contract, the fact he is 5 years younger and plays with Grit, this is probably an upgrade. Oh, and not to mention Tatar also proved to be a pretty good playoff scorer last year in the Calder Cup.



Well said

#2426197 The Overreaction Thread

Posted by Playmaker on 04 July 2013 - 09:15 PM

Can we get a fan letter in to Mr Illitch to voice our displeasure with Holland? I think most people would just be happy with a GM that avoids dead weight players and lets the kids fill spots as they earn it. Im not saying holland should be spending to the cap with the flavor of the month - i just want him to stop pursuing old vets instead of letting the kids play. Why draft them then?

As Mr. Ilitch is Ken Holland's boss, I would guess the decisions he makes are with the approval of Mr. I or whoever is making the decisions for him at this point. 


Stan Bowman also had the good fortune of inheriting a team that had back to back top 3 picks in the draft, in which they were able to get Kane and Toews.  I would imagine if the Wings missed the playoffs for a few seasons and Holland was able to get picks like that, the Wings might look a little different right now. 


I see why this is called the overreaction thread.  We're barely into July and the Wings are already out of it.  LOL