Your fourth line needs to be cheap, and defensively responsible enough that if they get caught out against the oppositions first line its not automatically a goal. Which were on the road half the time so its not like we have the luxury of full time last change.
bringing in all our rookies at one time there will be rookie mistakes, and even if they score all those goals they're going to price themselves out of the organization then we'll be back to where we started.
Think this through. Drew Miller may not make our fourth line"dangerous," but there's a reason these kind of guys are on every NHL team in the league.
I agree with Bill B on this topic. You need offensive contribution from your 4th line. If they are not contributing offensively, they should go. I would rather the 4th line be full of young, low cap-hit guys who can potentially contribute offensively than so called "defensive specialists." There are guys who can be responsible defensively and also be able to score on a breakaway. That can be the difference between winning and losing. Miller blew a break away in Game 7 against Tampa. AA can score and should be up here replacing one of these guys who don't even have a goal at this point in the season
A dangerous 4th line offensively can create mismatch nightmares for opposing coaches. We have an abundance of forwards. We are a low scoring team (right now). We need a more even offensive punch from our4 lines.
Aa scored on goal here, and if he's down in grand rapids being leaned on to be one of the main guys, he's going to develop into more than just a fast fourth liner.
We have helm on our fourth line right now, he's had three or four breakaways in the last two games, but he can't score on em.
Do you want athanasiou to become helm, or do you want to let his hands develop along with his feet.
I'm a huge aa supporter, most know this.
But if he turns out to be Darren helm 2.0 I'm gonna be disappointed. And so should you.
Don't forget Abby. That cradle-to-grave contract indicates the team believes he is essential to the team's future success.
I mean, he kind of is.
Last year when we were on a tear without datsyuk and then when abs went down the team looked deflated. He's more vital to the success of the team than most would ever give him credit for. That and he's going to be expected to bridge the gap between the greatness of the legends with the kids. Which is important.
Yah, if you dont like someone else's opinion, then it's trolling. I get your game. Instead of debating with facts and reason, just use insults and call people trolls. Real fun.
Ferraro had value. We let him go for nothing. That's not good player management.
at best we would get a 7th round pick for him, which there's no way to know if anyone would even have paid that. I'm not sure who all put in a bid for him, but Boston got him and its not like they're the last place team.(the lowest ranked team to put in the claim gets the player.)
So put yourself in that situation.
Would you rather have a 7th round pick(that would probably be a conditional pick based on whether or not he stays in the lineup) or take the chance that he'll clear waivers and you can keep him in the system.
MAYBE a 7th round pick, or the chance to keep the player you invested a 2nd round pick/and years of development in. It could be argued that Not trying to keep him in your system would be worse asset management. And losing a player with an actual chance of being part of the teams future would DEFINITELY be worse asset management.
And yeah, he was almost a 1st round pick in 2009, Would you trade anything for Scott Glennie? After all, he actually was a first round pick in 2009(8th overall which is close to a top 5 pick) and Boston definitely wouldn't have given us anything for him, even just *future considerations* (which are essentially worthless now anyway) like you said we're division rivals, they wouldn't trade with us.
And having a different opinion is fine but don't pretend that you use any kind of facts or reason that correlate your opinions. And debating with someone who has already made their mind up that they're right no matter what anyone else says isn't really a debate. Its more like talking to a wall.
Don't try to reason with people. Pulkks is providing scoring depth this team desperately needs yet he gets blamed for all that's wrong with this team. How about blaming players like Abdelkader or Kronwall who are top minute players who look between mediocre and hot garbage instead of a rookie?
I haven't seen anyone blame him for a loss, the worst I've seen is people criticizing him when he can't hit the net, or get frustrated when he decides to tee his shot up and most of the time those guys aren't averse to eating a healthy helping of crow.
Sometimes its hard watching all our smaller wingers get pushed around all game, get relegated to the corners or boards and end up losing the battles. Then they(Nyquist/Tatar) will go on an amazing run where it looks like no one can touch them. Pulkkinen brings a different dimension than then, as he is almost primarily there to shoot. But he isn't quick enough to create his own separation, so most of his shots end up as non threats.
I think pulks could turn into an awesome third line winger/pp specialist and as long as he understands thats all he is (even though he gets moved up and down the roster) and doesn't go searching for top 6 money, he should be a good depth scorer for us.
As for Kronwall, he'll be alright, hes had a revolving door of partners in smith, e, and green. Him and green look better together every game, as long as green can stay healthy and blash doesn't decide to give him another partner they'll start to gel.
Wasn't Nic Lidstrom -5 one year?
I think we're starting to see the team click, and its only going to get better as they get more experience with system.
This forum is pretty damn bi- polar though, when we lose the Sky's falling, when we win all the boo birds seem to disappear.
I thought Richards was one of our better forwards. He has the ability to make plays in tight, something we need more of
Blash's lines make no sense to me. All our grit is on the 4th line except Abby and Helm>Abby right now. I bet inserting him up the lineup would make a big difference in our energy
What bothered me was when dylark went to the dressing room, he plugged Glendenning into his spot, when he could've moved helm up.
The only reasoning I could think for this would be if he were worried about helm getting hurt, but even then it doesn't make much sense.
But richards seemed to play well enough for just coming back from the injury..
I wish he'd start putting up some more ppoints though.
Grand rapids highlights Didn't see the mantha fight in there though. Most of the focus was on athanasious return and Jurcos conditioning assignment, hell be there for A MAXIMUM. OF TWO WEEKS, which he made sure to make clear to the reporters for some reason.