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In Topic: Slava Fetisov: Giant Hypocrite.

23 May 2015 - 07:36 AM

NHL RFA players can go to the KHL. Drafted players can go to the KHL. Fetisov wants all Russians to have to stay in Russia until they're 28, not just be bound to their contracts.

In Topic: It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

22 May 2015 - 07:28 PM


Babcock said his wife likes Detroit and is friends with Holland's wife, then the first conversation about what he was going to do didn't go well.  That was it.  So like I said, how do you know that she didn't see that offer from Toronto and say "OK let's go."  You don't, so your complaints are unfounded and based on partial information given by a guy (Babcock) who doesn't always tell the media exactly what he's thinking (see comments like "I don't know why Tatar is scratched.")


 
You are wrong. 
 
"To be honest with you, my family wants to stay here, my wife and kids."
 
http://www.mlive.com...ck_not_lea.html
 
And even if she did "see that offer from Toronto and say 'let's go'" then its ABOUT THE MONEY which is what I've been saying. 
 
But to reiterate, you are wrong about this.  Completely. 

Quote from when he first started looking. Opinions change.

If he'd left for am extra quarter mil, you could say it was about the money and the other crap you said. He got a significantly better offer though. Are you telling me you wouldn't leave tour job for a 25% raise?

In Topic: It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

22 May 2015 - 12:03 PM

Babcock said his wife likes Detroit and is friends with Holland's wife, then the first conversation about what he was going to do didn't go well.  That was it.  So like I said, how do you know that she didn't see that offer from Toronto and say "OK let's go."  You don't, so your complaints are unfounded and based on partial information given by a guy (Babcock) who doesn't always tell the media exactly what he's thinking (see comments like "I don't know why Tatar is scratched.")


In Topic: It's Official: Babcock to coach Maple Leafs

22 May 2015 - 09:30 AM


 
Not necessarily. I'd agree with you but there wasn't a bidding war from the Leafs side according to Shanny and Babs. The Leafs made the offer before Babcock was heading to Prague. The only one that raised their offer were the Red Wings. If you believe that is of course your choice, but I haven't seen any media piece that says otherwise. What does it tell us ? Well, Babs didn't demand that kind of money and I'm sure he'd still choose the Maple Leafs if we matched that offer or if the Leafs offer wasn't better than our first.
 
"It all comes down to cash" is a too simple answer.  Decisions are made because of a number of reasons. Money may have played a role, but all the other factors mentioned here in the thread and by Babs were probably more significant. If everything came down to money no one would have blamed Babs if he said so. He could have just sat in the presser and told the media that the Leafs made the best offer money wise. Would you blamed him ? I sure wouldn't. Almost nobody would. Instead he made lengthy explanation that sounds reasonable for a guy like him.


 
He did say that in the presser.  He said that Toronto made an offer he couldn't refuse.  Every other thing he said would factor into the decision went right out the window when that offer was made. 
 
He said his family's input would make a difference.  They wanted to stay.  He left.
He said he didn't want to be part of a rebuild.  Toronto is rebuilding.  He signed.
He was concerned about Detroit's future prospects.  Ours are better than Toronto's.  He signed with them.
He said he wants to win.  Went to one of the league's worst franchises.
 
I'm not even lambasting the guy.  I'd have left for that money too.  I'm just wondering why everybody feels the need to act like this was all about something it wasn't. 
 
Detroit has a long history of people who have PROVEN that they'd rather win than make the most money.  Not just said it.  Did it.  They've done it over and over and over.  From Holland to all of our star players, each could have made more money if they'd hit the free market.  They chose not to because they liked being here, and so they were willing to take less. 
 
But Mike Babcock isn't one of those guys.  He's not Nick Lidstom.  He's Sergei Fedorov.  Nothing wrong with Sergei, great Wing, great player, decent guy.  Same with Babs.  But they both chased the money.  Plain and simple. 

So you were there when Babcock talked to his wife and heard her say I don't want to go to Toronto, even for that much money? No? Then how do you know what his family wanted? Money absolutely was a factor, but if anyone gets offered a huge raise to go to a new company, I guarantee 99.9% of the time people leave. I mostly like where I work now, typical BS you find in any company aside, and it's less than a mile fromy house. But if I got am offer to drive 25 miles for another $3 an hour, I'd be out of there in a second.

Fedorov wasn't about the money either. He'd wanted out of Detroit for years, despite what he said in the media. He tried his best to get out after '97 and only came back because that ridiculous contract the Camels offered got matched. He wanted to go somewhere he'd be THE guy.

In Topic: About the 3rd Rd. Pick compensation...

21 May 2015 - 02:03 AM

I can't see Babcock having much info on who the Wings are looking at. He had other things to worry about.