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#2535101 Lines Thread

Posted by nawein on 28 August 2014 - 03:25 PM

I'm not okay with Abby there either. He's a 4th liner, 3rd at best. But no, Jurco isn't ready. And yes, Jurco put up a 34 point pace against much lesser competition vs abbys 33 point pace against top line competition. CLEARLY this means Jurco should be there. What was I thinking? Excuse my ignorance.

And Kip, did you watch the last few games before the olympic break when Gus and Z played together? The chemistry and puck movement was insane. Z and pav like. So why not have two extremely dunamic duos on the ice at the same time? We wouldn't need to grind it out much because we'd always have the puck.

If you want to change the dynamic of the attack, you don't do that by putting one guy thats going to go to the net on each line. You put two on one line. Franzen and Jurco can both play down low. Put them together. Putting Jurco on the top line now could actually kill that line (not to mention the kids confidence) just as much as abby has.


#2535089 Lines Thread

Posted by nawein on 28 August 2014 - 01:03 PM

 
Hmm, that's not bad, although I'd have to say, a bit of a waste having Sheahan at wing. He was good on draws and plays an excellent two way game, which is far more important at C than it is at wing. Plus, he;s got good size. 


Am I the only one that doesn't think Jurco is ready for a top line role yet? I get that he's a better option than Abby but I think he's still not quite ready for that role.

Z-Pav-Gus
Jurco-franzen-tats
Alfie-sheahan-weiss
Abby-helm-miller


#2534649 Lines Thread

Posted by nawein on 20 August 2014 - 06:20 PM

You're right someone was good 10, 15 or 20 years ago so they must still be good now!

Howe can prolly still play let's sign him up.


If they're close in skill level, tie goes to the guy that's proven he can play at that level in the nhl consistently. How is that hard for you to understand? If a young gun is a clearly better hockey player he'll get a bigger role. If you want to watch a tie go to a young player I'd advise watching more oiler games.


#2534646 Lines Thread

Posted by nawein on 20 August 2014 - 06:04 PM

 
Because vets can't go to the minors... and their veterans of the team, they get seniority and thus win ties. It's no longer a tie and rightly so Babs has said certain vets have lost their jobs.
 
No, the point you were trying to make was that Cleary would slot in on the 1st line with Dats and Z over all our other good players... not that Cleary was taking a fourth line spot from Callahan or somebody. It's a completely different point and argument.


Not to mention that they're vets because they've already proven themselves over the course of their careers.


#2534501 Lines Thread

Posted by nawein on 18 August 2014 - 03:23 PM

Well we have Bertuzzi, Callahan, and McKee on the way. Though I wouldn't a few more grinders than just just those 3.


Why does it seem like everyone here thinks McKee is going to make it? Have any of you watched him play? He's brutally bad right now.


#2534465 Lines Thread

Posted by nawein on 18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM

Z-Pav-Gus (Euro Triplets? Z-pav is an amazing duo and Z-gus was also)
Franzen-Weiss-Tatar (Remember when Mule and Tats played together last year? It was good.
Alfie-Sheahan-Jurco (2 kids and a goat v2.0)
Miller-Helm-Abdelkader (because it might be the best shut down line we can make)

Kronner-E
DK-Q
Smith-Marchenko/Backman (Hopefully Backman. I see Marchenko topping out at poor mans Brad Stuart and Backman topping out a little worse than Kronner is now.)

The D pairings were hard. Our D sucks.


#2534395 Holland signs 4 year extension with wings **MOD Warning Post 130**

Posted by nawein on 16 August 2014 - 04:30 PM

How did the wings get Stevie y? It wasn't with the 278 overall pick. People are so DMAN short sighted YES THE WINGS TANKED TO GET GOOD. Stop the god damn arrogance and accept it.

Then they continue to draft AND trade AND sign free agents and were able to maintain it. Now they don't trade or sign free agents but still draft so we will see if they can.

It'll be tough for the playoff record the wings are in to happen again but that doesn't matter. What does matter is four cups in the span of 23 years now which can be matched. And I wouldn't surprised to see the kings do that either.


Yes. We tanked to get good. 30 years ago. 2 generations of players ago we were bad. Nobodys denying that. It's that we're still good without having to tank again that's impressive.


#2534339 Kevin Hayes

Posted by nawein on 15 August 2014 - 07:06 PM

Wait. Chicago gets a second for failing to sign one of it's draft picks, and we get nothing for having half of our front office stolen?


#2534190 Predictions for the DRW 2014-15 Season!

Posted by nawein on 13 August 2014 - 06:49 PM

 
What star players?


Jiri Hudler.


#2533736 Who is YOUR most under-appreciated/unsung Red Wing?

Posted by nawein on 05 August 2014 - 02:02 PM

Drew Miller currently. The guy is very, very good at what he does.


#2533302 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by nawein on 29 July 2014 - 02:36 PM

This is an ok deal by Holland. I would have preferred a slightly lower payment, or even better (and more realistic), locking him in for 5 years. 
 
But no, KH is going to write up this contract to expire at the exact time RFA rights expire. OK  :lol:


He has 1 year of RFA after this contract. Which couldn't be better honestly.


#2532958 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by nawein on 24 July 2014 - 01:51 PM

Tatar had a good rookie year. But he's still unproven so I'm not sure why people think he should get his payday now. He'll get a prove it contract and that's what's best for both sides.

As far as people comparing Tats and Pavs rookie years, it honestly means nothing. Peter Mueller had a comparable rookie year to Anze Kopitar, who both had had better years than Patrice Bergeron, and they all had worse years than Dany Heatley. Now two of them are scrubs and 2 are elite forwards. I'm glad Tatar had a good rookie year, now he has to prove he can continue to do that and improve.


#2531441 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by nawein on 11 July 2014 - 12:43 AM

not the point. the fact that holland would even suggest he should get a NTC, let alone actually give him one, just shows how delusional he is


It's pointless. The NTC means nothing. We weren't going to trade him anyways. If he plays bad nobody would take him, if he plays well that's what we want so we're not going to trade him. Also I don't get why everyone is so surprised. We all knew last year that this was coming.


#2530962 Article on FAs and Red Wings

Posted by nawein on 10 July 2014 - 06:05 AM

I feel bad saying this, but I don't just don't the gameplan is getting a cup next year. They're going to do retool till holland retires


You can't honestly believe that.

11-12 Roster.

Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Franzen
Holmstrom - Gone
Bertuzzi - Gone
Cleary - Gone/could be in GR
Filppula - Gone
Hudler - Gone
Helm
Miller
Abdelkader
Emmerton - Gone
Mursak - Gone

Lidstrom - Gone
Kronwall
White - Gone
Stuart - Gone
Kindl
Ericsson

These are guys that played 20 or more games for us.

9 guys still on the starting roster that we're here 3 years ago. Average age of guys that are gone = 33.5

Current probable starting roster (Assuming we sign no more guys)

Zetterberg
Datsyuk
Franzen
Weiss - New
Nyquist - New
Jurco - New
Tatar - New
Sheahan - New
Glendening - New
Andersson - New
Miller
Abdelkader
Helm

Kronwall
Ericsson
Dekeyser - New
Quincey - New
Kindl
Lashoff - New
Smith - New

Average age of guys that replaced to old guys = 24.6. A little under 9 years younger than the guys that left and gets younger if we move Kindl and bring up Ouellet or Marchenko.

We're not retooling. We're rebuilding and transferring to a younger core without selling our current core so we're still competitive. Rebuilds don't happen overnight and they're not always 100 successful anyways. Why can't people see that we're an extremely successful team for one that's rebuilding. Would a couple high picks help? Of course. Would trading stars for picks help? Of course. But what other team has rebuilt while remaining competitive? Not many. We're doing it. Be thankful we're not the Oilers.


#2530493 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by nawein on 07 July 2014 - 08:06 PM

I'm not really advocating tanking, but it worked pretty well for Pittsburgh and Chicago. The structure of the league just lends better to a compete rebuild than getting stuck in mediocrity. The Calgary Flames are the perfect example.


There a difference between tanking, and being bad. Pittsburgh and Chicago were bad. We're not a bad hockey team, we're just not a great hockey team. And we're not going to tank the season so I don't know why this is even a discussion.