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#2565603 Franzen on IR

Posted by DickieDunn on 22 January 2015 - 05:15 PM

I don't know that he'll come back from this one.  He very well could finish his career on IR.

Is that an assessment you've seen somewhere?  I haven't really heard anything about his injury since it happened, but I didn't know know it was anything that serious. 

Just bases on personal experience with concussions and what has happened with other players. I'm not saying he wontbor can't come back, but there's no guarantee.

#2565422 Petry next Oiler to be shopped - FTLOG Kenny, get it done!

Posted by DickieDunn on 21 January 2015 - 12:43 PM

I don't think that package would get anyone better than what the Wings have now.  Nastasiuk, or a similar prospect, simply doesn't have much value, neither does Kindl.  Ouellet has some, but not as much as a lot of fans think, and the pick depends on which round.  A lot of sub-par to decent pieces generally doesn't get you a higher end piece.


With the number of players the Wings have on the roster signed longer term or they plan on keeping, plus the 4 prospects who look like they have a good chance of being NHL players, their best bet is to trade Smith or Dekeyser, plus a D prospect, and a draft pick if they trade for a top 4 D who's going to be around for awhile.

#2564852 Petry next Oiler to be shopped - FTLOG Kenny, get it done!

Posted by DickieDunn on 20 January 2015 - 11:17 AM

For those who think that Petry being the best D in Edmonton means a damn thing, please remember that Quincey was a top pair D on an LA team that was better than the Oilers are now, and was the Avs top D the next year.  Being the best of crap doesn't mean you're not crap, it just means you're less smelly crap.

#2564850 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by DickieDunn on 20 January 2015 - 11:13 AM

Smith is still only 25, which is young by NHL defense standards.  He has talent, he's improving, he should continue to improve.  As it is, he's a decent 2nd pairing D right now, and is on the 3rd pair more because of how Babcock wants the other pairings to shake out than how he's playing.


If they can move Smith as part of a package to get a legit improvement, the Wings should do it.  The players like that who are available are few and far between, though.  Yandle.  Myers maybe.  Definitely not Petry.  

#2564809 Jimmy Howard.......All-Star!

Posted by DickieDunn on 19 January 2015 - 11:27 PM

Sorry if I misunderstood the above comment ... it seemed like you wanted Kenny to get working on a Howie deal tomorrow.  

no, what I was talking about was a couple years from now when Howie still has years left on his $5 mil deal

You weren't very clear on that

#2564742 Are the Wings a Contender?

Posted by DickieDunn on 19 January 2015 - 01:57 PM

He's not garbage.  Defensemen tend to develop slower, though, and he very well could top out as a 2nd pair D which is fine for when he was taken.  The 4 27th overall picks beore the Wings took Smith, 2 of them barely played, Tambelinni played 242 NHL games and is in Europe now, and Jeff Schultz has spent most of the last 2 years in the AHL.  The 3 drafts after Smith was taken, Carlson is the only NHL player taken at 27.

#2564704 Jimmy Howard.......All-Star!

Posted by DickieDunn on 19 January 2015 - 01:18 AM

I just looked up some goalie retirement ages. Seems most were around 37-39 years old (of course some are older, but I suspect that isn't the norm)


So a couple points here.

(DISLAIMER: These numbers are just guesses based on league patterns. I understand that it may not actually play out this way. The points remain the same.)


1. Jimmy turn 31 in a couple months. I'd say Howie has about 6,7, maybe 8 seasons left in his career. Of those years, maybe 3-4 are still good production years, with declining production after that.

     -We could keep him until he retires, which would almost certainly mean mrazek gets moved (and yeah we would probably get a good package back for him).


2. Mrazek turns 23 next month. That gives him maybe 14-16 years left in a normal career, with perhaps 11 give or take in the pre-decline years (yeah I made that up, pre-decline years aren't an official league stat track by professionals trackers. go ahead throw a fit about).

     -We could keep mrazek and trade Howie

        -Howie's trade value is never going to be higher than it is right now. With each passing year his value will decline exponentially

     -Peak production years are usually 25-28 or maybe 24-29.

        -I'd presonally like to have him ready to compete for cups at 24-25 with a longer prime window to compete for cups, instead of getting his feet under him          playing his first full season as a starter or worse splitting time (or even worse backing up) at 25


Z & Pav were both playing full seasons with the wings when they were 22-23 years old, held their own while getting used to the NHL, and then their production really picked up a few years later right on track.


So I guess the question is,


Is 6-8 more seasons of Howie (who isn't going to get any better and doesn't have the intangibles) worth losing 14-16 seasons of Mrazek?

Or should we get mrazek going soon, get a good 11-12 seasons out of him, and lose the tail end (6-8) seasons of Howie?



Mrazek will sign a RFA deal, when Howard's contract is up they'll keep whichever is the best at that point.  There is zero reason to trade either.  I don't get why you seem to think it's an either/or proposition.

#2564703 1/18 GDT : Sabres 4 at Red Wings 6 (Z w/Hat Trick)

Posted by DickieDunn on 19 January 2015 - 01:14 AM

Can we all admit that there's a huge jump from the AHL to the NHL, that scoring a ton in the AHL doesn't mean a guy will score int he NHL, and sendPulinnen back down to learn how to do more than try to fire a slapper every time he touches the puck in the offensive zone?  Kid needs to settle the @#$& down instead of trying to shoot the puck through the goalie's chest every time.

#2563911 Nashville has yet to lose 2 games in a row this season

Posted by DickieDunn on 17 January 2015 - 04:27 PM

Adams is a joke of an award. It doesn't go to the best coach, it goes to the coach of the team that exceeds expectations the most.

#2563884 "Subtle Interference"

Posted by DickieDunn on 17 January 2015 - 11:43 AM


#2563850 "Subtle Interference"

Posted by DickieDunn on 16 January 2015 - 11:29 PM

I'm naming my fantasy hockey team subtle interference next year

#2563733 Could the Wings be better off trading Pav & Hank for draft picks?

Posted by DickieDunn on 16 January 2015 - 03:07 AM

I was about to start a thread to say:


1. The team looks so much better without Franzen on the ice!

2. With Mrazek looking ready maybe Howard could land us some much needed assets?


I love Howard, don't get me wrong but we can't make Mrazek wait until Howard done and we can't carry them both! Howie's stock would be really high right now and would certainly bring in some good rewards.


Who cares about what they did with Franzen... pay him to be lazy and eat bags of dry stalks in the Press box rather than on the ice


Yes, they can make Mrazek wait, and yes they can carry them both.  Besides that, Mrazek is far from proven at the NHL level.  For those of you who think he's can't miss, Jim Carey (not the actor) http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=13060 and Blaine Lacher http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=2889, along with several more flash in the pan players say hello.

#2562546 Randy Carlyle relieved of his duties by Leafs

Posted by DickieDunn on 11 January 2015 - 09:01 PM

How do you prove that? Please do show some evidence that would prove Toronto only loves Canadian players, would love to see that conclusion.
Also bringing Don Cherry is irrelvant on a countries feelings. He dones't represent me, or any other Canadian. In fact 90% of Canadians can't stand him and the only reason he still has a job is because of CBC.

I didn't say they only love Canadian players or love all Canadian players.  I said they don't like Kessel largely because he's not a Canadian.  I don't know how you want me to prove it.  It's a theory.  But you have no way of proving that it doesn't factor into the media's thinking at all.    

They don't like Kessel because he comes off as a lazy arrogant prick, not because he's American.

#2562456 McGratton on waivers

Posted by DickieDunn on 11 January 2015 - 09:58 AM

I knew a guy who played in the AHL and a few games in the NHL, and now he is in his early 30's and suffers from concussion related issues. He said that he was put into a position where he felt (at the AHL level) that he had to fight or he would lose his job, nobody should have to feel that way. Now, so many year later the guy is paying the price. Fighting on occasion to protect a person, I can live with that. Fighting day in, day out, to me is just plain stupid.

This is the main reason for me why enforcers don't belong to the game. How can you enjoy a staged fight if you know the storys of Boogard and our very own Probert ? If a fight sparks from the heat of the moment, fine, let them go. But those barenuckle fights are just to dangerous to do them night in and night out. And I don't want players on the ice forced to do them.

It's their choice though. I don't like meatheads fighting just to fight, but regardless of what the lawsuits claim, they know damn well what the risks are and choose to do it anyway.

#2562384 1/10 GDT : Red Wings 1 at Capitals 3

Posted by DickieDunn on 10 January 2015 - 08:24 PM

new drinking game.  every time Ozzie says very, you drink.  the last one to not die of alcohol poisoning wins.