Funny we get Torchetti and then bring in a guy he benched. This guy is a floater. Honestly I'd rather Holland did nothing than sign Nielson and Vanek, so much for getting guys that won't get pushed around.
K I'm all aboard the holland hype train but let's not forget that if we drafted chychurin would have been a great pick at our placement... Dumping salary for what? That was the easy part. Going forward is the defining moment for the offseason Omg I wish hypothetical trades dreamed up by members weren't allowed to be posted. Why would coyotes just trade hanzal without any reasoning behind it and why would he trade for our midgets. News flash! Nobody is looking to get smaller in today's NHL... Tatar scores around 30 but teams rather take a 15-20 goal scorer over 6 feet all day long
Which is why I never had any doubt that in the end we wouldn't have to give up a top pick or a top prospect like mantha ... Those teams are cheapskates and barely surviving and would do anything to save actual money
Great move by the wings tonight and got themselves and extra 2nd rounder tomorrow ... Now let's find a few gems tomorrow and hope we find an asset or 2 July 1st
While i do agree, I think the biggest reason it came together was Chychruns fall down the lineup. Arizona wanted him, and finally decided to pay the price.
Detroit is rumored to be interested in Lucic. As much as I think we need to get heavier and more difficult to play against, throwing a 6-year contract at Lucic would be an idiotic move. I just don't see Holland doing it. I don't see his production rising much, if at all, for the rest of his career. Let Edmonton or Vancouver make that mistake.
I don't really care about the lefty righty thing either. We have enough righties to make balanced pairs now with Green, Marchenko, and maybe Sproul.
I wouldn't trade Tatar thought. I want a team based on possession and he's been one of the best possession forwards in the NHL for the last two years.
Stats saying Tatar is one of the best forwards for that tells you how much stars can be off. He skates around refusing to pads then tries to skate through 3 defenders and either gets a weak shot or gives it up
NerveDamage, yes I do believe it's possible to sign Stamkos without trading Datsyuk's contract. There are always other options, but of course ridding ourselves of that dead cap space would be the easiest route. If we can't trade the contract though, it is very possible to trade Ericsson and Howard and still be able to go after the biggest UFA fish.
As I've said before, Howard to a team like Calgary for a mid round pick and Ericsson to a team like Edmonton ($1M retained) for a mid to late round pick... Those two moves alone would give us $8.5M in cap space, along with the few million we'll have after we sign our remaining RFA's.
As for Helm, he's the only UFA's that I'd personally like back, and if we can sign him for under $3M, that would be great. I'd have one of Helm or Sheahan as our 3rd line center, depending on what our overall roster looks like come October...
Come on, realistically, no one is going to take Ericsson off our hands. The guy has been brutal at times with his inconsistency, and that contract isn't going to do anyone any favours.
If you ask me, KH is kinda f***ed here by this whole situation. Yes he hasn't helped himself with some of the deals he's made (or lack thereof) but like, Datsyuk leaving creates a huge problem.
Look at it this way:
1. If he sits and eats the $7.5m cap space, he's going to get torn to shreds because he's responsible for not being able to move that space and then we'd never even have a shot at competing to sign Stamkos, or for that matter, one or two of the better free agents out there. E.g. Backes.
2. If he is able to clear it, he'll have to give up someone he doesn't want to, and considering the fact that there's only one reasonable team that can take on that contract now, the price will be relatively high. So there'll be considerable backlash if he ends up having to give up say, Jurco plus a pick. And then what if he strikes out in free agency? No Stamkos, no Backes, no Okposo etc etc.
Really, I think Howard needs to be moved this offseason, but again, that's going to be even harder now with the expansion announcement coming. I'd love to see Ericsson shipped out, but again, who's going to take on that contract and give us a good return?
Ideally, I'd like tos ee the kids play. Give AA, Mantha, Ouellet and Sproul full time jobs and hand them the reigns. If we miss the playoffs then so be it. but having Datsyuk leave a year early with an already declining Zetterberg makes this decision to turn the page somewhat easier.
I know that Holland doesn't want to give away too much in order to clear the contract, but look at it this way, if NOT losing someone like Pulkkinen and a 2nd round pick lets say is more important than not having a chance at Stamkos, then he needs to be fired.
He'll probably be successful in trading Howard, but he won't be able to trade Ericsson, so unless he gets rid of Pavel along with Howard, there is 0 chance at landing Stamkos...or any UFA that will make this team better.
You get one chance to land a player like Stamkos. Like I said, if keeping Pulkkinen and a pick that may never make the NHL, then he has to go.
Not saying thats the deal, but in order to get the free cap hit, Pulkkinen and a pick is MORE than enough. If they are talking Mantha or AA, then there better be a prime player coming back.
Pavel - Pulkkinen - Pick is plenty enough for any cap cellar team. If Holland wont give that up, fire him. If teams expect more than that, then I guess we're screwed for ANY quality UFA.
Define "3rd line." Is it your third best line? Your checking shut down D line? Helm isn't big enough to play like Abdelkader, and can't pass, shoot, or stick handle well enough to be productive in any other role. That's not a $3 mil player.
Blashcock wants his check line to play safe, boring hockey. That's why you get guys like Miller and Glendening on cheap short term deals and when you get a kid who shows he can do that job effectively, you let the vet go. A $3 mil player doing that is a waste of cap space.