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In Topic: Are the wings underrated?

Yesterday, 07:32 AM


Last season was by far one of the weirdest seasons I've seen. Not sure I can really draw any conclusions from it. The year before we took the Hawks deep in an early round. I don't think that's playing over our heads. They won a series they were predicted to win. We put up a helluva fight against a rival. Tends to happen.


The injuries were unpredictable and ridiculous. The beginning of the season was bad puck luck and just the entire team in one big slump. I actually think the injuries helped in a sense, bc the called up kids sparked the rest of the team.


I think this team really is underrated in a sense. We have some very good players at all positions, and very good young players at all positions. In the end I think we're probably middle of the pack come playoffs if last seasons bad fortunes don't repeat themselves.


I don't think you can underrate potential. I think this team has potential, but they are rated where they should be - lower than most Wings fans would like or expect.


We do have some solid youngsters, but there are big question marks about how they match up with the rest of the league and, if you were building a 'dream team' (even in a salary capped scenario), there are a lot of guys who would get replaced on all four lines... The Wings aren't in a position where they can bring up a bunch of rookies without making big changes, either. Jurco is the only one who doesn't need to clear waivers who has more than a couple games of NHL experience. The fact that some of those 'prospects' will clear waivers through 29 other teams, including Buffalo, the Isles, Edmonton, Calgary, etc. means we're not skating 20 'A' players. Other 'holes' have been identified in numerous posts on these boards - Kindl, Quincy, Cleary, etc.


To me, the telling series was Boston last year. Yes, we were fighting through a number of injuries, but they skated circles. Most of that team playoff team is skating full time this year and that's expecting a lot of improvement by a lot of players and in a lot of areas to expect a completely different result. I do still believe, as others have said, if we can stay relatively healthy, a couple young guys continue to develop, and we catch a couple breaks, we have a shot at outperforming the predictions and keeping the streak alive, but I don't think that makes us underrated by any stretch.

In Topic: We're Down One Goose

29 September 2014 - 09:50 AM

So does anyone know how this injury actually happened?  I know it was knee on knee, but was it malicious or anything?  Remember that year Orpik took out Franzen's knee?


I'm interested to know more details as well. I haven't even heard who he collided with...

In Topic: Selanne would still play if Boudreau wasn't Ducks coach

24 September 2014 - 04:10 PM

Maroon did out produce Selanne during the regular season.  And that was with less even strength AND PP time.  So it's not like Boudreau was basing the decision (wrong as it may have been in the end) on nothing.  He was basing off of current levels of production. 


At even strength, I can agree with you, but Maroon's 4 PPPs in the regular season was half of what Selanne put up. He did have less total minutes, but not 50%...


I guess the bottom line is that Boudreau went into the playoffs with a known roster and he knows the individual strengths of the players. He used Selanne basically as a power play specialist all season long and he really wasn't horrible given the ice time he was given... I'm not saying he played like he did as a youngster, he didn't. But he was a reasonable 3rd or 4th line player and power play guy. For the playoffs, Anaheim shifted to Maroon (and Smith-Pelly, like you point out) and that opens up the criticism which Selanne leveled -  Boudreau went with 'unknowns' instead of him.


As a competitive player, I can see why Selanne was frustrated.

In Topic: Selanne would still play if Boudreau wasn't Ducks coach

24 September 2014 - 01:56 PM


Understood, but no coach is going to give you playoff icetime without considering regular season production.  Like any other intelligent coach, Boudreau's going to look at how you've performed all year long and allot your playing time based on that.  Giving Selanne icetime based on what he used to do, is a lot like giving Dan Cleary 53 games based on the past.  Selanne had done very little (or less than others), with more opportunity, last season.  If he wanted more playing time in the playoffs he should have produced more during the season. 


He was benched BECAUSE of ineffective play, which is the way it's supposed to go.  He seems to be arguing that he should have been given ice time DESPITE ineffective play.  I would understand if he was producing well and got his icetime cut.  But he wasn't.  So I don't know why he's bitching. 


I understand your point, but then where did Pat Maroon get PP ice time in the playoffs? He didn't perform during the regular season nor did he perform during the playoffs. If Selanne is going to be the bar of ineffective play, Maroon was below it all season. I understand Maroon's 26. I understand Maroon's pretty much the only 'tough' player on their roster. But you have to call a spade a spade and in the most important game of the season, I'd take Selanne over Maroon 100% of the time whether you want to base it on 13-14 or whenever. I'm certainly not going to argue that I'm an 'intelligent coach', but PIM over potential scoring in a non-fantasy elimination game doesn't seem that 'intelligent'...

In Topic: Who should get cut/traded by game 1 of the season?

24 September 2014 - 11:09 AM

This question boils down to who can and will clear waivers... [Don't forget it works both ways and they need to be able to clear re-entry waivers as well]


22 of the 23-man roster listed by capgeek have to clear waivers to get assigned to GR. Callahan, Nestrasil, and Ferraro all also have to clear waivers to get sent down this year (I'm not sure if they would be subject to re-entry waivers if they get brought up this year). Jurco is the only 'regular' from last season who can get sent down without first clearing waivers.


I think taking that into consideration, the Wings are going to face some difficult decisions this season without making some trades or accepting some 'losses' to the waiver wire.


I had orginally been hopeful that Mantha would stick out of camp, but with the injury and the roster the way it is, I don't think there are going to be any 'surprises'.