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#2557471 slava voynov suspended after domestic violence arrest

Posted by kliq on 17 December 2014 - 09:12 PM

Let's compare Varlamov then :)


Okay. I couldn't remember the Varlamov situation to well, so I looked it up. What I read on CBC.ca is the following (link posted below):


"Prosecutors said Friday that they are dropping a domestic violence case against Colorado Avalanche goalie Semyon Varlamov because they have new information leading them to believe they couldn't win a conviction."


In the case of Voynov, he was actually charged with a felony count of domestic violence. Similar accusations as Varlamov, but different assessment from law enforcement.


Either way, I am curious what you are trying to say here:


Are you saying that Varlamov should have faced harsher penalty when he was initially put into police custody? Or are you saying that the NHL is acting to harsh with Voynov?


If you worked with the NHL, what would you do?


Personally I feel that when these types of accusations happen, it puts the NHL in a very tough situation. If I were Bettman, I wouldn't want to make judgements myself, I feel situations like this need to be assessed by people who see these things every day (ie. law enforcement, court system). When you try to become judge, jury, and executioner you will end up in a Goodell situation. I would likely link my disciplinary process to what the law enforcement/court system decide.


So for example, if law enforcement decided not to press charges, I would let him play. You wouldn't want to run into a situation where if someone was falsely accused and the police deemed this, the NHL still suspends. But, if the system deems there is enough evidence to go to court, I would indefinitely suspend him.





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#2557428 slava voynov suspended after domestic violence arrest

Posted by number9 on 17 December 2014 - 12:12 PM

I hope he receives a fair and just ruling under due process of the law. Contrary to some people's view on this forum, Slava Voynov is not an animal, he's a human being just like you or me. Innocent until proven guilty by a court of law.

#2544108 10/23 GDT : Penguins 3 at Red Wings 4 (OT)

Posted by Hockeytown0001 on 23 October 2014 - 10:35 PM


#2542666 slava voynov suspended after domestic violence arrest

Posted by 55fan on 20 October 2014 - 03:40 PM

Keep in mind that I'm speaking as a woman.


Why on earth are these people (athletes) losing their jobs or getting suspended?  They have been accused of crimes.  They have been arrested.  Charges are filed.  Then they go to court. 


Why are they getting suspended for SUSPICION of a crime?  That's all it is until the person has his day in court.  Until it is proven in court, it is an ALLEGED crime with an ALLEGED victim no matter how great the evidence.


If there is a conviction, they must face the consequences- legally, personally, and professionally.  If there is jail time, they can be suspended as they will not be able to participate.  In that case, their off-ice activities effect their ability to fulfill their contract and suspension makes sense.  Otherwise, what they do off the ice (or field, depending on the sport) has nothing to do with their fulfilling their contract to play their game.


Suspending before the facts are in is nothing but public relations posturing and political correct nonsense.


Media attention and suspensions puts the spotlight on a family that is already dealing with issues.  Is it really fair to them to aggravate what may very well be a dangerous, or at least tense, situation?  It also deals a financial blow to the family.  Granted, they probably make a lot of money and can afford suspensions, but in cases such as Rice, is it fair to his wife to remove her income before he goes to court?  She married an NFL player with a big salary and now he's unemployed. 


As a female, I find it appalling that the league steps into the situation before they have any idea what is actually going on.  It sends the message that women can't take care of themselves.  Let the family sort things out on their own.  Let them get counseling for whatever issues led to the dispute.  Let them have their lawyer get them through the legal issues.  Leave them alone to sort through the aftermath.  Adding the drama of the league stepping in only adds to the problems of the family, not just the player.


I'm not saying the domestic violence should be condoned or that the league should look the other way.  I'm just saying that they should stay out of things until the accusations are sorted through and they have facts to deal with.  Then they can enforce their rules knowing that they are doing the right thing.


I just feel bad for the wives and children.  They have enough to deal with without all the rest of the world stepping in and trying to punish their man in the name of political correctness to assuage the talking heads in the media in addition to the legal and personal issues that they are already facing.

#2533478 Paul McCartney and the Red Wings

Posted by arag on 01 August 2014 - 06:54 PM

Speaking of songs and the Wings, every time I hear comfortably numb I think of Franzen, thanks to you GMR, thanks to you.

Watching Franzen play makes me want to sing " Hey You." It is amazing how every word of that song relates to Franzen.
Sorry Mr. McCartney for going off topic. Rock n roll brings out lots of emotions.
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#2523103 17 Years Ago Today

Posted by vladdy16 on 07 June 2014 - 10:08 AM

We were living this:




Thanks, Vladinator!  Miss you....

#2523026 Rutherford to Pens as GM....

Posted by frankgrimes on 06 June 2014 - 01:32 PM

Wow Pittsburgh that was incredible classless and also LOL at going from Shero to Rutherford a guy who hasn't done anything for the Hurricanes by not having a bad roster on paper.


Also they should have fired Bylsma the day Shero was fired so he would have been able to look at other offeers, what a joke that organization has become *lol*

#2434988 Bettman getting a raise (again) 8 - 8,3 million in 2012 - 2013

Posted by Echolalia on 04 September 2013 - 03:33 PM

Because NHL profits as a whole are steadily increasing. Bettman makes relatively little compared to other sports commissioners.

#2434995 Bettman getting a raise (again) 8 - 8,3 million in 2012 - 2013

Posted by Crymson on 04 September 2013 - 04:07 PM

Because NHL profits as a whole are steadily increasing. Bettman makes relatively little compared to other sports commissioners.


Exactly. David Stern (NBA) made $20m last season, and Budd Selig (MLB) earned only marginally less than that. Roger Goodell (NFL) took home upward of $11m.

#2520606 Should we pursue Iggy?

Posted by kipwinger on 15 May 2014 - 08:29 AM

Nope, guy's a loser.  I don't want any more washed up losers on our team.  Right now every guy we've got on the roster is a winner...Stanley Cup winners....Calder Cup winners. 


We need more winners.  Not old farts that can't get it done. 

#2520621 Should we pursue Iggy?

Posted by Wings_Dynasty on 15 May 2014 - 09:36 AM

I say no simply because he is a d-bag. If we're going to go after a d-bag, let's go after a d-bag that has more than one dimension and isn't 40 years old. 

#2517250 ECQF - Game 5 - Red Wings at Bruins - 3:00 PM EST

Posted by ShanahanMan on 26 April 2014 - 05:28 PM

Liked hearing from Hank. They asked him to comment about "hey, at least you guys have the kids and the future looks bright, right?"


He responded with, "Not if we're gonna have results like this. Need to regroup". 


Kids blew and everyone knows it. 

#2507648 4/9 GDT - Red Wings 3 @ Pens 4 (SO). Wings clinch playoff spot!

Posted by Nev on 09 April 2014 - 12:40 PM

For all the fear on this board of the Bruins, Neal's elbows scare me far more than Lucic's fists.

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#2504108 Ovechkin and ES

Posted by wings87 on 31 March 2014 - 10:45 AM

To me Ovie is one of the most overrated players in hockey. He's an elite goalie scorer, but as a complete player he's overrated. His defensive game is nonexistent, he never goes and gets the puck himself he just sits in the slot and waits for a pass. You gotta wonder if what's holding him back is just pure laziness.

#2503428 3/29 GDT - Red Wings 4 at Maple Leafs 2

Posted by LeftWinger on 29 March 2014 - 11:02 PM

...ahhhh Toronto, the only place in the world you can go and watch the Leafs fall in the Springtime!