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#2628462 Roster Moves by the Wings

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 05 October 2015 - 03:26 PM

I think the "right shooting defenseman" thing has tended to get overblown over the last three years.  Nothing about being a right shooter makes a guy better, or more deserving of a roster spot.  It's a characteristic that, all things being equal, you'd like to have a balance of. 


For instance, Marchenko and Smith were a better pair last year than Smith and Zidlicky.  In one instance having a righty worked, and in the other it didn't make much difference.  If forced to choose, I would rather have seen Smith with another lefty (Ouellet?), or Zidlicky with another righty (Marchenko?), rather than those two together. 


The lefty righty thing is based on all other variables being equal. If you're trying to find a partner for a lefty, and you've got two good guys with similar skillsets, then pick a righty.  But if one guy is a mismatch in every other way, but is right handed, don't give him the spot based primarily on that. 


Just my 2 cents. 


When you consider that over 70% of NHL Defencemen shoot left handed, It certainly helps to have a Right Handed shot when it comes to bubble players in the pre-season and/or free agents in the off-season. No, you aren't cutting Nick Kronwall to make room for Nick Jensen, but the theory of having an equal number of each stems from basic (positional) fundamentals and not just because it's simply good to have a balance of both.


Ideally, you would like to have 3 LH and 3 RH Defencemen at all times - because it's much harder to play the opposite side as a Dman than it is as a Forward...Alot of Forwards actually prefer to play their off-wing because its beneficial in most scoring area's around the slot.


As a left handed Defenceman playing the right side, it is much more difficult to retrieve the puck off the boards and move it quickly when sustaining offensive zone time... At NHL level, retrieving pucks on your backhand at the blueline to keep the zone (especially at even strength) typically gives the opposing team too much time to make a play. It's also harder to "play catch" and set up your offence at the top of the zone if both Dmen are Left Handed, and opposing teams will key in on this. Not to get too crazy, because we are talking about the best in the world here... but it's also easier to pivot, and force opposing forwards to the outside when you are playing the correct side.


On the PP, it's also beneficial to have both shots out there (think Lidstrom, Rafalski) - because once possession is established after the faceoff is won, the Defencemen can "switch" and create two shooting lanes as opposed to just one. Doing that, also creates room down low because the shorthanded team has to send 2 guys high...


It's not really overblown, and although you aren't arbitrarily a better player based on the fact you shoot right handed, you can certainly put your team in a position to be better. This is why they command more money every off-season, and more demand every trade deadline then left handed shooting players.

#2620593 Remaing RFAs to be signed - Jurco, Pulkkinen, Aubry

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 15 July 2015 - 10:49 AM

Just some Johan Franzen statistics I hope get considered when we potentially sacrifice Ferrarro, Pulkinnen or Callahan for him:


-He is going to be 36 years old in December.

-He has never played a full 82 game season in his career.

-He has only scored 30+ goals one time during his career - in 2008/2009.

-He has never recorded more than 60 points in any season during his career.

-He has played 33, 54, and 41 games respectively through the past 3 seasons.

-In those 3 seasons, he has scored 37 goals in 128 games - which averages out to be a 23 goal season (in 82 Games).

-Since 2010, he has scored 7 goals and 5 assists in 32 playoff games.


These numbers have predominately come as top 6 forward while lined up on either Pavel Datsyuk or Henrik Zetterberg's wing - but unfortunately, don't all of Gustav Nyquist, Tomas Tatar, Justin Abdelkader, Darren Helm and Riley Sheahan deserve or potentially do more with that opportunity than Franzen in 2015/16?  


If we believe that he's going to the healthy, rejuvenated, relatively quick power forward that we once saw - maybe I'm wrong and he would deserve a top 6 role... But when that doesn't happen, the collateral effects wont hurt us this year as much as next (assuming the Canadian Dollar doesn't rebound).


It also statistically proven that our team scores more goals and allows fewer goals without him in the lineup - puck possession doesn't really change. Not saying I know what to do with him, but we certainly have a financial problem if he can't crack the top 6.


All in all, you wont catch me in line buying umbrella's for the  "pro-Franzen s*** storm" that isn't going to come.

#2620464 Ryan O’Reilly Charged With Impaired Driving

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 14 July 2015 - 08:34 AM

This guy is all heart.


Not only does he crush 15 tall cans and decide to drive just a few days after signing a $52.5 Million contract... Not only is he driving an unbo green 1951 Chevy pickup that literally no one else would have, but he ultimately decides that a Timmies run is 100% happening right now - hits the building, drives down the road, stops the truck and runs away.


Get er done Kenny.

#2619993 Gustav Nyquist signed 4-Year Deal $4.75 mill AAV

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 10 July 2015 - 03:09 PM

Say what you want, Ken Holland completely delivered today. I certainly think this contract is more than reasonable considering the deals O'Reilly ($7,500,000 X 7), Saad ($6,000,000 X 6), and Taresenko ($7,500,000 X 8) recently received.


We still have the Cap Room to sign Jurco, Pulkinnen and Ferrarro - and another $8.6 Million coming off the books this summer (Quincey, Miller, Richards). Franzen adds another $3.9 if he cant go.











We are undoubtedly better than we were a year ago, and still had the eventual Stanley cup finalists 2 minutes (or a Luke Glendenning setback) away from a 3-1 series lead.


Cant wait.

#2619248 Nyquist Files For Arbitration

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 06 July 2015 - 02:32 PM

Left Winger - I agree... same train of thought.


I question:


1. If Nyquist scores 48 points (for example) next season, doesn't his trade value plummet? I don't think 48 points seems way off... And at that point he would certainly look more Hudler than Z.  

2. If Anthanasiou scores 60 points as a Griffin next season - Is he not heading down the exact same developmental path as Nyquist/Tatar/Pulkinnen? But as a bigger and more complete player than all three?


My point is that I think we really underestimate our player development system and forget that at some point we need to replace our franchise players... If Nyquist can be used as a legitimate piece to acquire someone with that potential - I absolutely do it.


Don't forget that our patented late round, offensively gifted, yet undersized players don't exactly have a history of lighting it up in the post-season - when it matters.

#2615740 Free agents this off season

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 23 June 2015 - 10:42 AM

Not sure why you think Franson isn't going to make around $6,000,000... He's 27, Right Handed, and has great size - even though he isn't worth it to me, unfortunately the market favours those characteristics.


This is also only the 2nd summer that limits contract length - meaning the cap hits are going to be higher because you cant circumvent salary anymore...


Already this year:







If Kronwall is making $4,750,000 - Do you think Holland can or will even attempt to justify signing Franson for $6,000,000? He already gave Ericsson the bad long term D-Man contract...

#2615718 Free agents this off season

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 23 June 2015 - 09:12 AM

I will personally turn my back on this team if Cody Franson is signed.


Scouting report from Khan:


Strengths: His offensive ability, He moves the puck well, has a good shot and can quarterback the power play.

Weakness: Is not widely regarded as a strong defender, lacking consistency. He registers a fair number of hits but isn't overly physical.


(1) - He has only had 2 seasons in which he scored over 30 points (33 in 2014 + 36 in 2015),  Both with Toronto, who (in his time as a leaf) were actually among the highest scoring teams in the league, but he was -20 in 2013-14, and -7 last year.


(2) - As a Leaf, he was essentially a top pairing player - typically playing with the Kessel, Lupul and Bozak line. He was on the #1 PP unit as well as the PK. What I'm trying to say is that he played in all situations, logged the most ice time and was generally in a good (if not great) situation to maximize his point totals - in spite of win totals.


(3) - At age 27, it was the Toronto Maple Leafs who decided that he was in no way/shape/form a part of this teams future. They traded him to Nashville, where he could barely crack the lineup (forget the top 4). On a good team full of good defenseman, he only registered 4 points in 23 games.


Say what you will, but we are a lot closer to the Nashville Predators than the Toronto Maple Leafs - and haven't we already seen what happens when signing a player (with the ability to consistently produce points on a bad team) to a multi year contract? Just like Stephen Weiss, Cody Franson has never shown he could combine individual production with team success.


No, he isn't worth 6 years at $6,000,000+.

#2613266 Time for an offer sheet?

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 05 June 2015 - 01:18 PM

Never understood why people don't understand this...


The RFA compensation system completely favours the team who initially drafted the player. In Dougie Hamilton's case (a player drafted 9th overall) seeking upwards of $7,000,000 annually - we would have to give up two 1st Round Picks, a 2nd and a 3rd Round Pick plus overpay him in the first place to prevent Boston from matching the offer.


Here is a look at the most recent players we drafted (with the same picks) that would be forfeited to acquire Dougie Hamilton:


2013 1st  - Anthony Mantha

2014 1st - Dylan Larkin

2013 2nd - Tyler Bertuzzi

2014 3rd - Dominic Turgeon


The problem is that he's seeking $7,000,000 from Boston, meaning he probably wouldn't sign an offer sheet with Detroit unless it was for $8,000,000, but Boston would probably match up until $9,000,000 - see where I'm going? So you have the highest paid Defenseman in the NHL, and it now costs you four 1st Round Picks. Would anyone trade Mantha, Larkin, Sheahan and McCollum for Hamilton? Not me.

#2613265 Which Sweater Do RWs Retire First - Feds or Ozzy?

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 05 June 2015 - 12:37 PM

Neither, but Fedorov deserves a lot more votes here than Osgood. Don't forget, he won the Hart Trophy, 2 Selke's and the Ted Lindsay award.


Both won 3 cups.


Not to mention his superior hockey swag. White Skates ->>>> Birdcage

#2612869 The return of The Mule?

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 02 June 2015 - 02:59 PM

I think most people are missing the point and/or are taking things personally...


We get that just because Jurco had a terrible season, doesn't mean he's going to have a terrible career. But if the 2-3 year projections put him in the 40-50 point range, how is he not expendable? No-one wants to lose him for nothing, but we already have a surplus of young players who can provide those numbers, and unfortunately we have other more pressing needs. Going back to what turned this thread around: The idea of trading Jurco in a package for Dion Phanuef (who is a defenseman capable of putting up 40-50 points today) makes our team better. Plain and Simple.


Tomas Jurco has never impressed offensively at any level of his career - 68 points following your draft year in the QMJHL doesn't excite me... Daniel Cleary had 115 for f*** sake. He also doesn't "excel" defensively and I have no idea who started this notion... As I said, he was the only regular forward on our roster who didn't kill 1 penalty all of last season. Honestly, 40-50 point left handed shooting wingers who don't do anything exceptional are called unrestricted free agents.


No were not releasing him, or turning our backs on him because we think he's terrible. I think were saying trade him to make the team better, knowing he can be easily replaced through free agency or the draft. You also have to give to get, and I think there are still teams that might bite on his potential at age 22.

#2612837 The return of The Mule?

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 02 June 2015 - 11:01 AM

Kipwinger - always seems to be you...


Jurco had strong possession numbers? He had 3 goals on 92 shots? Do you realize how bad that is? Possession means nothing without production.


But it's ok because Jurco is so good defensively? Is this just because his offensive numbers were a joke? Do you realize he was the only (regular) forward on the Detroit Red Wings who spent 0 minutes and 0 seconds on the Penalty Kill this season? This tells me (outside of Stephen Weiss) he's actually the worst defensive forward on our team.


And your comparison to Abdelkader is ridiculous, they are completely different players. Abdelkader's coming out party was in the Stanley Cup finals against Pittsburgh... He was inserted into the lineup because he could actually kill penalties (and score shorthanded) while manipulating the game with his physicality. I don't know if you're related to Jurco or something but he isn't this physical specimen you seem to think he is. It's playoff hockey pal, everyone hits.

#2611416 The return of The Mule?

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 29 May 2015 - 03:15 PM

Kipwinger -


This is a hockey website, where people talk about hockey. If Johan Franzen isn't doing his job, the hockey fans on this hockey website may use hockey language to express themselves. It may be vulgar - but its nothing personal.


Although it may look hypocritical, you can't fault the fans for eventually supporting him (on a personal level) considering what's currently happening to athletes who suffer from chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Franzen's situation is more important than hockey, and I think the people who realize that have changed tune quite a bit.


That being said - if the doctors say Franzen can go, its ultimately his decision to return to the ice. If he does, people maintain the right to criticize him if he isn't playing well. That's what $43,500,000 gets you.

#2611403 The return of The Mule?

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 29 May 2015 - 12:52 PM

lol Kipwinger... I played college hockey and all of the things you mentioned are called chirps. They happen every game to almost every player in every stadium. No-one is immune to it and none of it should be taken as personal insult - and it almost never is. I have been called much worse on the ice than whatever Johan Franzen has been called in this thread, by some people who I actually call friends today. I'm not saying its classy, but I don't think the fans on this site are truly questioning his sexuality, mental health, or criminality,


The reason I made the comment is because people (unfortunately) tend to use those same expressions in these forums (probably not in good taste) out of frustration when he isn't producing.. I cant count how many times I've screamed at my TV with a lot worse to say about Franzen than what you just mentioned, because his struggles always come down to effort - and this is hockey for f*** sake.


If he wasn't capable of so much more - people wouldn't be as harsh on him. Sorry, if 6'3 - 222 LB Johan Franzen played with even half the intensity as a Justin Abdelkader, Darren Helm, or Luke Glendenning (players who are all more effective with a fraction of the skillset) people wouldn't be so harsh on him.


If people were calling him a homosexual (as you say) after he scored a hat-trick and actually plays with some heart - I would have a much different opinion.

#2611093 Coaching Search Thread a.k.a. the Jeff Blashill Thread

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 28 May 2015 - 02:45 PM

Mike Babcock is a better NHL coach today than Jeff Blashill.


But today, Jeff Blashill might be a better coach for the Detroit Red Wings.


The following players listed in Bold are players Jeff Blashill developed in Grand Rapids or at Western Michigan before they played in the NHL.













Here's the important part: Every single name on that list (besides Pulkinnen) came to the NHL and made an impact immediately.


This isn't a fluke, or a system that condones itself to certain players - this is the result of a head coach who had the ability to make players better, and develop them into NHL caliber players. If you have the time, take a look at what Gustav Nyquist, Tomas Jurco, and Riley Sheahan did last year immediately following their promotions from the Grand Rapids Griffins. All of them averaged a significantly higher point per game average then, as opposed to this year playing only for Mike Babcock.


I don't know if its utilization or motivation, but these players seemed to be at there best when they most recently played for Blashill - and when that wore off, Babcock didn't get the same results.

#2610392 Jim Devellano on Mantha's play: "Very disappointing"

Posted by WingedWheel91 on 26 May 2015 - 12:15 PM

The problem with Mantha (and likely the reason he slipped to #20 in a draft he was considered the best goal scorer in) is and always has been his attitude/work ethic/compete level.


I obviously don't train or practice with the him every day, but I think its a pretty reasonable assessment to say his lack of results at the AHL level are directly related to habits rather than skillset. He's 6'5, 200+ LBS, and possesses a lethal shot which allowed him to score 81 goals in 81 games last year for Val d'Or, size isn't an issue and he didn't just forget how to score goals. I'm not saying anyone should have expected a seamless transition or comparable statistical output, but it looks and sounds to me like he became comfortable relying mostly on skill at the QMJHL level, and may have underestimated how much work goes into being a professional.   


I think Devellano understands this - and uses public criticism as a way to motivate a player capable of so much more.


This may sound crazy, but he's probably one of the few 20 year olds who might actually be a better Red Wing than Griffin. This way he can see first hand what it takes to be a Pavel Datsyuk, Henrik Zetterberg or Nick Kronwall.