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#2683233 Glendening signs 4-year, $1.8m AAV extension

Posted by DickieDunn on 14 July 2016 - 09:09 PM

The issue isn't necessarily about Glendening, it's about having several young forwards who are at least potentially NHL players in the next 2-3 years and Holland handing out 4 year or more contracts to guys who could easily be replaced and refusing to trade anyone else because it's hard.

#2680849 Darren Helm re-signed: 5 years, $3.85m AAV

Posted by Nyquistfan14 on 01 July 2016 - 09:00 AM

Kenny never fails for God sakes

#2673962 Fixing this mess....

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2016 - 11:23 PM


But why didn't he say the right things the past few seasons? All I have heard are excuses - cap, trading, parity, availability of players... Always some excuse with Kenny yet other teams win playoff series and cups.  


In previous years we didn't have guys with high end potential to start building around. Larkin is as close as a sure thing you'll find to a future franchise center. Same for Mrazek in goal. Get a legit top pair dman to play with Dekeyser and a solid foundation to build on is formed. The sky is the limit for AA and Mantha, and there is decent secondary scoring with Goose and Tatar.


There are plenty of assets to work with in trades, and for the first time in a while we can finally see who will be taking the reigns of the team. That is the first signs of the right time to begin making moves. Putting pieces around Hank and Pav these past few years was never the right way to go. The future had to show itself first. 

#2674051 The Missed Chances: '03, '04, '06

Posted by kylee on 27 April 2016 - 05:44 PM

2009, too.

#2674048 Making a move with AUTHORITY!

Posted by GMRwings1983 on 27 April 2016 - 05:39 PM

This thread title will be my new philosophy on Match.com

#2673812 Making a move with AUTHORITY!

Posted by Hack & Whack Rule! on 26 April 2016 - 10:33 AM

Goaltending is not our issue.

Goaltending is not our ONLY issue.

#2673545 Making a move with AUTHORITY!

Posted by OldTimeWinger on 25 April 2016 - 02:28 PM

Regardless of team and Mgmt rationalizations for the 2015-16 season and softball assessments from Detroit's press, it's clear this club has worn the tread off the Winged Wheel.

So the faithful don't hyperventilate, get a paper bag handy. The present day Wings can't score or defend. If not for the Parise-less Wild, they would have been the worst team to make the playoffs. Ah ...., let me restate that: They were the worst team to make the dance at a -13 goal differential.

Now that we have the cold hard facts of the away, let's give the DRW brain trust something to think about:
* No one, NO ONE, on this team should be considered untouchable.
* Who really believes Petr Mrazek can be an elite goaltender, capable of putting the team on his shoulders and win a PLAYOFF game(s)?
* Who really believes that there is a #1 or #2 D-man on this team?

Call me old fashioned. I remember Jacques Demers and Bryan Murray to Mike Babcock and Jeff Blashill. The 25-year playoff run and four Stanley Cups were built from the Defense out.

Understanding that Nicklas Lidstroms and Duncan Keiths don't grow on trees, the Wings -- with an excess of more than capable and trade friendly forwards -- need to make the strongest play for THE top defenseman in the '16 Entry Draft.

What better way to pay final respects to the Joe and open a new barn than with the reassertion by the Detroit Red Wings as SERIOUS players in the chase for the Cup!

#2673960 Holland (selfishly) declined promotion

Posted by marcaractac on 26 April 2016 - 11:18 PM

Yes, how horrible selfish of the man to have the desire to build another winner. Shame on him!


In all seriousness, Tampa was the right fit for Steve. They had guys like Hedman and Stamkos to build around, and he had a couple high draft picks to work with. Would have been a COMPLETELY different situation for him in Detroit had he become GM. The fan base would have already turned on him a couple years ago, let alone now. 


I am bummed out about losing Nill, however. Especially after seeing the man trade for Seguin (not that Boston would have traded him to Detroit anyway). But I'd have a lot more confidence in Nill this summer to make a move for a high end dman than I do Holland. 

#2673964 Holland (selfishly) declined promotion

Posted by ben_usmc on 26 April 2016 - 11:30 PM

no s***, why else did people think Stevie left?

#2667110 Pavel Datsyuk Career Appreciation Thread (Mod Warning Post #40)

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 April 2016 - 03:11 PM



Says it all....

#2671901 Fixing this mess....

Posted by LeftWinger on 20 April 2016 - 01:53 PM

Zetterberg should be joining them as part of their playoff run.  Maybe he'll be a beast in some playoffs again.  

Isn't a GM supposed to be more forward looking than fans and have better instincts?  Yes, any fan back then would have kept Franzen over Hossa, but Holland gets paid the big bucks we don't to make moves we wouldn't be smart enough to make.  

Not this fan. But that's an old debate! :lol:

#2670666 ECQF Game 3 Post-GDT: at Red Wings 2, Tampa Bay 0

Posted by Hockeymom1960 on 17 April 2016 - 09:39 PM

Blashill is an idiot when it comes to AA.  He makes no sense at all listening to this presser.

#2667025 Free Press: Pavel Datsyuk to return to Russia following Playoffs

Posted by LeftWinger on 11 April 2016 - 09:02 AM

Well this would be the fault of people getting their hopes up for nothing. I still believe he either goes home or signs with an up and coming team like Buffalo

Why not Detroit?


You use the example of Buffalo as an "up and coming" team, but isn't Detroit also in that category?


I dislike Holland's (lack of) moves as much as the next guy, but with Datsyuk most likely leaving, not that he was the problem, but he is about 50% of what he once was, that makes the team younger, opens a spot up to sign someone like Stamkos and if we cut ties with our other UFA's, that leaves a spot to get a #1 defender plus bring up some more kids permanently.


Detroit is indeed an up and coming team, Nyquist and Tatar are 30 goal scorers.  They had setbacks this season, as did most of our players, but I equally blame the coaching system they had to play under. They are still young.  You have Mrazek, Larkin, Mantha, Anthanasiou, Dekeyser, Sheahan...still have Pulkkinen and Jurco.  Like the term or not, Abby is in his prime and can still net you 20 goals.  If Helm comes back for a nice price, he can and will get you 15-20 goals. You have Bertuzzi, Svechnikov, Saarijarvi, Russo and Hicketts in GR as well.


The speed on this team is unmatched, Larkin, AA and Helm alone have to be three of the fastest skaters in the NHL. This team is up and coming, there is no reason why Stamkos wouldn't at least consider coming here. He also said he enjoyed paying with Larkin at the All Star game...not that he would say something negative about it or anyone else, but it does make Detroit at least a bit more interesting for him...


Not to turn this into a Stamkos debate, but his name had been brought up as possibly coming here especially if Pav leaves and we can shed that cap hit...even if he doesn't its still possible.

#2667060 Pavel Datsyuk Career Appreciation Thread (Mod Warning Post #40)

Posted by paulwoodsfan on 11 April 2016 - 11:41 AM


#2667030 Free Press: Pavel Datsyuk to return to Russia following Playoffs

Posted by Jersey Wing on 11 April 2016 - 09:20 AM

I wish Pavel the best and he doesn't owe anyone a thing.


Besides, with Holland so expertly carefully planning for his (and Z's) eventual retirement (just as had with Lidtstrom), the Wings are in extremely competent hands with a strong core of proven veterans who show up every single day to play and, gosh darn it, they pay to win! But there is more. They also are doing double duty in working with coaching to entrust a strong group of youngsters to take the reins. Just think how lucky we are are! Holland could have easily ignored reality, rewarded poor performing veterans, made high stake losing gambles on free agency, lacked the guts to trade away dead weight, and delayed the development of our young players, all in the name of clinging to useless playoff streak!



I agree BUT we must apply the dead weight rule to the kids as well. We can't fall in love because they're cheap if they're not fully contributing.