I will miss this one due to several friends taking me to the B-Sens game tonight to celebrate my birthday. I'll he 43 tomorrow, so here's hoping the boys fire 43 shots on goal and bury a bunch of them, breaking out of the slump in a big way.
If there is wifi in the arena I will hop on during intermissions.
The thing is Franzen brings it upon himself. He goes out there and runs his d****** all game long. You don't see dat or z get near the abuse or challenges to fight that Franzen dies because they keep their mouths shut and play.
Datsyuk and zetterberg are two of the most respected players in the league.
Z still gets ran a lot, datsyuk barely ever does because everyone respects him.
And if you go straight for his body, hell duck you, if you go for the puck hell embarass you.
And datsyuk literally goes out of his ways to play a clean game.
If he's backchecking and ends up hooking someone instead of lifting their stick hell apologize...
I get the point you're trying to make, but comparing them is apples to oranges.
I agree with a couple of your points. Largely that Mantha is untouchable, and the previously mentioned trade packages are overkill. But I disagree with a couple of things.
1) When has Hall every been considered "uncoachable" and who made the claim? I've never heard that. As far as I knew, he was the only one of their young kids who didn't have an attitude problem. I've heard that about Yakupov, RNH, and Eberle (to a lesser extent), but not Hall.
add in jurco/nyquist, remove kindl with smith/dekeyser and replace andy with helm and that might be enough.
I still don't think that'd get him.
I was joking.
But I think if they're going to actually trade him it'll either be for way too Much, or he really is uncoachable and they trade him for the highest offer.
I'm going to get my nachos on the way home, but I don't know if I can drink so many beers.
This weekend was rough.
I drank enough on Friday, to not remember what I did Saturday morning.
And I repeated that Saturday night Sunday morning.
But I'll give it my all.
My worry is that Holland sees this year's team as a contender, and is going to try to land a high-end defender by overpaying. Generally, it's a good idea if you've got a shot at the cup. If that means one of two of the defensive prospects, then sure... but I hope he steers clear of the forwards for the most part. I haven't watched as much of the Griffins as I would have liked this season, but I've heard/seen tons of people raving about AA. To be honest, I'm more worried about moving someone like Tatar, Jurco or Mantha. I really want those wingers to stick around.
The thing is, I do think ONE of our prospect centers should be made available for the right deal. I'm not saying they should just move one for a rental, and I definitely don't think Myers is the right deal. The thing is, Sheahan has exceeded my expectations in terms of the offensive potential he's shown this season. If we've got Sheahan, Larkin and AA as potential top 6 centers, combined with the remaining years of Z, Weiss and perhaps Helm... I would be fine with moving one for a significant upgrade on the blueline. When you look at the whole picture and factor in the years of overlap with the vets and younger players, I actually think we could be in good shape up the middle.
Yea, we definitely could be...
But if larkin stays at um for lets say three years, Pavels contract will then be up.
Helms health is a concern, as is Weiss', yeah we have some prospects looking good for the future but I don't expect them to pan out as much as our current crop of kids did.
Not because I don'thave faith in the org. Just that id rather have more chances at one of them surpassing expectations.
Aa has the skill and speed to be great, I've been super high on him for awhile now, actually found lgw looking for people talking about him.
Yeah we have great depth now at c, but Pavel and z are getting up there, and id love to remain deep there in the future.
Ya I wouldn't give up those guys but the wings do have a lot of forwards coming up and from what I read a while back buffalo was stacked on defense in there prospect system
id do something like pulkkinen athanasiou a 2016 1st for myers ... Think that's more than fair considering he's underachieving and has 5+ longterm ... Even throw in Andersson for the fun of it
And we still have mantha larkin bertuzzi natasiuk janmark frk and a few others with some potential
And of course Tatar nyquist sheahan jurco glendening for the future
And I don't know our cap space so we might have to include kindl somehow in that deal or with someone else
I wouldn't give up athanasiou.
Dudes a beast and could potentially be a top 6 center, which as you know, we are going to need.
I know you have to give to get, but I just don't think its worth it.
Myers is good