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#2492186 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 06 March 2014 - 10:16 PM

No good defensemen were moved, and they were all rentals.  The only reason they traded for Legwand even though he isn't signed next year is because they were desperate for a center, more than a d-man even, and him waiving his NTC to come here and the fact that he's from Detroit and grew up a Wings fan should mean they can extend him if they want to.  Vanek or Moulson are probably going to test the market no matter what, and they don't play center, so they weren't options.




#2491690 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 06 March 2014 - 01:28 PM

Remember all the times Holland was ripped for saying he looked at a few things but ultimately the price was too high to make a deal?  Remember all the people that demanded he make a deal this year or he needed to be fired?  Jarnkrok was what it took.  You can't have it both ways, and border line NHL prospects like Almquist and Ferraro aren't going to get a deal done.  Does anyone really believe that Andersson, Sheahan, Glendening, and Emmerton down the middle would have been anything but a disaster?  Does anyone think that trading Jurco would have been better?




#2491606 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 06 March 2014 - 10:19 AM

Let's try this again.

 

Legwand is not a scrub, nor is he necessarily just a rental.

 

Jarnkrok hasn't proven anything and lots of prospects who are "for sure going to be great" never make it.  "Can't miss" prospects miss all the time.  Jarnkrok wasn't even a can't miss prospect.

 

They didn't trade Datsyuk or Zetterberg.  They traded a prospect.  Breathe.

 

How many good prospects that Holland has traded have done anything?  Fleishchmann.  If holland was willing to trade Jarnkrok for Legwand, he had a good reason.

 

What makes more sense, there was some truth to the Brynas rumors, or Holland traded a guy he thought would make it in the NHL in a panic move?

 

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#2491597 Who will have a better career as a Red Wing: Weiss or Legwand?

Posted by DickieDunn on 06 March 2014 - 09:45 AM

Assuming that Weiss comes back healthy next year, which is likely, and Legwand re-signs, Weiss is younger and has scored more than Legwand, so Weiss.




#2491374 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 08:57 PM


Wings were in on Kessler. Vancouver didn't trade him. They needed to make a trade for a center or pack it in. Ownership mandates the Wings push for the playoffs, Holland made the move he had to make.


 
The Ownership is in Lakeland Florida right now. 


You're right. And it's not like they have some kind of device that would let them communicate with Holland. Gotta wait for those pony express riders.


#2491320 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 08:13 PM

Wings were in on Kessler. Vancouver didn't trade him. They needed to make a trade for a center or pack it in. Ownership mandates the Wings push for the playoffs, Holland made the move he had to make.


#2491313 21 games to make it 23 years

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 08:09 PM

Jarnkrok is a kid. He would not have made an impact next year. Or the year after. Maybe in 3 years. Unless he pulls a Ryno and runs home or never develops. So much angst for a prospect who may or may not be good. How many "can't miss" prospects have we seen not come close to their potential over the years? Jarnkrok isn't even can't miss.


#2491228 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 07:01 PM

Legwand was the best center moved. Moulson and Vanek are wingers the Wings would probably have little interest in bringing back. Legwand may have told Holland he would sign an extension, at the very least it seems likely he will. If Jarnkrok ends up being a #1 center Detroit got hosed. If he ends up as a 40 point guy then it's a push. If he flops Detroit wins. Nashville taking Eaves does nothing to hurt us, so you can ignore that. They got a guy who can fill in now at a position of need for a pick and a prospect who is allegedly unhappy. Bottom line.


#2490880 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 04:32 PM

Eaves-no big deal

conditional pick, 2nd or 3rd- not a big deal

Jarkrok-guy who may never play in the NHL if he really wants to go back home.  Not a big deal.

 

Legwand was the best center moved.  Detroit got him.




#2490838 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 04:23 PM

 

Yeah, possibly our best prospect in the entire organization.

 

Not even close.  Best center prospect, yeah.  Others are better overall.




#2490831 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 04:22 PM

Like I said, I'm not happy about it either, but the "I'm done with this team" stuff is over the top.  Maybe there's something about Jarnkrok that we don't know that could hold him back, or he threatened to go back to Sweden like Malik mentioned (of course, it's malilk so who knows how accurate that is).  It looks bad right now though.




#2490598 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 03:38 PM

One rumor has a Nashville writer saying it's Eaves and Jarnkrok.

 

That would piss me off.




#2490543 Legwand to Detroit for Eaves, Jarnkrok + cond 3rd/2nd

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 03:23 PM

WAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!  No TRADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!  LEGWAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

The crying around here is out of hand.  No other good centers were moved, as long as they didn't give up too much (conditional picks) this is a good move.




#2489997 Trade deadline fast approaching - who should we target?

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 11:31 AM

would rather have Legwand.

 

If they could get him for a 3rd rounder or something, yes.  A good prospect?  Nope.




#2489950 Official 2014 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

Posted by DickieDunn on 05 March 2014 - 10:27 AM

Holland is in a tough situation.  If he gets the OK form upstairs to sell off, he's going to piss off a big chunk of the fan base and he's probably not going to get much for the guy's he'd be trading.  With all the injuries, they're in a tough spot unless Datsuik is going to come back soon, so not making a trade will compromise their chances of making the playoffs.  At the same time, trading assets for a guy who might not be here next year just to make the playoffs is counterproductive to the stated plan of using the draft to rebuild on the fly, and adding a rental doesn't guarantee anything.  It doesn't matter what he does unless he can get in on Kesler or another good player who isn't a rental, it's not going to be a great option.