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#2533302 Tatar Signs 3 Year Deal $2.75 mill AAV

Posted by nawein on 29 July 2014 - 02:36 PM

This is an ok deal by Holland. I would have preferred a slightly lower payment, or even better (and more realistic), locking him in for 5 years. 
But no, KH is going to write up this contract to expire at the exact time RFA rights expire. OK  :lol:

He has 1 year of RFA after this contract. Which couldn't be better honestly.

#2532958 Dekeyser/Tatar status update

Posted by nawein on 24 July 2014 - 01:51 PM

Tatar had a good rookie year. But he's still unproven so I'm not sure why people think he should get his payday now. He'll get a prove it contract and that's what's best for both sides.

As far as people comparing Tats and Pavs rookie years, it honestly means nothing. Peter Mueller had a comparable rookie year to Anze Kopitar, who both had had better years than Patrice Bergeron, and they all had worse years than Dany Heatley. Now two of them are scrubs and 2 are elite forwards. I'm glad Tatar had a good rookie year, now he has to prove he can continue to do that and improve.

#2531441 Wings re-sign Cleary $1.5 mill + $1mill in game bonuses

Posted by nawein on 11 July 2014 - 12:43 AM

not the point. the fact that holland would even suggest he should get a NTC, let alone actually give him one, just shows how delusional he is

It's pointless. The NTC means nothing. We weren't going to trade him anyways. If he plays bad nobody would take him, if he plays well that's what we want so we're not going to trade him. Also I don't get why everyone is so surprised. We all knew last year that this was coming.

#2530962 Article on FAs and Red Wings

Posted by nawein on 10 July 2014 - 06:05 AM

I feel bad saying this, but I don't just don't the gameplan is getting a cup next year. They're going to do retool till holland retires

You can't honestly believe that.

11-12 Roster.

Holmstrom - Gone
Bertuzzi - Gone
Cleary - Gone/could be in GR
Filppula - Gone
Hudler - Gone
Emmerton - Gone
Mursak - Gone

Lidstrom - Gone
White - Gone
Stuart - Gone

These are guys that played 20 or more games for us.

9 guys still on the starting roster that we're here 3 years ago. Average age of guys that are gone = 33.5

Current probable starting roster (Assuming we sign no more guys)

Weiss - New
Nyquist - New
Jurco - New
Tatar - New
Sheahan - New
Glendening - New
Andersson - New

Dekeyser - New
Quincey - New
Lashoff - New
Smith - New

Average age of guys that replaced to old guys = 24.6. A little under 9 years younger than the guys that left and gets younger if we move Kindl and bring up Ouellet or Marchenko.

We're not retooling. We're rebuilding and transferring to a younger core without selling our current core so we're still competitive. Rebuilds don't happen overnight and they're not always 100 successful anyways. Why can't people see that we're an extremely successful team for one that's rebuilding. Would a couple high picks help? Of course. Would trading stars for picks help? Of course. But what other team has rebuilt while remaining competitive? Not many. We're doing it. Be thankful we're not the Oilers.

#2530493 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by nawein on 07 July 2014 - 08:06 PM

I'm not really advocating tanking, but it worked pretty well for Pittsburgh and Chicago. The structure of the league just lends better to a compete rebuild than getting stuck in mediocrity. The Calgary Flames are the perfect example.

There a difference between tanking, and being bad. Pittsburgh and Chicago were bad. We're not a bad hockey team, we're just not a great hockey team. And we're not going to tank the season so I don't know why this is even a discussion.

#2530410 Next Seasons Needs/Team Future

Posted by nawein on 07 July 2014 - 12:58 PM

Or he could build a solid young core capable of winning Stanley Cups in the future while still making the playoffs and being competitive every year. Which sounds a lot harder than either of your extremes. Which he's currently and has been doing for the last few years.

#2530243 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by nawein on 06 July 2014 - 12:56 PM

I think it's very important that this kid gets handed nothing. He needs to earn his spot. I think he needs to start on the 3rd line in GR and prove he can be in the top 6. Then prove he is capable of getting a call up. When he gets called up, he needs to start on the fourth line. The kid has been a hot shot his whole life and although I think he has a great attitude so far, I don't want him handed a spot and turn into a loafing Franzen that is good only when he wants to be.

I agree he shouldn't be handed anything. BUT. I think he's already proven he should be top 6 in the AHL. He's not a fourth liner and would be woefully ineffective in that role. He's a scorer, let him score. I get the "overcoming all obstacle makes you better" and stuff but don't set him up to fail and hope he turns out in his favor. He shouldn't be handed anything but he should be put in a position to succeed.

#2530163 What's best for Mantha?

Posted by nawein on 05 July 2014 - 08:45 PM

I think he should probably play the whole year in GR. Give him a year to round out his defensive game, learn to play against men, and bulk up a bit more. The guy's a stud but he still has work to do.

#2530149 2014 Offseason League Signings and Trades

Posted by nawein on 05 July 2014 - 07:12 PM

So him being a 48 point guy on a worse team is a 4th center. But Franzen who averages 49 points is top 6 and injury prone Weiss is a 2c who also is 48 points a season right?

Nice logic LOL

I'm pretty sure 99% of people on this board would use him as a 2C. He was saying he'd be a 4th liner here because at the end of last season, when we got healthier, that's where Babs used him and that's where he'd use him again.

#2529919 2014 draft thoughts.

Posted by nawein on 03 July 2014 - 11:30 PM

My not-so-dark horse pick for the first overall pick next year: Ottawa Senators.

#2529476 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by nawein on 02 July 2014 - 12:49 PM


You realize that's a link to the word fun right?

#2529467 TANK IT! 2014-2015 Season

Posted by nawein on 02 July 2014 - 12:41 PM

Give me a break. The only reason we even squeezed into the playoffs is because we were in a weak eastern conference. If we had been in the west, we would have been right down there with the Oilers (who are a much funner team to watch).

Funner is not a word. And I'll take making the playoffs over being more fun to watch any day.

#2528966 Quincey re-signed by DET. 2 yr s $4.25 mill AAV

Posted by nawein on 01 July 2014 - 06:48 PM

Actually, we'll probably be a middle of the pack team again. Woohoo exciting.

#2527542 UFA day looking up

Posted by nawein on 01 July 2014 - 08:34 AM

Wings out on Niskanen. http://www.freep.com...RTS05/307010072
Welcome to Detroit Boyle. Glad to see Holland is helping us get younger and faster. 

St. James, and only St. James has been saying that the whole time.

#2527438 Ehrhoff or Niskanen

Posted by nawein on 30 June 2014 - 10:04 PM